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Old December 10th, 2010, 02:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi All,
I am new to this Forum and apologizing if this issue has been already brougth up. If so could someone please direct me to the Thread.

I am not sure if All Acer Liquid E users agree that the internal storage of 150 mega bite stinks. So what happens if this storage is exhausted?
I just upgrated my Acer to 2.2 Froyo (Fido) but not all Apps are transferable to SD. Is there a way to transfer apps, games to SD? I just downloaded a few apps and I am down to 90 mega bite.

Thank you for all the feed back to help me.

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Yeah this is an unfortunate thing about Android is that not all apps can be transferred to SD. The only way I know how to fix this is through root. Rooting does void your warranty (but there is a way to unroot assuming you don't brick the majority, which rarely happens, don't think I have heard of any cases of bricking the device with a FroYo firmware already installed).

I am using the Eclair Apps2SD method (the method I had with Eclair rooted). I have found this to be faster than FroYo's app2sd method. This creates a large partition (mine is 512MB) on your SD Card for apps/davlik cache. I have over 100 apps (including some big ones) and haven't even used up half the space.

To do this, the phone must be rooted and a custom ROM which supports this method of apps2sd must be installed (I am using Liquid Community ROM- LCR Community Rom - News ). If you are interested in rooting your phone, you can check out this section of the forums (it concerns rooting the Liquid A1 but A1/E, pretty much the same things work)- All Things Root (Acer Liquid A1) Guide [UPDATED 8/30/10]
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Thank you so much for the guidance, HustlinDaily!
As you already know I just updated my acer with the official froyo for Fido. If I decide to root my acer will I lose the functionality of Froyo? Does LCR Community ROM provide better/same functionality as Froyo? I have seen some YouTube video with totally different screen setup than what we are used to with Eclair and Froyo UI. Are these custom ROMs?

I will wait for your response. Meanwhile I will start reading on Rooting. Thank you, again.

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LCR-F=LCR-FroYo. It is based on stock Acer FroYo firmware (plus some optimized scripts, a slightly different theme which includes battery % on battery in notification bar, and alot of Acer's bloatware being removed)

(I think) it includes the Acer User Interface (or Breeze UI) which I am guessing is the one you saw in videos but can easily be turned off for standard Android UI (Applications-->Development-->User Interface). I am using the regular Android UI as I prefer it.
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Thanks a lot HustlinDaily,
I will try to root my phone and I hope that all goes well...
I will let you know if I was successful of not. Lets hope I am successful. So, after all the rooting when I am downloading any new apps it will automatically be stored on the SD card or do I need to transfer them manually?
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If you have apps2sd set up, they will automatically be installed on the SD card.
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Hi HustlinDaily,
I have downloaded AcerLiquidDrivers and when I unzipped it there are 2 files: x64 and x86. I was able to install x86 but I was not able to install x64. I get a warning that this installation is not supported by this processor type. Will need to have both of this driver installed? I am scared to go ahead with only one of those drivers installed. Please, advise. thanks.
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No don't think it is possible to install both. x86 works on 32-bit processots and x64 works on 64-bit processors. You are fine.
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Great! Thank you so much HustlinDaily.
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Hi,
I did exactly how the acer-liquid-malez-recovery at google code has written. I think everything went fine. I press any key after everything was done and my phone booted as usual. Then I did the button combo recovery and I got the triangle with explanation mark in it and the android man. So i took the battery out and booted in normal mode. then i loaded the LCR-F ROM at the root of the sd card. Did the 3 button combo and again i got the explanation mark. What did I do wrong???
I am so disappointed it didn't work. Please help.
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That little caution sign with the Android robot is the stock recovery.

Try installing malez-recovery again. Try using the one-click installer.
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I am sorry but what is one-click installer???

I just tried the installMalezRecovery_xxx_SCRIPT.zip way and again the caution sign with the green robot.
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My bad, I meant easy installer.

