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Old November 2nd, 2010, 08:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Notsure Liquid e-Micro SD/SDHC question

Hi. I hope this isn't 'old news', but, I am a new owner of Liquid e and I wanted to upgrade my SD card to 32gb. I was told by retailer, (fido) this is nobrainer!
I , unfortunately have a brain, so I checked with Acer 1st. They said I CANNOT use SDHC cards, as the phone is limited to SD input device.
I have spent hours accessing SD info, and it seems they maybe correct!
I just want to know if anyone else has upgraded, if they have had any problems from doing so...( I need honest personal experiences, here)
I am rather unwealthy, (read poor-as-dirt), and I can't afford to destroy this phone.
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 09:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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SD ended at 2 GB
SDHC ends at 32 GB

Source Find the Right SD Memory Card - SD Association

They should know

I use an 8 GB class 6

http://www.sdcard.org/consumers/speed_class/


So it can take a 32 GD SDHC microSD as I run an 8 GB card
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Question O.....K.....

I thank you for the quick reply, RoundEye!

Here is what Acer said, from support:

"Thank you for contacting Acer America. I would be happy to assist you.

After reviewing your email, I understand that you need micro SDHC card for your smart phone.

I sincerely apologize for the inconvenience that you have experienced.

Please be informed that the Micro SD 32 GB memory card will be compatible with your system.

Please be informed that the the 4GB SDHC card will not be compatible with your system."

Tell me, can you get more ambiguous than that?
Since there is No Such Thing as a 32gb Micro SD card, wtf does he mean?

I have already read the info from the site: sd.org. , and I found it a little confusing, as well. They have a diagram showing the inter connectivity, which shows Sd into Sd controller, sd into sdhd controller, sdhd into sdhd controller, but NOT sdhd into sd controller. (find diagram here: SD Technology - SD Association

That all being said, I am happy to note that you are using an 8gb sdhd card with no problems
This should be sufficient, as I am not sure how much memory I will actually be using, so, it gives me some leeway!
I appreciate your answer, and I will try to get up to speed on this phone, so I can be of service to others, as you have been to me!
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 11:23 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Here is a useful tool for formatting SD & SDHC cards as Windows does not do a good job of handling FAT32

SD Memory Card Formatting Software | SD Memory Card | Digital AV | Consumer Products | Support | Panasonic Global

Use the 3.0 BETA if you have Win 7
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I am using a 16 GB SDHC and have had no problems!

Also, regarding gwilo's post, what about just using the phone's built-in formatting tool? (settings> sd card and phone storage> unmount sd card> format)

Would this not be an effective solution without extra software?
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The extra software is free and it is handy to have, if like me and have a lot of SD cards for many items (camera, Palm T|X, Creative Labs ZEN, Cowon D2, Nokia 5800, Liquid E and I can go on)
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The extra software is free and it is handy to have, if like me and have a lot of SD cards for many items (camera, Palm T|X, Creative Labs ZEN, Cowon D2, Nokia 5800, Liquid E and I can go on)

The last time I formatted the card in the Acer I did use Recovery to do it (App2SD)
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I think Acer was focused on SD vs micro SD instead of SD vs SDHC. A 4GB SDHC won't work, but a 4GB microSD will. Physical form factor...

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I thank you for the quick reply, RoundEye!

Here is what Acer said, from support:

"Thank you for contacting Acer America. I would be happy to assist you.

After reviewing your email, I understand that you need micro SDHC card for your smart phone.

I sincerely apologize for the inconvenience that you have experienced.

Please be informed that the Micro SD 32 GB memory card will be compatible with your system.

Please be informed that the the 4GB SDHC card will not be compatible with your system."

Tell me, can you get more ambiguous than that?
Since there is No Such Thing as a 32gb Micro SD card, wtf does he mean?

I have already read the info from the site: sd.org. , and I found it a little confusing, as well. They have a diagram showing the inter connectivity, which shows Sd into Sd controller, sd into sdhd controller, sdhd into sdhd controller, but NOT sdhd into sd controller. (find diagram here: SD Technology - SD Association

That all being said, I am happy to note that you are using an 8gb sdhd card with no problems
This should be sufficient, as I am not sure how much memory I will actually be using, so, it gives me some leeway!
I appreciate your answer, and I will try to get up to speed on this phone, so I can be of service to others, as you have been to me!
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But if you have a big enough hammer it will
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But if you have a big enough hammer it will
LOL!! As I pointed out b4, I am too poor to apply simple tools to the unit!! (Although it sounds appropriate! haha!)

I agree with Jonatuna, that Acer was mixing apples and oranges....but....that kind of scares me

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OhOh!!! Check this out:

General: Brand;Kingston ModelSDC4/32GB
Type; Micro SDHC
Specifications; Capacity32GB
Speed Class; RatingClass 4
Features; Compliant — with the SD Card Association card 2.00 specification

Versatile - when combined with the adapter, can be used as a full-size SDHC card

Compatible - with microSDHC host devices; not compatible with standard microSD-enabled device/readers

File Format - FAT32

Dimensions - 0.43"x0.59"x0.039" (11mm x 15mm x 1mm)

High-Speed Class Rating - Class 4: 4MB/sec. minimum data transfer rate

Operating Temperature - -13°F to 185°F (-25°C to 85°C) Manufacturer Warranty Parts1 year limited Labor1 year limited

These are the specs of the card I intended to get. Note the interface statement.
Are they being 'COY'? Or, am I being paranoid?
Hope peeps are still perusing this thread...
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I would look for a Class 6 card, as they are much faster if you want to use it for App2SD or media.

The statement in red do not worry about it as the Liquir E is SDHC
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I would look for a Class 6 card, as they are much faster if you want to use it for App2SD or media.
OK, Thanks again, but....I'll have to wait, as 32gb class 4 is the fastest available @ the moment
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