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Old September 7th, 2011, 10:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Smile Network vision & LTE rollout

Thought I would post this here since our evo 3d will be supported in this project.

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many handsets on the network will benefit, so moved here for the masses. I read about this a while ago and had forgotten about this new project. glad to see it moving forward. yet another reason to be with Sprint.
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I realize in some ways, all phones will benefit. But, how can you tell/know which will benefit most? (The newer phones w/ 800mhz capability?). Thanks.
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I realize in some ways, all phones will benefit. But, how can you tell/know which will benefit most? (The newer phones w/ 800mhz capability?). Thanks.
The phones that support the esmr band (800 mhz) and support evdo rev. B and 1x advanced will benefit the most
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Cool, Thanks! Do you know which phones support that esmr band and/or rev. B??
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Cool, Thanks! Do you know which phones support that esmr band and/or rev. B??
I'm not sure which ones support rev. B and 1x advanced but the only phones I know cleared the fcc for use on sprint with the esmr bands are e3d and the epic touch
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that is great.. but when will it start to go live? which cities?
I want data to be better than it is now... not saying it has to be LTE speeds.. but more usable 3G and 4G...

yes.. I am in a major sprint 4G area.
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that is great.. but when will it start to go live? which cities?
I want data to be better than it is now... not saying it has to be LTE speeds.. but more usable 3G and 4G...

yes.. I am in a major sprint 4G area.
this is what im trying to figure out myself. im pretty sure they have already started since its supposed to be completed by 2013
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here's more information about the upgrades
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Default Is network vision starting to roll out? Fantastic 3G speeds in Tampa, FL.

I was consistently getting these kind of 3G speeds last night. Not very late, but not quite peak hours either. This is 3x as fast as anything I EVER got on Verizon. Sprint 3G has always been faster than Verizon's for me, but not this fast.

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I have had speeds similar to that in Town N' Country. Which part of Tampa did you get those speeds? The 4G should have been very sappy as well (5mbps? or more)
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I have had speeds similar to that in Town N' Country. Which part of Tampa did you get those speeds? The 4G should have been very sappy as well (5mbps? or more)
I am primarily in Brandon/Riverview area. 4G is about the same 3-4 Mbps. In Tampa I can get 5+ in some areas. Hopefully we'll start to see some improvement on the 4G side as well.
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I believe the photon also supports the 800 band. But I could be wrong
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I am glad Sprint has a plan to fix the coverage on their network. By the time the 800 Mhz band improvements reaches my area, I would have already upgrading to a phone that supports it. Are they going to post which areas they are working on or will we have to check to the coverage map to see if it has updated?
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I believe the photon also supports the 800 band. But I could be wrong
Just did a cursory search about this and according to the information in this thread it doesn't appear that it does. There may be information to the contrary out there though.

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The only phones I've heard that support 800Mhz are the EVO 3D and the Conquer so far. I would like to know *when*?
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The only phones I've heard that support 800Mhz are the EVO 3D and the Conquer so far. I would like to know *when*?
They will finish by 2013, which makes me think that they have already started.
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Idk what is going on but my speeds on my EVO 3D (since the PRL fiasco) have been phenomenal. I had read that they planned on rolling out in 8 metropolitan areas... perhaps Nashville is one of them???! Not saying that this has anything to do with this, but something good is definitely happening around here
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They will finish by 2013, which makes me think that they have already started.
If they are pushing out evdo rev. B I would think it would be pretty quick because to my knowledge, it's a software upgrade
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i don't remember reading anything about them rolling out evdo rev B but i guess they could be if its just software to get a jump on speed everywhere why they wait for hardware upgrades with network vision.

if you install the CDMA field test app from the market it will tell you what EVDO revision you are running. or depending on your phone it might tell you in the "about phone" section.
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OK, this is some pretty crazy stuff... 4G at my house, full bars... Unreal...

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i take it you don't usually get full bars at your house?
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i take it you don't usually get full bars at your house?
No, sometimes I get one. Full bars is highly unusual. I do usually get very good 3G.

EDIT: I should clarify that I never received full bars of 4G itself until a few days ago for a brief period, then it went to one or no bars. Today it was on consistently and reached full bars several times. 3G has been pretty good but within the last few days speeds have gone up considerably.

