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Old September 28th, 2011, 10:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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For me, I'd rather have this than all the other Android tablets 'cause the ecosystem around it will be vastly superior.

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Amazonís Kindle Fire will be a $199 7-inch tablet running a customized Android 2.1 OS for delivering streaming video and other Amazon content.

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WiFi, no 3G option
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1GHz dual-core TI OMAP processor
Display runs at 1024 x 600
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7-inch touchscreen with no multi-touch
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depending on how the Dev community handles it i may be interested in this.
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Great specs. I don't mind no 3G, but I really wanted it to have GPS. Would have been nice for travels, just feel my phone screen is a bit small. I'll probably go for one of the others, I'm sure there's going to be a LOT of competition!
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Two possibly dumb questions -

(1) Does "no multitouch" mean there won't be an pinch-to-zoom capability?

[ EDIT: Hmmm, despite the OP explicitly saying "no multitouch", the Kindle Fire is described as a 'Full Color 7" Multi-touch Display, Wi-Fi' on the Amazon page ]

(2) Is there a slot for microSD card expansion?

[ EDIT: looks like no slot according to the CNET comparison of the Fire vs the Nook Color here ]
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Quite interested in getting one for the kids - but I'm worried about the "Amazon AppStore" business. Is that how they're going to recoup the lost revenue from the fire-sale price? Will the Kindle Fire be vulnerable to the Gingerbreak exploit so we can root it if needed?
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I'm getting one, even if it doesn't get rooted it's a great price for what you get. Since I'm already a Amazon Prime customer this thing will be pretty sweet. Pre-ordered 10 minutes ago. Have a feeling my wife will want one for Christmas too.
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Since this thing is going to have Amazon Instant Video, does that mean they will release an android app for it. It would essentially be the same exact program they built for the Kindle Fire. Currently you can only do Amazon Instant Video on android with flash via a browser that spoofs a desktop user agent. If they don't release an Android version, I wonder if it would be possible to pull an apk from this device unless its coded to run only on Amazon's Android fork.
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Seriously considering it. i'm wondering if the apps from Amazon's app store will run on it. I know this is primarily a media consumption device with email added, but if it would run QuickOffice, it would allow me to do some limited word processing while away from my desk. And if it allowed printing via Printer Share, I would definitely be hooked.

Anyone heard about these apps or similar ones?
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i've also heard that the "android market" itself may not even be available out of the box. Only the Amazon App store which makes sense.


the real question here is will it be able to be rooted and if so how long before we can put CM7 on it. Then i'll buy it.
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Why are these so-called tablet makers putting out products running Android 2.3 (a phone OS, I might add) ?

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I order one along with the Kindle Touch 3G/Wifi can't wait. :-)
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Why are these so-called tablet makers putting out products running Android 2.3 (a phone OS, I might add) ?
Because Honeycomb isn't open source so Amazon probably wouldn't be able to create a forked version. This will all change when ICS comes out.
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Two possibly dumb questions -

(1) Does "no multitouch" mean there won't be an pinch-to-zoom capability?

[ EDIT: Hmmm, despite the OP explicitly saying "no multitouch", the Kindle Fire is described as a 'Full Color 7" Multi-touch Display, Wi-Fi' on the Amazon page ]
The Fire has two-finger multitouch, as compared to the iPad's eleven-finger multitouch. Some are complaining that this will limit the Fire's gaming potential. That said, yeah, I preordered one.
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Since a preorder has no cost at this point, I'll bite for now. I'm pretty sure I'll get it. Looks great for the money.
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I already have a NC that does everything I want it too. I'm going to wait and see what people can do with it first. If they release a 10" version and there is good dev support I might just make the change. Any word on BT capability?
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Seriously considering it. i'm wondering if the apps from Amazon's app store will run on it. I know this is primarily a media consumption device with email added, but if it would run QuickOffice, it would allow me to do some limited word processing while away from my desk. And if it allowed printing via Printer Share, I would definitely be hooked.

Anyone heard about these apps or similar ones?

I know the Amazon App store has a printer share app.
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Why are these so-called tablet makers putting out products running Android 2.3 (a phone OS, I might add) ?

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Save your money and wait 'til Dec.

Personally I'd rather stick with the phone versions of the OS since they have so much nice dev work put into them and the tablet OS is still pretty much locked down.
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No micro-sd makes this a very limited device with poor space options for games and media storage. Unless people only intend on using this to surf or use as an e-reader, best to avoid like the plague.

Yes, I posted this twice, since due to the low internal storage, people will assume it has an sd slot. It will also be less practical to mod the tablet. Then again, due to the lack of storage, why bother?

Amazon got stupid in their feature set.
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I read in the paper that all media such as books and video are stored in the cloud. Does this mean that you can't read a book or watch a movie unless you're connected to the Internet? That would be a bummer for travel.
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Didn't realize there was no card slot. Only 8mb and no slot, and no GPS, no way for me. I have 12 mb of MP3's... they say "free cloud storage for Amazon stuff"... guess that means you pay to store your Mp3's and movies.

