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Old August 6th, 2010, 10:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Unhappy No 4g In Phoenix Az? Really? and not coming anytime soon

Seriously why is the 5th largest market in the United states one that will not see 4g for a while. Not listed to come anytime soon either!

this is whats now

Georgia – Atlanta, Milledgeville
Hawaii – Honolulu, Maui
Idaho – Boise
Illinois – Chicago
Maryland – Baltimore
Nevada – Las Vegas
North Carolina – Charlotte, Greensboro, (along with High Point and Winston-Salem), Raleigh (along with Cary, Chapel Hill and Durham)
Oregon – Portland, Salem
Pennsylvania – Philadelphia
Texas – Abilene, Amarillo, Austin, Corpus Christi, Dallas/Ft. Worth, Killeen/Temple, Lubbock, Midland/Odessa, San Antonio, Waco, Wichita Falls
Washington – Bellingham, Seattle.


and to be done in 2010

Boston, Denver, Kansas City, Houston, Minneapolis, New York, San Francisco and Washington, D.C. They’re also promising to sneak a few more launches in there before the year is out, but they’re not naming any names.

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Off topic, but Clear is testing their super lte in phoenix later this year. It obviously has no effect on anybody currently but it will be interesting to see how the testing will affect sprints future 4g plans.
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It looks like Sprint/Clear 4G is on the way to Phoenix and will have both WiMax and LTE.

Clearwire Corp - News Room - News Release=

Clearwire expects to conduct tests across three key areas:


•FDD LTE: Clearwire intends to conduct FDD LTE (Frequency Division Duplex) tests using 40 MHz of spectrum, paired in 20 MHz contiguous channels, of its 2.5 GHz spectrum. Clearwire expects to confirm the capability to produce real-world download speeds that range from 20-70 Mbps. This is expected to be significantly faster than the 5-12 Mbps speeds currently envisioned by other LTE deployments in the U.S., which will rely on smaller pairs of 10 Mhz channels or less.
•TDD LTE: Clearwire will concurrently test TDD LTE (Time Division Duplex), in a 20 MHz configuration, which is twice the channel size currently used in its 4G WiMAX deployments.
•WiMAX and LTE: Clearwire will also test WiMAX co-existence with both FDD LTE and TDD LTE to confirm the flexibility of its network and spectrum strength to simultaneously support a wide-range of devices across its all-IP network.

..This is to begin this fall.
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It looks like Sprint/Clear 4G is on the way to Phoenix and will have both WiMax and LTE.

So the good news is WiMax is on the way to Phoenix. Now the bad news. WiMax is on the way to Phoenix.

We have Sprint's WiMax here. Generally unimpressive when it does work. Often it doesn't work because the signal is undependable.

I hope they do a better rollout in Phoenix than they did in Richmond. The coverage map looks like Swiss cheese. Naturally, my house falls into a small hole. All the natural area around my house has great coverage. So if I walk into the woods I should have a great signal! The 4G coverage obviously is way smaller than 3G.

It gets worse. If you look at the coverage maps there are 2 levels of coverage. One is what you'd expect. You can get signal inside a building. What's disappointing is a huge part of the coverage map is "street" coverage which means you need to be outside to get signal.

For this Sprint is jacking up prices on phones (e.g., Epic), plans ($10 surcharge), and plan requirements ($69.99 minimum).

Can we say "good-bye Sprint?" I knew we could!
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Old August 17th, 2010, 04:57 PM   #5 (permalink)
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^^^

lol.

After clicking on your screen name and reviewing all six of your prior posts... its obvious you are a troll and know nothing about what you are talking about. nice try.
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So the good news is WiMax is on the way to Phoenix. Now the bad news. WiMax is on the way to Phoenix.

We have Sprint's WiMax here. Generally unimpressive when it does work. Often it doesn't work because the signal is undependable.

I hope they do a better rollout in Phoenix than they did in Richmond. The coverage map looks like Swiss cheese. Naturally, my house falls into a small hole. All the natural area around my house has great coverage. So if I walk into the woods I should have a great signal! The 4G coverage obviously is way smaller than 3G.

It gets worse. If you look at the coverage maps there are 2 levels of coverage. One is what you'd expect. You can get signal inside a building. What's disappointing is a huge part of the coverage map is "street" coverage which means you need to be outside to get signal.

For this Sprint is jacking up prices on phones (e.g., Epic), plans ($10 surcharge), and plan requirements ($69.99 minimum).

