Originally Posted by mrmojoz
I work for a living and I'm glad to see that people who couldn't get healthcare before now have a chance at it. I'm willing to pay extra to make this happen if need be. You are welcome to protest and lie and shout your little hate filled rants, but I'm not sure you are going to do yourself any favors in the long run. Enjoy your Fox News worldview while it lasts.
I feel the same. I am part of a nation filled with other people. We rise as one and fall as one. I work full time and have a fledgling business on the side. I'm happy to pay a few dollars extra to provide health insurance to those who are not as fortunate as me because if tragedy struck and I was suddenly out of a job, I would want there to be a safety net for me so that my family could receive health care while I was looking for more work. This is what the concept of a united country is: we look out for each other.
Also, IOWA, I have to call bullshit. According to a NHS Survey conducted in 2004 by the UK Department of Health
(the most recent survey to date), 92% of Brit inpatients said they were satisfied with their treatment; 87% of GP users were satisfied with their GP; 87% of hospital outpatients were satisfied with the service they received; and 70% of Accident and Emergency department users reported being satisfied. If you want me to drudge up the numbers I will but let's just say Brits are FAR more satisfied with their hybrid system of NHS and Private Health Insurance (you did know that right? That Brits can opt to purchase private insurance or opt to go with the nationalized health care system?) than Americans are with our private health care system.
Also, what exactly do you mean by "wait times are through the roof" and where did you get your data?
Here's an article from Businessweek. I doubt you'll actually read it so I'll do the work for you:
If you find a suspicious-looking mole and want to see a dermatologist, you can expect an average wait of 38 days in the U.S., and up to 73 days if you live in Boston, according to researchers at the University of California at San Francisco who studied the matter. Got a knee injury? A 2004 survey by medical recruitment firm Merritt, Hawkins & Associates found the average time needed to see an orthopedic surgeon ranges from 8 days in Atlanta to 43 days in Los Angeles. Nationwide, the average is 17 days. "Waiting is definitely a problem in the U.S., especially for basic care," says Karen Davis, president of the nonprofit Commonwealth Fund, which studies health-care policy.
All this time spent "queuing," as other nations call it, stems from too much demand and too little supply. Only one-third of U.S. doctors are general practitioners, compared with half in most European countries. On top of that, only 40% of U.S. doctors have arrangements for after-hours care, vs. 75% in the rest of the industrialized world. Consequently, some 26% of U.S. adults in one survey went to an emergency room in the past two years because they couldn't get in to see their regular doctor, a significantly higher rate than in other countries.
There is no systemized collection of data on wait times in the U.S. That makes it difficult to draw comparisons with countries that have national health systems, where wait times are not only tracked but made public. However, a 2005 survey by the Commonwealth Fund of sick adults in six nations found that only 47% of U.S. patients could get a same- or next-day appointment for a medical problem, worse than every other country except Canada.
The only areas in which the US has short waiting times? If you need non-emergency surgery such as a hip replacement. Oh, and that hip replacement? That's a procedure most often needed by seniors who are - you guessed it - covered under Medicare. That nasty socialist program that 68% of seniors are happy with compared to the 48% satisfaction rate of the rest of Americans covered under private insurance.
Again, just in case you're bad at math, that means more people are satisfied with Medicare than those who are satisfied with private health care. The proof is in the pudding my friend.