I'll wait for a 3.2 device with slot and GPS, I'll bet there are many good ones by the end of the year under $300.
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Didn't realize there was no card slot. Only 8mb and no slot, and no GPS, no way for me. I have 12 mb of MP3's... they say "free cloud storage for Amazon stuff"... guess that means you pay to store your Mp3's and movies.

I'll wait for a 3.2 device with slot and GPS, I'll bet there are many good ones by the end of the year under $300.
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I was in Best Buy earlier today and picked up a Blackberry Playbook to get a sense of what the Kindle Fire would be like physically (since the size/weight/dimensions are nearly identical). Impressions: First, 7" is not a very big screen. I'm not sure how much web surfing I'd really do on this thing, as the experience might not be all that much different from my 4.3" phone. If nothing else, the price is right, because I don't think you'd want to pay any more than $200 for a tablet this size. Second, the thing was actually kind of chunky. Felt much thicker and heavier than I'd expected it to. I'm still inclined to get one, but may wait to decide for sure until I can play with one in person.

Edit: I should mention that all the other 7" tablets on display were equally chunky-seeming (I hadn't really looked at that size range before). I'm not sure why the larger tablets like the Galaxy Tab 10.1" and the iPad are able to come in so much thinner and sleeker, but it does seem to be the case that no one's managed a similarly sleek 7" tablet so far.
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The Fire has two-finger multitouch, as compared to the iPad's eleven-finger multitouch. Some are complaining that this will limit the Fire's gaming potential. That said, yeah, I preordered one.

The lack of storage space is what ultimately kills it for gaming potential.
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So, do you think this will work with exchange? Also, it states that it includes free cloud storage of "Amazon Content". I assume that means only content you buy from Amazon - it does not mean that their music storage servie (like Google music) would be free?
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I am getting one for the wife - just her speed I think...

I'll stick with my ASUS EP121 and ExoPC slates for me.
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I may buy one by Christmas time. I just have to figure out whether I want to sell my Galaxy Tab or my TouchPad. I can't justify owning 3 tabletty devices. I will likely end up owning one at some point. Even un-rooted it's very, very hard to pass up. I'm around wifi all the time. I have all my music in Amazon's Cloud Player. I have tons of books in my Kindle library. I will likely be scrapping either my Touchpad or my Galaxy Tab for this thing at some point. Just a matter of when. I will probably wait until it's out and I can play with it at Best Buy first though.
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I know the Amazon App store has a printer share app.
I sent an email to Amazon and they indicated all of the apps in their app store should run on the Fire.
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So, do you think this will work with exchange? Also, it states that it includes free cloud storage of "Amazon Content". I assume that means only content you buy from Amazon - it does not mean that their music storage servie (like Google music) would be free?
You can store a certain amount (5GB I think) uploaded from other sources.
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I read in the paper that all media such as books and video are stored in the cloud. Does this mean that you can't read a book or watch a movie unless you're connected to the Internet? That would be a bummer for travel.
I understand you can download books, movies, and music to the Fire (up to 8GB) and use them off-line. You can then swap with other media when you have a WiFi connection.
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I sent an email to Amazon and they indicated all of the apps in their app store should run on the Fire.
Can you cut/paste the text of the email? I'd love to see it.
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Can you cut/paste the text of the email? I'd love to see it.
I am glad to here you are very excited about the Fire just as I am.

I am also very glad to tell you that the Fire does support the Amazon Apps and that the Amazon Appstore actually comes pre-installed on the Fire.

This I am very excited about and I'm sure you are as well. I hope this helps finalize your decision on your pre-order of the Fire.

I myself have already pre-ordered and can't wait for the Fire to release.

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This device does not have 8gb.

500 mb is gone due to formatting

Several gigs for app storage

About a gig taken for OS, UI and stock apps

At best, there will be a few gigs for media. Not eight gb.
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I am glad to here you are very excited about the Fire just as I am.

I am also very glad to tell you that the Fire does support the Amazon Apps and that the Amazon Appstore actually comes pre-installed on the Fire.

This I am very excited about and I'm sure you are as well. I hope this helps finalize your decision on your pre-order of the Fire.

I myself have already pre-ordered and can't wait for the Fire to release.

Thank You for contacting Amazon!
I know I'm reading way between the lines here, but it doesn't actually say that all the apps from the Appstore will be on it. It just says that the Appstore will be there. Yeah, I'm really overanalyzing that.
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This device does not have 8gb.

500 mb is gone due to formatting

Several gigs for app storage

About a gig taken for OS, UI and stock apps

At best, there will be a few gigs for media. Not eight gb.
The same can be said for an 8 GB iTouch.
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Yes and they have more storage size options too. Not to mention the iOS footprint and allocation is less, so more total space.

Amazon its trying to be like Apple, but a smaller, even less tasty version. CrabApple.

My guess is they will not allow non Amazon apps to be installed. Just like Apple.