My regular phone reception is usually 4-6 bars.
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well unless i'm reading too much into the post it sounds like they may have started already....

SprintUsers.com - View Single Post - there goes the network! (iphone data)

the poster either works for sprint or a company that sprint uses cause he seems to be in the know a lot....
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They will finish by 2013, which makes me think that they have already started.
According to this article from August they haven't begun yet. Still in preparation stages.

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According to this article from August they haven't begun yet. Still in preparation stages.

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My impression is that at the time the article was written you are correct. That was three weeks ago so it is possible that they are at the very least doing some sort of tower preparation. I guess it is still speculation at this point but I can tell you that I am seeing speeds that up until now I could only attain when in downtown Nashville.
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I realize this has nothing to do with the Tampa area but lately I have noticed about those same 3G speeds or better consistently about 10 miles outside the Nashville TN area. Imho if other areas are reporting occurrences like this then I believe at the very least some tower testing and preparation is going on.
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This is the updated (8/30/2011) 3G coverage map for my area. This fits with the 3G speed increases I've been noticing.



This is the updated 4G coverage map which appears to be pretty accurate because I can now get at least one bar of 4G consistently in my house.



This is all very encouraging!
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Honestly it will take something like this improvement if sprint plans to keep it's head above water. Most areas in my town data coverage is either slow or non-existent. The coverage map shows an update to mine on 8/30/11 too. I'll check it out and see if it really improved.
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looks like it very well may be network vision updates that you are experiencing!

SprintUsers.com - View Single Post - there goes the network! (iphone data)
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well unless i'm reading too much into the post it sounds like they may have started already....

SprintUsers.com - View Single Post - there goes the network! (iphone data)

the poster either works for sprint or a company that sprint uses cause he seems to be in the know a lot....
Don't work for Sprint but my old company does subcontracting work for them
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looks like it very well may be network vision updates that you are experiencing!

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OK, this is some pretty crazy stuff... 4G at my house, full bars... Unreal...

thats nothing. wish i did a screen shot but i was getting 13 meg down and about 1 1/2 up at my church the other day on 4g(they have a tower for clear tho hehe)
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There is absolutely no improvement in my densely populated tech savvy area. I just tested and the ping is at a great 93ms but download is only 518kbps and weirdly upload is faster at 663kbps. Something better be done soon.

Oh, and for some reason I'm not getting 4g at all today. I don't even get the crappy speeds or the 4g service that normally cuts in and out for no reason.

Come on Sprint! You can do better than this! Can't you?
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For no reason at all 4g came on. I got 98ms ping, download at 1648kbps and upload is a pathetic 150kbps. That is abysmal!
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There was only a very minor improvement in my area as well. Here's hoping they haven't finished the upgrade yet. You can still find me working while sitting under my favorite cell tower downtown. *sigh*
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It will take time. I would say about Dec-Jan you will start to noticed the improvements..

Alot of it is sit and wait time then a ton gets done, then it is sit and wait again

Lots of coordination, permitting and getting people to do their jobs..
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They might have to do some permitting with the FCC to change their equipment but if they're upgrading existing facilities there won't be any municipal permits to do. Once it's in place it's considered maintenance...

If the equipment wasn't in place and active yet, imo they shouldn't have upgraded the coverage maps for my area. Just sayin'...
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Looks like the moment we all have been waiting for will come at around 9:30am (eastern).

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Looking forward to seeing what is said about new freqs, LTE and the role of Wimax and Clear.
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LTE to be aggressively rolled out on 1900 band
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Things are just getting started. From the webcast: "aggressive" roll out of 4G LTE on 1900mhz (vs the current 2500mhz freq), eliminating iDen by 2013. More to come...

"largely complete in 2013"

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now im a lil confused....he's mentioned 1900 lte, 1600 lte, and 800 lte so far

Edit:
Ok he said priorities of use are:
Sprint's 1900
Sprints 800
Lightsquared's 1600
Clear's 2500
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LTE network buildout to be 'mostly complete by the end of 2013'
Committed to wimax by selling devices through 2012
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LTE to be aggressively rolled out on 1900 band
Why not the 800 band??
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Does this mean for certain WiMAX devices will not be able to receive LTE?
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Does this mean for certain WiMAX devices will not be able to receive LTE?
None of the current WiMax devices can handle LTE. First LTE phones will be released "mid 2012"
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