Downloads - acer-liquid-malez-recovery - Project Hosting on Google Code

Try the .exe one
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Oooooo did some reading around MoDaCo and found that there is some problem between MalezReovery and Rogers/Fido ROMs.

However, there is a fix- Rogers/Fido? Froyo Malez Recovery Fix! - Android @ MoDaCo

Follow those instructions and you should be fine.
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Awesome! Thanks a lot HustlinDaily. Will keep u updated on the progress.
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Yaaahooooo... I did ... A very big thanks to you HustlinDaily for ur guidance and help. I put the LCR-F ROM and everything looks great. Unfortunately i gotta run and no time to play to explore. How would I now direct my Apps/Games to my SD card?

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Hi,
I am not sure if you heard of this but I am not able to turn off the vibration on the keyboard. In the keyboard setting "Vibrate on Keypress" is not checked off. I am not sure if there is another setting to turn this off?

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If you use titanium backup, you can include apps to the rom which clears alot of space. I have about 200 apps installed, and still have 45 mb of free space
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I'm down to 20MB of space and I moved everything that I could with the official Froyo "Move to SD" option.

What is taking up all this space? There aren't that many apps left NOT on SD.

I have a feeling there are some things I can safely delete from internal storage, am I correct?
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Hey Stan, I think the best way is to clear Dalvik. I am assuming that you are not rooted so this might be difficult but worth a shot.

Turn off the phone.
Remove & Replace Battery
Hold down Volume Down+Camera+Power. Phone will vibrate 2-4 times.
Release, then hold down Power+Camera
Phone will boot into recovery. You will see a little Android robot with an exclamation point in the middle.

Press volume up then some recovery options will appear (not 100% sure since I use a custom recovery but have heard that this should work)
Search for a "Clear Dalvik Cache" option or "Clear Cache Partition" option and select it (I think you use Volume Up/Down buttons to navigate and menu button to select).

Once you do that, reboot the phone and then check how much space you have.

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For now I just went through all my apps and deleted data for those I don't really care much. Twitter alone had 23MB, I just had to supply it with credentials again and I'm back in business.

About 50MB free storage should keep me going for a while.

Question re Davlic - what will I lose if I clear its cache and where can I read a bit more about it.
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Best explanation I could find. Seems pretty safe to clear- What is dalvik cache?
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Tried "Wipe cache partition", the only difference is that after reboot in recovery mode it was Home button that called up a menu, volume up and down scrolled through the list and camera button served as "enter".

This is on unrooted Froyo.

Anyway, I gained only about 8MB, nothing compared to cleaning up old apps, their cache and data.

Is there anyway to access internal memory from a computer via USB? I just want to see what it is comprised of, two apps I have on the phone are inadequate for checking out access permissions and folder sizes. Maybe there's a better app suited for that.
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Hi
Came across this thread and wondering about rooting my phone as well.
Can you be a bit more specific about what is considered bloatware? I would like the added functionality of rooting, but am paranoid of bricking it (I have been using my phone for a week). Also, some of the apps that came installed stock on the phone I would like to keep.
What exactly is removed when you root your phone? While you are "installing" the root, do you have options that pop up to select settings and such, or do you need to be a bit of a programming guru?
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Came across this thread and wondering about rooting my phone as well.
Can you be a bit more specific about what is considered bloatware? I would like the added functionality of rooting, but am paranoid of bricking it (I have been using my phone for a week). Also, some of the apps that came installed stock on the phone I would like to keep.
What exactly is removed when you root your phone? While you are "installing" the root, do you have options that pop up to select settings and such, or do you need to be a bit of a programming guru?
Bloatware is all the random crap which Acer puts on the phone (Docs2Go, RoadSync, Spinlets, YouFooze, SocialJogger, Acer Registration, Acer Sync, Acer bla bla bla).

You can keep whatever you want and remove whatever you want (using Titanium Backup).

