Paxchristos: We have got to give Spike G a gold star on that one, for sure. Checking the date/time files, before and after, rooting or unrooting. Again a long shot, the update scripts for m100 update might be reading some part of a script within the root script, thus it could be a true, or, fase statement. Which ever way it is that could prevent the root script from working. Naturally it could be just the oppisite the root is not finding a certain script in the update, thus no cigar. One hell of a mess, uh?