Can we say "good-bye Sprint?" I knew we could!

plus its on every website that there is going to be no 4g coverage in the near future for Phoenix Area. and they even announced the cities for 2010 and no phoenix..
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I live in phoenix and my neighbor works for clearwire (straight and she said there is already 500 4g towers gone up and and expects it to be rolling by christmas. And yes its going to be lte test area and wimax.
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Yep Phoenix should be online this year..
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any proof?
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plus its on every website that there is going to be no 4g coverage in the near future for Phoenix Area. and they even announced the cities for 2010 and no phoenix..
Dude seriously, google it up if you think people are making this up. Phoenix is gonna get LTE and Wi-Max either late 2010, or early 2011. Your city is the ONLY city that is gonna get both Wi-Fi and LTE from Sprint/Clearwire.
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any proof?
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I had a conversation with Sprint regarding 4G in Phoenix today... here it is:




12:06:54 PM :

Connected to sprint.ehosts.net




12:06:55 PM :

Session ID: 1248xxx



12:06:55 PM :
bc: Initial Question/Comment: 4G coverage




12:07:05 PM :

Please wait and the next available account specialist will be with you shortly.




12:07:05 PM :

You are next in queue...




12:07:25 PM :

If you are chatting today for Technical Support, please call 1-888-211-4727.




12:07:40 PM :

Dominick has joined this session!




12:07:40 PM :

Connected with Dominick. Your Reference Number for this chat session is 1248xxx.




12:07:41 PM :

Thank you for contacting Sprint. My name is Dominick.



12:07:57 PM :
bc: Hi Dominick



12:08:02 PM :
bc: I have a question about 4G coverage



12:08:57 PM :
bc: I have had the EVO since it came out in July and have been paying the additional 10$ per month. I was wondering if you have a date as to when I will be able to use 4G in my home town of Phoneix



12:09:02 PM :
bc: Phoenix*



12:10:16 PM :
Dominick: Yes, by December 2010 the 4G service will be available in your area.



12:10:51 PM :
bc: 4G will be in Phoenix in December?



12:11:01 PM :
Dominick: Yes.



12:12:00 PM :
bc: Thats great news! Thanks Dominick.



12:12:11 PM :
Dominick: My goal is to ensure the issues that prompted you to chat today are fully resolved. Did I address the reason for your chat today?



12:12:23 PM :
bc: absolutley. thank you



12:12:31 PM :
Dominick: A short survey follows this chat. I appreciate you taking the time to provide feedback because survey results help Sprint measure my performance.

At Sprint, we know you have a choice in wireless providers and sincerely thank you for choosing us.

Please click Exit and complete Survey.



12:12:48 PM :
Dominick: Have a nice day.



12:12:48 PM :
bc: Will do. havea nice day!
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if you check clearwire's site.. it shows that 7th street and bell rd has 4g... if i am ever in that area i will check and post back...just wanted to give a heads up
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There are 6 -7 markets not shown on Clears map that are suppose to launch this year.

They are trying to launch 80-85 markets by the end of the year..

Phoenix is one of them.
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if you check clearwire's site.. it shows that 7th street and bell rd has 4g... if i am ever in that area i will check and post back...just wanted to give a heads up

Youre right, and this is Definately new. This was not on the site last week. good deal... looks like something is happeningl! thanks!

I live just a few miles from that area, Ill check it out today or tomorrow. if there is a signal i will let ya know.
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I can confirm Sprint 4G is available in parts of Phoenix. The Clearer map seems accurate. I am sending this now via 4G at 7st and Greenway Parkway. 4megs down on the speed test. Not bad for unofficial. It's here!
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About time!!! We're one of the largest metropolitan areas in the country and waiting for 4G has been brutal.
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I am posting from 4g spot right now...works great...i got 3.2mbps down and I hav poor signal...looking good
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Nice! where in Phx?
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I did the test on 7th st and greenway pkwy
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I did the test on 7th st and greenway pkwy
Cool... Thanks!

Thats about the area I picked up a signal too. Hopefully this means they are testing and will role it out all over in the next month or two.
I checked the coverage at Clear.com and it looks like they lit up one or two antennas in that part of Phx.
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Thumbs up my evo got a taste of 4g last night :-)

I live about 5 miles away from 7th st and bell rd. I drove there last night and I was very impressed with how fast 4g is. I parked in two different spots and the first time I got 4mb down and the second spot near central and bell rd, I got 7.6 mb down. it was actually faster than my cox internet at home. I was in that area about 10:00 pm.
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Same here got a 7.45 on the speed test at bell and 9th st. At frank lyod wright and scottsdale rd the lte is up with 17 mbps downloads wooooow!
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is the evo capable of LTE? or would we need a different device for that...
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No its not, Not sure what he is referring to.
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No its not, Not sure what he is referring to.
The phone will work on lte . type lte phoenix on google phoenix is the first test area in the country for sprint lte. And its up and running in scottsdale Also i was told lte will work its not a hardware thing like people think. its sprint lte and works on sprint phones.
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The phone will work on lte . type lte phoenix on google phoenix is the first test area in the country for sprint lte. And its up and running in scottsdale Also i was told lte will work its not a hardware thing like people think. its sprint lte and works on sprint phones.
Humm.. very interesting. this is news to me. So are you telling me you are pulling LTE on a Sprint 4G Phone in Scottsdale?
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There's 4G there now. Unofficial, but it's there.
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That was my understanding also, that it was a software thing, not hardware; but thanks Larry54321 for clarifying it a bit more. It makes sense too because it would be hassle for sprint to sell 2 different types of phones, one for wimax and another for lte.
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Humm.. very interesting. this is news to me. So are you telling me you are pulling LTE on a Sprint 4G Phone in Scottsdale?