This further fragments Android, but at a more systemic level.
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Yes and they have more storage size options too. Not to mention the iOS footprint and allocation is less, so more total space.

Amazon its trying to be like Apple, but a smaller, even less tasty version. CrabApple.

My guess is they will not allow non Amazon apps to be installed. Just like Apple.

This further fragments Android, but at a more systemic level.
I still think they will sell tons and tons of these because the vast majority of people don't care. They want content (which Amazon has) and they want to be able to access it easily (which Amazon is usually really good at).
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No doubt it will sell well, but let us hope this increases competition in a positive, rather than cloning way.
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LOL... GB I meant. Probably pick up the HTC Flier on my way home tonight, at $299 it's a much better deal than the Fire (IMO), GPS, card slot are a must for me. "Supposed" to be upgraded to 3.2 "soon".

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That's interesting as I'm thinking of selling my 7" Galaxy Tab and buying a Kindle Fire because I don't need the GPS, I've used the BT all of one time I think and I'm always near wifi. I'm debating on it because I've got a CDMA Tab and I COULD turn on 3G at any time. Well, any time Sprint decides they don't need to sell me a 2 year contract at $60 a month just for data anyway.
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Sold my Motorola Xoom and pre-ordered the Kindle Fire. I really wasn't using my Xoom for anything other than web browsing and e-book reading so the Kindle Fire is perfect for me.
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it has a micro usb and mass storage ability. isnt that enough to do something like external drives like a sd reader
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Idc wat anyone says for the price this device is amazing 8gigs is all I have on my phone and I still have 2 gigs left as for apps when this gets rooted notice I say when not if it'll be even better
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Some of you are missing the point, but that's cool. The fact that it doesn't have SD, bluetooth, GPS, etc etc, is part of the thinking behind this device that's going to make it the first true competitor to the iPad and the first alternative to sell amazingly well.

So if what you're looking for is a computer in tablet form, the Fire is not for you. If the fact that it's not Google approved and has no access to the Marketplace is important to you, then the Fire is not for you.

This is an Amazon content device. It is for Prime members who want their content on a tablet, and for new users who want to buy into Amazon and Amazon Prime content.

And it will be a runaway success.

This seems to be a better proposition for those who want a cheap Android tablet. The Fire is not an Android tablet. It's an Amazon tablet. It doesn't fragment Android because it has absolutely nothing to do with Android, outside of Amazon's appstore.

Sorry if this sounds rough, but it's true. Sure, you can get it and root it and no one will stop you, but complaining that Amazon has decided to release a tablet that's all about Amazon's content and not about microSD and roms is just pointless.

Buy it, root it, make it better for "your" needs, but please realize it's pointless complaining about the fact that Amazon has decided to make money by serving the needs of the masses as opposed to the desires of the few.
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Some of you are missing the point, but that's cool. The fact that it doesn't have SD, bluetooth, GPS, etc etc, is part of the thinking behind this device that's going to make it the first true competitor to the iPad and the first alternative to sell amazingly well.

So if what you're looking for is a computer in tablet form, the Fire is not for you. If the fact that it's not Google approved and has no access to the Marketplace is important to you, then the Fire is not for you.

This is an Amazon content device. It is for Prime members who want their content on a tablet, and for new users who want to buy into Amazon and Amazon Prime content.

And it will be a runaway success.

This seems to be a better proposition for those who want a cheap Android tablet. The Fire is not an Android tablet. It's an Amazon tablet. It doesn't fragment Android because it has absolutely nothing to do with Android, outside of Amazon's appstore.

Sorry if this sounds rough, but it's true. Sure, you can get it and root it and no one will stop you, but complaining that Amazon has decided to release a tablet that's all about Amazon's content and not about microSD and roms is just pointless.

Buy it, root it, make it better for "your" needs, but please realize it's pointless complaining about the fact that Amazon has decided to make money by serving the needs of the masses as opposed to the desires of the few.
Yep i agree! I bought it because I want to primarily use it for my programming books and videos. Although i do plan to tinker with it after a while (when others have had success) i really could care less about it not having 1gb memory, cameras, gps, 3g, etc. I just wanted a cheap color kindle and this is exactly it.
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Pre-ordered on announce day...and still waiting for a Ship notice
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If I didn’t already have a Kindle I might be considering getting the Fire. I can’t imagine going without an e-reader now, but I still don’t know if I have a reason to get a table. The price point has made me wonder though.
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If I didnít already have a Kindle I might be considering getting the Fire. I canít imagine going without an e-reader now, but I still donít know if I have a reason to get a table. The price point has made me wonder though.
Early on, I was in denial. I said I had no reason to buy a tablet.

Now I own 2, and we've started using them at my small business. I do most of my work on it. I never touch a console anymore, and very rarely play PC games. It's truly amazing how much I can do on one small little device.
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I haven't preordered one, but it is on deck for a xmas present for my mom. I'm just waiting for the reviews to come in.
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Now I own 2, and we've started using them at my small business.
If I could find a way to sketch a floor plan in the field with one, I would snatch it up in a second.
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