Originally Posted by Speed Daemon
Ah...actually there are quite a few militias
that were formed for that express purpose. You're welcome to come to the US and see for yourself.
Believe it or not, but there's a much larger reality. Just because one person is unaware doesn't mean that something doesn't exist.
Thanks for that.. I was of course aware that there are militias.. but the point i was making (and trying not to get sidetracked by) was that a the time of the founding fathers the 'envisioned' milita was instead of the standing army (which could become an implement of tyranny). I'm not sure if most of the organisations listed in your article actually fulfill that role.
There's also the National Guard
which could be argued is the Militia.. and of course there is an argument that 'Every indivdual is a one man militia' but you'd have to stretch the point to make that fit with the idea that was originally meant.
Of course then you can have a separate discussion about if the constitution is a document that is 'set in stone' with a completely fixed meaning based on the view of the founding fathers in the 18th century.. or if its a 'living document' which can be continually re-interpreted to keep in line with the will of the people in the 21st century.
But if we go down those rabbit holes in this particular thread who knows where we will end up.
And speaking of tangents and rabbit hole.....
Originally Posted by PrinceCorwin
Why do these gun law conversations always take such rediculously pointless tangents? There is only ONE point to be made regarding gun legislation and it is undeniable and without argument:
New gun laws (and ANY new laws for that matter) are only adhered to by law abiding individuals who therefor are no threat to any of us in the first place.
Ok, I'll bite...
The obvious problem with that argument.. is that as by definition criminals are people who break the laws. So why have ANY laws at all.
Thefts are only committed by people who break laws about stealing, so why make stealing against the law. Honest people don't need the laws and criminals ignore them anyway. So why not abolish the lot and have a completely arachistic
Even Moses, had the 10 commandments.. how few do you think that a modern country can manage with?