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Old December 28th, 2012, 08:31 AM   #801 (permalink)
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Just called my sprint store, they said LTE will be launching in my area by "the 1st quarter of 2013"...

So I asked her "then it would be a good bet to check it out around may or june?",

She replied "No, like Janurary or Feb..."

She went on to act like at midnight on new years the area would be completely covered with LTE coverage....I think I will wait until spring/early summer to check it out. Looks like I can buy a phone and check the coverage..if I am not impressed with the coverage I have a 14 day return window.

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Just called my sprint store, they said LTE will be launching in my area by "the 1st quarter of 2013"...

So I asked her "then it would be a good bet to check it out around may or june?",

She replied "No, like Janurary or Feb..."

She went on to act like at midnight on new years the area would be completely covered with LTE coverage....I think I will wait until spring/early summer to check it out. Looks like I can buy a phone and check the coverage..if I am not impressed with the coverage I have a 14 day return window.
it would be much easier to...
while out shopping for anything...
stop by any sprint vendor...
ask to test LTE with one of their demos..

if there is any LTE, then go for it. 14day test
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it would be much easier to...
while out shopping for anything...
stop by any sprint vendor...
ask to test LTE with one of their demos..

if there is any LTE, then go for it. 14day test

I will probably do that, my biggest concern is having great service at the store, then getting home and having next to nothing.

I would get usable service at work with my sprint phone...good voice/data service. But I barely had a signal at home.

I am hoping that the LTE signal is strong.
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I found some LTE near Atlanta on our christmas roadtrip... I was benchmarking with one hand and driving with the other. Most were half of this but this was the best one I got. If it works like this when they roll it out I'll be a very happy camper.
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I found some LTE near Atlanta on our christmas roadtrip... I was benchmarking with one hand and driving with the other. Most were half of this but this was the best one I got. If it works like this when they roll it out I'll be a very happy camper.
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Speed daemon I already privately asked you this. But I am one of the few smr operators left I have a five channel system 855-860. What do you think is going to happen to us?
Are they just gonna attempt to buy the rest of us out? Any info would be appreciated. Non of the radio companies seem interesting in building new ltr radios. Thanks in advance
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The first LTE tower went online here this week in Ocala,FL finally. They're installing the rest of the towers in town as fast as they can get the equipment in too so hopefully the rest are coming online soon. The company I work for is providing backhaul for them at a bunch of towers around here so I have seen the gear firsthand. Looks like we're finally getting some LTE goodness!

Btw if anyone is looking to buy some old iden equipment I know where you can get some real cheap! They're ripping it all out by the truckload. What used to take an entire room to run is being replaced by one rack. It's pretty amazing.
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The first LTE tower went online here this week in Ocala,FL finally. They're installing the rest of the towers in town as fast as they can get the equipment in too so hopefully the rest are coming online soon. The company I work for is providing backhaul for them at a bunch of towers around here so I have seen the gear firsthand.
Cool! That would be really fun to see some of that new stuff up close before it gets locked away in a secure rack storage for years, or see some old stuff torn out before its refurbished/disposed of.

On an un-related note. Has anyone heard anything about HD Voice lately? As I've said before in this topic, I realize its roll out is inherently tied to the Network Vision rollout. However, I have been halfway expecting to hear something more about it from Sprint by now. Initial talk of HD Voice, during the Evo 4G LTE rollout, was preliminarily slated for 2012 Q4/Q1 2013 release.
Yeah I know initial plans can change and we're still in Q1, but there hasn't been a single peep about HD voice since the release of the iPhone 5 in early Sept., stating briefly that "it wouldn't receive HD Voice support."
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I'd love to post pics of it but I'm pretty sure there's an NDA on me. As such I'll only be able to talk about the parts that are public knowledge.

As for HD voice, I thought you just needed 2 phones that supported it to see it in action. Honestly I had forgotten about it until you just mentioned it. I have a friend with an evo 4g lte I'll have to try it with.
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I'd love to post pics of it but I'm pretty sure there's an NDA on me. As such I'll only be able to talk about the parts that are public knowledge.

As for HD Voice, I thought you just needed 2 phones that supported it to see it in action. Honestly I had forgotten about it until you just mentioned it. I have a friend with an Evo 4G LTE I'll have to try it with.
Yeah, Don't do that! Not worth it. I wouldn't say anymore than you already have. We can all be content without any more details.

Correct, 2 HD Voice capable phones and a capable network are needed*
(its still not clear what the network requirements are - probably 4G or a very fast 3G? CDMA 1x network must be officially changed over to 1x-Advanced on Sprint's end first?).

