Originally Posted by OstrichSaK
Again, if you had ANY experience owning or managing a business you wouldn't keep making these statements. You guys that keep falling back on 'insurance' as the reason need to educate yourself on how the whole process works. Insurance doesn't run this corporate world. If an insurance company doesn't like the risk of you buying a Corvette do you buy a Prius? C'mon already people!
Insurance doesn't run the corporate world, but a business owner (especially a large entity such as Walgreens-the business in question here) won't be in business long without some form of insurance coverage. Sure, the mom and pop neighborhood stores might be able to run shop, but a big business like Walgreens is going to have extensive coverage, and has a lot of shareholders to answer to. They know that the return on their investment is going to be at jeopardy if they have their employees armed.
Originally Posted by OstrichSaK
By the way, I thought I would add that the overwhelming opinion on this story on the various gun forums is that the neighborhood Rambo was WAY out of line and gives a bad name to gun owners everywhere. Most opinions were more strongly worded but I feel as though this summary says all that needs to be said. It's sad that something like this happens and is what's reported on so people who don't own guns or understand 'gun culture' assume this represents ALL gun owners. If you picture ALL gun owners in this light I can see why people who don't understand want to ban firearms. This is known as being prejudice though and isn't acceptable in any other setting so what makes it acceptable here? This type of guy makes up FAR less than 1% of all gun owners so why assume we're ALL just like this guy and the only way to make the world safe is to make firearms illegal? Seems like a pretty narrow way of looking at a particular subject to me.
I can take the same argument and apply it to why it's not necessary to carry a firearm. "You will rarely find yourself in a life or death situation that requires use of a firearm, perhaps less than 1% unless you're going to the neighborhood crackhouse in search of some merchandise". You have to take ALL situations into consideration, which is what these companies do, and guess what, their legal team has concluded that to minimize risk to life and property, it's best not to have an armed employee.
Originally Posted by OutofDate1980
To be open minded, I guess we should give a definition of a conservative. I think what we are looking for is political definition of conservatism and liberalism, whatever that means, as the US doesn't have parties named Conservative or Liberal as other countries have.
conservative - definition of conservative by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
Favoring traditional views and values; tending to oppose change.
Traditional or restrained in style: a conservative dark suit.
Moderate; cautious: a conservative estimate.
Of or relating to the political philosophy of conservatism.
Belonging to a conservative party, group, or movement.
Of or belonging to the Conservative Party in the United Kingdom or the Progressive Conservative Party in Canada.
Of or adhering to Conservative Judaism.
Tending to conserve; preservative: the conservative use of natural resources.
One favoring traditional views and values.
A supporter of political conservatism.
A member or supporter of the Conservative Party in the United Kingdom or the Progressive Conservative Party in Canada.
A preservative agent or principle.
My response was more facetious than anything
I think we're so quick to label someone liberal, conservative, etc just because we're conditioned by big media that if you have a stance on a certain subject matter, you must have the same view for all things across the board.
On this particular topic, I think it's a little too much to ask employers to allow employees to carry concealed weapons on site. I've seen worker/manager meetings escalate to a point where a concealed weapon amid the tension would yield disastrous results.
I think at the same time, the NRA gun toting types have been agitated to such a fevered pitch by the right that even mentioning restricting them carrying in certain situations has them paranoid about losing rights that were enacted centuries ago under completely different circumstances.
I've worked everywhere from auto assembly lines to state of the art manufacturing facilities to shirt and tie offices. The stress level at these places is enough without worrying if bob in accounting/gas tank assembly/oxide deposition is on edge and considering emptying his firearm in an attempt to go out in a blaze of glory. This no way means I'm hoping to round up all things that kill and maim, and melt them down around a bonfire singing Kumbaya until the cows come home. I just think some people are paranoid from all the rhetoric and need to just dial it down a notch or two....Maybe they would benefit from some of my magic brownies.....
JUST KIDDING I'M NOT A HIPPIE YA DAMN STICK IN THE MUD!!!