... and there is nothing wrong with a belt if warranted. Overuse it, though, and it loses it's effectiveness.
my daughter is 13 now, the last time I spanked her (I used my hand as I couldn't figure out the right technique for belts like my dad) was when she was in 2nd grade. while that was the last time I did it, it remained on the table and she knew it. She never got to that point where she needed it again. Despite the underlying tone here suggesting it's abuse, it is not. There is a line you can dang sure cross, you just can't let emotion take over when you use it and know when you got the point through.
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