You can try a test call with your friend, however I feel fairly confident that a software update will be needed at handset level or at tower level (Network Vision) before we can take advantage of the service (something will have to be in place to detect the needed variables and tell the phone/tower to use/transfer the narrow-band wide-band codec that HD Voice utilizes).
If you do try a test call, try to make it with both of you in your local 4G area?
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Yep, at announcement they were specific that HD Voice required CDMA 1X Advanced, as well as capable phones.
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I'm seeing more and more 4G around Jacksonville FL. It is a little fun watching approach the core of Jax. Unforntunately this does not seem to have translated to better building penetration for me. I'm still hopeful though.
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I asked them if the coverage would get any better and one of the guys told me no. He said areas that were dead before will still probably be dead after the upgrades are complete. I have seen at least one area though that I got bars in before but data just refused to work get much better when they fired up the new antennas. I think it had a other issues though besides coverage.
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Sprint brings 4G LTE to Boston, Austin and more

Sprint is boasting the addition of 9 new 4G LTE cities, including heavy hitters like the Boston, MA; Austin, TX; and Fort Wayne, IN. In addition to them, folks in College Station/Bryan, TX; Columbia, TN; Emporia, KS; Gettysburg, PA; and Western Puerto Rico
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I'm seeing more and more 4G around Jacksonville FL. It is a little fun watching approach the core of Jax. Unforntunately this does not seem to have translated to better building penetration for me. I'm still hopeful though.
My experience is that building penetration is not a problem at all with LTE. I think you just need to wait until more areas are covered in your region. I get a pretty good signal in doors on the 7th floor of an office building. I'm also in the interior of the office. My office within the office(lol) has walls all around it. So yeah it has to penetrate a lot of crap and does it pretty well.
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"It isn’t just about 4G LTE, though. Sprint’s overall network vision strategy will look to drastically improve 3G service across the board, as well."

yeah.. right.. it has NOT improved 3G
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"It isnít just about 4G LTE, though. Sprintís overall network vision strategy will look to drastically improve 3G service across the board, as well."

yeah.. right.. it has NOT improved 3G
Both don't necessarily come online at one time. They are actually separate works. Both require Sprint to accept any/all new services from the vendor before they are officially activated. The hold up could be a few things, but most likely it is the backhaul.
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my guess..

they are thinking.. one 4G LTE come online.. and they get clients to purchase LTE phones.. some traffic will migrate over to 4G.
this will reduce traffic in the 3G network. therefore, 3G speeds will improve.

NOT upgrading 3G..
they might in some areas.. or at some point it time.. in the future.
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my guess..

they are thinking.. one 4G LTE come online.. and they get clients to purchase LTE phones.. some traffic will migrate over to 4G.
this will reduce traffic in the 3G network. therefore, 3G speeds will improve.

NOT upgrading 3G..
they might in some areas.. or at some point it time.. in the future.
That's not exactly true either. Some 3G upgrades have come online before 4G LTE. Alcatel Lucent is notorious for working on 3G upgrades prior to completing 4G LTE in their markets. NYC being the prime example of that. The network is being rebuilt from the ground up. It obviously takes time. This clearly isn't one of those band-aid operations that other providers like to do.
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That's not exactly true either. Some 3G upgrades have come online before 4G LTE. Alcatel Lucent is notorious for working on 3G upgrades prior to completing 4G LTE in their markets. NYC being the prime example of that. The network is being rebuilt from the ground up. It obviously takes time. This clearly isn't one of those band-aid operations that other providers like to do.

well.. i am here to say...

i live in Dallas/ft worth Texas..one of the first to get 4G LTE sprint.
my 3G sucks.. and has sucked for close to 2 yrs. below 500kbs .. often below 100kbs
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well.. i am here to say...

i live in Dallas/ft worth Texas..one of the first to get 4G LTE sprint.
my 3G sucks.. and has sucked for close to 2 yrs. below 500kbs .. often below 100kbs
That sucks, but it is entirely possible that wherever you frequent is in one of the many transitional zones. Many have confirmed that signal and speeds have decreased in areas that are under construction/improvement prior to them getting better.
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Both don't necessarily come online at one time. They are actually separate works. Both require Sprint to accept any/all new services from the vendor before they are officially activated. The hold up could be a few things, but most likely it is the backhaul.
They may be separate works, but they're in the same rack and using the same backhaul.
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And keep in mind that your market isn't even complete yet so once more sites come online speeds are gonna improve
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Can't wait for that happens for us in NYC.
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Picked up some great speeds yesterday while walking from my office (70th and 2nd) to catch the E train (51st and Lex).
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I noticed today the data connection icon on the taskbar of my EVO 4G LTE says it is connected to 4G rather than 3G as it usually is. This would be great, except I live no where even remotely close to a 4G LTE network.

I do notice my speeds appear much faster than normal (maybe a placebo affect), but I checked them and they are only around 3Mbps which would be way to low for 4G. I never benchmarked my speeds before so I don't know what I'm usually getting.

Why would the phone suddenly think it's on 4G?
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I noticed today the data connection icon on the taskbar of my EVO 4G LTE says it is connected to 4G rather than 3G as it usually is. This would be great, except I live no where even remotely close to a 4G LTE network.