There is no current Sprint phone sold that will access the LTE network
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Even if Sprint were testing an LTE network, there are no LTE-capable devices from Sprint that can access it. Sprint uses WiMax as its 4G technology, not LTE.
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I didn't believe it but I was in the area of 7th st and Bell today and there really is 4g. I took some screen shots but I wasn't able to upload them.
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I didn't believe it but I was in the area of 7th st and Bell today and there really is 4g. I took some screen shots but I wasn't able to upload them.
this is true... I've picked it up in this part of North Phoenix several times now. Its on the coverage map @ Clear.com too. It is a strong signal and speeds are fast. Here is hoping WiMax is on the way to Phoenix now!
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I didn't believe it but I was in the area of 7th st and Bell today and there really is 4g. I took some screen shots but I wasn't able to upload them.
I can't wait for sprint to turn on all those 4g towers in phoenix, I mean, I think all evo and epic owners should gather somewhere to celebrate, haha. that is going to be a huge day. It will totally change how we use our phones from then on. I was amazed how fast it downloaded HQ youtube videos, the possibilities seem endless with super fast mobile Internet. Where my office is, we can only get qwest at 1.5mb and they charge $75 a month, I'm thinking when 4g is on, I will get a sprint 4g hot spot and use it as my main internet and ditch qwest.
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I did that a few months ago... its been working out great!
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See that little green spot at the top of the map?
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They are getting ready to turn on most of the city. I have been right about everything as you see. My neighbor is a boss at clear. And yes LTE will work on evo and epic. It already does.
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They are getting ready to turn on most of the city. I have been right about everything as you see. My neighbor is a boss at clear. And yes LTE will work on evo and epic. It already does.
will they turn it on this month or january?
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After seeing the map updated on clear.com with 4G service listed in north Phoenix, I decided to take a drive out there tonight to test it out. I was parked on the southeast corner of Bell Rd & 7th St, in the Chase Bank parking lot.

4G lit up right away at the intersection, and this was my speedtest result...

Download: 6.63 Mbps
Upload: 0.97 Mbps
Ping: 123 ms

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Sprint lte is here and work on sprint phones because its sprints network! Like I said b4 my neighbor works for clear as head engineer in the field. LTE will work on current sprint 4g phones. Read this Clearwire to start testing LTE in Phoenix this fall | Droid Police google sprint lte in phoenix pages of it will come up. Its just a software update. Its a double bandwith spectrum with download speeds of 80 mbps eventually. know one else but sprint has this bandwith spectrum.
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Sprint lte is here and work on sprint phones because its sprints network! Like I said b4 my neighbor works for clear as head engineer in the field. LTE will work on current sprint 4g phones. Read this Clearwire to start testing LTE in Phoenix this fall | Droid Police google sprint lte in phoenix pages of it will come up. Its just a software update. Its a double bandwith spectrum with download speeds of 80 mbps eventually. know one else but sprint has this bandwith spectrum.
I go by Frank Lloyd Wright / Scottsdale everyday, and there is no Sprint 4G anything there. At least nothing that works on my Evo, anyway.
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I need someone who can root my friends Samsung Epic, anyone?
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Check it out... T-Mobile HSPA+ in Phoenix. http://www.speedtest.net/result/1076416724.png

BTW, that's tethered to my laptop via wifi.
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Theres more area in the north valley turned on says the clear map.
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Theres more area in the north valley turned on says the clear map.
My map looks the same as the last time I checked, nothing new here....
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Old December 23rd, 2010, 09:19 PM   #46 (permalink)
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My map looks the same as the last time I checked, nothing new here....
Check the map at clear.com (click coverage), there is a new area of 4G coverage in the chandler/gilbert area. This is new. I live near the area in north Phoenix that has Sprint 4G, and it is a strong signal and seems pretty darn fast. Looks like Sprint and Clear are definately expanding in Phoenix!!
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They are replaceing my evo with a new one. unrevoked doesnt work on new evos. can anyone root my new evo? thanks pm me if you want. Or maybe you do Ben I live in the same area.
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They are replaceing my evo with a new one. unrevoked doesnt work on new evos. can anyone root my new evo? thanks pm me if you want. Or maybe you do Ben I live in the same area.
Wish I could help, but i am 100% stock EVO, man. sorry.
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Confirmed coverage in Chandler/Gilbert area.

Clear coverage map...

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Yup, thats what I saw too. There is coverage (of about the same size) in north Phoenix as well. Hopefully this means that the Phoenix roll out of Sprint 4G is underway. I Cant Wait!
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