As far as extra settings and stuff, that usually comes through apps especially for root or through custom ROMs, don't really need to be a programming guru to operate it. Here is a nice thread explaining what root is- what is rooting?

Also good resources to read would be the MoDaCo forum- Acer Liquid - Liquid.MoDaCo.com - Android @ MoDaCo

Furthermore, if you do choose to root, best guide to use would be this one- The ULTIMATE Liquid thread - Android @ MoDaCo

Sorry for the late response. Hope that helps.
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Thanks Hustlin

Those were great links and great info, much appreciated.
I hope you'll forgive me for asking for further confirmation

The only reason I want to root my phone is to get rid of some of those preloaded "crapps" to free up space, and be able to freely move apps to the SD card and back.

Is there a "simple" root out there? I've read enough threads now - all with links to a root tool - that I'm a bit confused which one is the most up to date and if they all have the same level of control.
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Honestly, the best method I know of is MalezRecovery. It seems complicated but once you go through the steps, it is actually quite simple.

There is a menu within the custom recovery (the "System Root Menu") which allows you to easily root the device (I believe Root Method 1.1 is the most popular) and install Busybox (which apps such as Titanium Backup require to work).

There are one-click root programs which might work, I don't really know anything about it (never used it, for some reason, I don't really trust it because I have no idea what permissions the app requires).
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ok, all good
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Guys this is really weird, but I can upload Males recovery to my heart's content to my Acer Liquid E, but upon reboot, I find the plain old recovery menu!
adb, fastboot, both work great, report success, as does the phone!
Any ideas whats going on? Thanks!
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Here is my sequence..
Plug in usb..
adb reboot bootloader
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fastboot -i 0x0502 flash recovery malezRecovery_0.6.1.img
(reports OK)
fastboot -i 0x0502 reboot
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Do you have a Rogers Liquid E?

If so, follow this guide- Rogers/Fido? Froyo Malez Recovery Fix! - Android @ MoDaCo
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Do you have a Rogers Liquid E?

If so, follow this guide- Rogers/Fido? Froyo Malez Recovery Fix! - Android @ MoDaCo
I just learned about this thread -- I'll try it asap! Thanks, -t
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A few days ago I ran out of space to install apps again, actually I ran out of space to update apps, 10MB Maps update needed some extra room.

It came to a point where I can't compare video calls on Fring and Tango, I can't install them both at the same time, only one or the other, and I need to uninstall something like Flash first.

I realize I'm a very late arrival but I see rooting as my only hope.

What are the general steps if I want to free up internal storage? Will the bloatware like Roadsync and Social Jogger become removable via Manage Applications or should I install a ROM stripped of all this crap that never worked in the first place, like Acer registration? I wanted to be a good boy and register my Liquid but Acer never accepted my product number, not from the phone, not via website.

Do I understand it right that after rooting I should be able to dupe the phone into using a new partition on SD card as internal storage to place Davlic and cache in? Will I ever see "this app cannot be moved to SD card" message again?

What is the latest and safest method to root? It's been almost a year since people started rooting Froyo, half a year since most advice in this thread. I understand people on Rogers need a special approach, what about my Asia Pacific, non China version?

In short, I'm asking for general "rootmap" to increase internal storage and for any particular changes since those "how to root" threads has been written.
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I just restored the default order setting of my phone after having had the same problems as everyone else in this thread. After booting my intern phone memory is on 146 MB, where did the rest go? Are these 4 MB used by those pointless "SocialJogger" stuff, Acer puts on all phones? I'm now as well considering rooting my phone, but what are the following: "malez-recovery", "installMalezRecovery_xxx_SCRIPT.zip" (where do I get it, how do I install it on my phone?), "one-click installer", "titanium backup", "Busybox"; do I use them before, while or after rooting? How do I install them (Computer or on my phone via the Market??) and why do I need them (what do they do)?? And what is that: Rogers/Fido ROM? Thanks in advance for everyone who already distributed to this thread and those who might answer bei newbie questions daedeloth
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