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Old January 20th, 2013, 12:37 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Ibrick View Post
Believe it or not people do leave their homes at times.
Shouldn't matter. The argument has been made that if everyone had a gun crime would go down because burglars will avoid homes where they know someone has a gun. So, publishing the fact that you have a gun would be a good thing because burglars would avoid your home and knock over your neighbors house next door as they know that guy doesn't have a gun.

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you are correct..... it doesnt rule out who is/isnt responsible for regulating it........ but more importantly it doesnt rule the US govt in....... once again..... the constitution doesnt give me the right to bear arms....... it restricts the government from infringing on that right....... as for who is ruled out..... I point you once again to who is NOT ruled in

Article 10: The powers not delegated to the United States by the constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

no power of regulating guns was delegated to the United States

and to help you out a little bit...... there arent 2 halves to that sentence...... there are 4 parts (you'll notice the commas)........ and it seems you've completely left out the 2nd part because it specifically defeats your argument

Article 2: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Please notice the last word of the second part......its an important one... States........ in every portion of the constitution where power was delegated to the entirety of the US govt the words United States appear....... in every portion where powers were specifically deferred to the state governments the word States appears......

here in this section youll notice the constitution specifically says being necessary to the security of a free State....... NOT the United States....... the powers to regulate were not delegated to the US govt because thats exactly the reason the amendment exists.... to prevent the US govt from taking away gun rights...... and the militias were never intended for national defense... they were intended if the need arose to prevent the govt from taking away rights...... the states have the power to regulate militias and arms as they see fit...... but the United States shall not infringe

Feel free to use any other arguments you like, be they philosophical, political, traditional etc...
I'll use a legal argument. The federal government does have the right to regulate guns. Not only are there currently existing federal laws regulating guns, but the ATF exists to enforce those laws. So, yes, the feds have the legal right to regulate firearms. The prohibition on felons owning firearms is a federal law (though some states have laws as well). The prohibition on having firearms on your person or in your carry on bag on an airplane is a federal one as well. So, the argument that the feds don't have the legal right to regulate firearms is bogus. The precedent has been set for hundreds of years. Individual laws may or may not be constitutional, but the feds have every right to pass and enforce them.
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