Originally Posted by kool kat2
Age restrictions are all backwards. Either way, this wasn't a killing in self defense or accidental. It was cold murder. With a side of rape and torture. If you're old enough to RAPE and TORTURE a human being, without having been forced into it by some crazy mentor, then you're old enough to be incarcerated for the appropriate amount of time, not flippin juvi. Hell, statutory "rapists" get harsher sentencing than juvi, and no forced sex or torture involved. (of course im referring to the instances where its consensual)
You can ignore the blue text below.... its what I was originally typing before it dawned on me.... the best way to get the point across is an example based on your own arguments..... since you mentioned statutory rape Ill use that
so here goes:
a guy brutally rapes, tortures, and murders someone at the age of 15....... you want him tried as an adult because he was mentally capable as an adult at the age of 15
what if you later found out that same guy at the age of 15 was in a sexual relationship with a 40 year old woman.... would you also want that woman arrested for statutory rape?
either hes an adult or he isnt.......... statutory rape implies hes not an adult........ but murder implies he is?
you cant (in good faith) have it both ways...........but under the law you can today
we arent however talking about today........ and under the laws at the time he committed the crime.... he could not be tried as an adult....... therefore he cannot be tried that way today......
3 years juvi maximum sentence legally possible
ignore blue text below...... unless your curious about a different approach at futility
as I said......
would you feel the same way if he was 6 when he did it?...... what if he was 10?
at what age do you qualify someone as 'adult'............ the law has said 18 is a reasonable age to use
when we start making exceptions to the law its a slippery slope..... for what criteria do we make exceptions......... shouldnt exceptions work both ways?
so if you say certain people at age 15 are mentally competent to be considered adult if they commit a crime.......... then should we also agree that certain people should be allowed to legally drink @ 15? do we have some test to base the criteria on?
we shouldnt be making exceptions to law only when it works in the governments favor.......... the laws should be adhered to no matter the circumstance