I do notice my speeds appear much faster than normal (maybe a placebo affect), but I checked them and they are only around 3Mbps which would be way to low for 4G. I never benchmarked my speeds before so I don't know what I'm usually getting.

Why would the phone suddenly think it's on 4G?
The only way your phone would show 4g is if you are on 4g. Speeds of around 3Mbps are not way too low for 4g. That would just be far from the source tower. Sprint is turning on towers everyday throughout the country ahead of actually launching the markets. For instance I am in New Orleans and we have about 8 LTE towers active ahead of the launch (probably launch sometime around May) The fact that you have 4g is a great sign; Where are you located?
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I'm in Midland, MI. That would be great if they've got 4G out here. I didn't see this area in any rollout plans.
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I'm in Midland, MI. That would be great if they've got 4G out here. I didn't see this area in any rollout plans.
Yup you have two towers in your area shown as either in progress or full LTE. The tower that is full LTE is around 2812 Rockwell Drive. Looks like your area is getting LTE sooner rather than later. Go to Community Blog List - Sprint 4G Rollout Updates (I hope the admins here don't mind me posting this link). It is a site that deals explicitly with the LTE rollout and there are even Tower Locations and Progress in the Sponsors forum. Donate a couple bucks and you can join those of us who are mapping out our areas early via Sensorly. Also check out Sensorly (they have an Android app) and contribute to the community.
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That's great and unexpected news. Thanks for the info!
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I noticed today the data connection icon on the taskbar of my EVO 4G LTE says it is connected to 4G rather than 3G as it usually is. This would be great, except I live no where even remotely close to a 4G LTE network.

I do notice my speeds appear much faster than normal (maybe a placebo affect), but I checked them and they are only around 3Mbps which would be way to low for 4G. I never benchmarked my speeds before so I don't know what I'm usually getting.

Why would the phone suddenly think it's on 4G?
It's possible they activated the new 4g equipment but don't have their new backhaul in place yet... You might just be running as fast as the existing data will run. When they flip the switch it should take off.
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Old February 14th, 2013, 04:49 PM   #833 (permalink)
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GOT LTE zip code 92807 Orange County calif. I'm working on posting a screen shot
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This tower was probably just activated a few hours before I ran this. I bet I was the only person even connected to it!

I ran 6 or 7 tests to be sure it wasn't a fluke. They were all in this range.
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Old February 16th, 2013, 11:35 AM   #835 (permalink)
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This tower was probably just activated a few hours before I ran this. I bet I was the only person even connected to it!

I ran 6 or 7 tests to be sure it wasn't a fluke. They were all in this range.
I'm not sure if you ran that test connected to LTE on the top of that screen shot it shows you are on WiFi. You need to turn off WiFi for LTE to light up.
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Um, I took the speed test while I was out and about and the screen shot when I was at home. My Speed at home is only 15MB and this is twice that. The test was 3:58PM and the screen shot is at 7:02 the next morning. Not only that but the speed test clearly shows LTE...

The test is legit.
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I did not say the test was not legit. I think my reply came off wrong....It was more of a question. I was just going by the screen shot you gave. Glad to see you are getting good results. Good Luck
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Nice to know this is finally going up in the OC. I work in 92802 and live in 90680. I have yet to pick up any LTE signal in those areas. This however gives me hope that I will in the near future
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More LTE in the 92807 area Anaheim. But reports show it popping up all over the OC.
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Wow, that's pretty awesome. Hollywood is still spotty. I rarely connect to LTE anymore. Just depends where I am. San Fernando valley has been the most consistent, in the areas I frequent, but the OC info is great for when I visit my best friend.
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Sprint just announced 9 more markets: Sprint 4G rolls out to nine new markets
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Sprint just announced 9 more markets: Sprint 4G rolls out to nine new markets
Nothing different happens when Sprint announces a market to be "active". It isn't as if towers go offline then suddenly magic arrives and they are activated when Sprint announces. Once a tower is active, it stays active unless the OEM decides it requires maintenance for any particular aspect. These "announcements" are misleading.

PS: Speeds from expanded LTE by my office. Right up where I thought it should/would expect it to be.
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Excellent news coming out of NE Philly on S4GRU today!
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I don’t know if this about Sprint, here in Prescott AZ, but they’re hiring...

LTE Tower Work - Technicians Needed Immediately!
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Was at work this morning in Anaheim (the convention center) and got 4g LTE for a few minutes for the first time ever. Happened a couple times. It was off and on but I managed to do a couple speed tests. The first time at the upload part of the test it switched back to 3g. Looks like things are moving along. Cant wait till this in constant.






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I've been picking it up quite a bit the past week in downtown minneapolis.

Its about a block from my place now. Cant wait till I can get it in the couch
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Man its so sweet to go ANYWHERE in yo house and have consistent lte even in my basement
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Man its so sweet to go ANYWHERE in yo house and have consistent lte even in my basement

If ya got a doghouse in the backyard,I'm calling "dibs" ,I want me some LTE!
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