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Old November 14th, 2011, 03:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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If anyone has one of these already.... is it possible to sideload? and then install gApps to get the market on it....

I realize it doesn't have an sdcard slot but if you can sideload.. you can then mail yourself the gApps to get the Android Market on it... then load up all the official Google Apps.

And possibly Dropbox to sideload more....

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From what i have read, yes its possible to sideload apps from googles app marketplace. HOWEVER, I also read that some apps crash on the kindle bad and some you cant exit as there is no home button.

So basically its attempt at your own risk. I know i plan to
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well.. if you can sideload.. what about sideloading an alternative launcher that has buttons? such as an Ice Cream Sandwich Launcher (which there is at least one I know of)
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well.. if you can sideload.. what about sideloading an alternative launcher that has buttons? such as an Ice Cream Sandwich Launcher (which there is at least one I know of)
I was just about to post a question regarding that. I, too, would like to know the possibility of loading a custom UI/launcher.

If loading apps has the possiblity of crashing the device, will it be easy to recover in said event? If so, I'm definitely going to try if I get one.
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if this device is any kind of popular, i'm sure Cyanogenmod will come to it and we'll have gapps
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The engadegt review basically said side loading apps was pretty unsuccessful. Probably will have to wait till custom roms are out before you can get a full tablet experience.
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I would think that the newest apps for either ICS or the latest of GB would cause it to run slow, but Froyo apps should be fine.
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I wondering if the offical Weight Watchers Mobile app will work on the Kindle Fire? It don't do anything fancy, it's just big and can't be moved to the SD Card.
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From what I understand, many API calls have been disabled in the UI the Fire is shipping with. But the bounty on a root will be pretty high, so I'm sure within a few days just about everything will be sideloadable as long as you're willing to kick the warranty to the curb.
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well.. if you can sideload.. what about sideloading an alternative launcher that has buttons? such as an Ice Cream Sandwich Launcher (which there is at least one I know of)
To get soft buttons you need more than a launcher. CM7/9 tablet customizations provide these.
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You're going to have to wait until it is rooted
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if this device is any kind of popular, i'm sure Cyanogenmod will come to it and we'll have gapps
Well.. you can most likely sideload the Android market onto it regardless of rooting it and cyanogenmod (which I would love... put some Ice Cream on that.. the code supposedly drops on the 17th)......

I'm thinking alternative launcher with on-screen controls (like the nook)....

Although this is underpowered.. it is more powerful than phones that came out last year.. and should be able to handle it.
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Best to buy this and just bookmark xda. Through root all things are possible.
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Are they going to lock this thing down like the iPad?
What about the bootloader?

Has there been any word from Amazon on rooting/ROMs/etc?

I'm not doubting the dev community, but everyone seems a little too confident.
I was under the impression this was a very tight proprietary device, based on how it has been presented by Amazon.
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Best to buy this and just bookmark xda. Through root all things are possible.
Already a member of XDA... and..... Ice Cream Sandwich sourcecode is being released AS I TYPE THIS.....

Kinda hoping for a cyanogen of Ice Cream for both this.. and my HTC Incredible.
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It would be nice if someone eventually gets it working, I'd like to download apps from the Market. I'm sure someone will though.

It would be nice to get ICS on the device too!
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Depending on what apps are available through the appstore there may not be any need to side load.
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Although no matter what the device is limited by its storage with a full blown ICS
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well.. if you can sideload.. what about sideloading an alternative launcher that has buttons? such as an Ice Cream Sandwich Launcher (which there is at least one I know of)

My guess would be a no because it doesn't have a literal home key so u wont be able to set it to launch it automatically
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My guess would be a no because it doesn't have a literal home key so u wont be able to set it to launch it automatically
As I said.. there is an Ice Cream Sandwich Launcher where you won't need it.. all the buttons are ON SCREEN: [App] Ice Cream Sandwich 2.4 Launcher - xda-developers
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The only app I really want on the Kindle Fire that is not on there is Gmail, the official Gmail app, and not have to go through the email client on the Fire.
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Supposedly all the apps you can find in the Amazon Appstore can be found on the Fire. I think the need for the Market is next to nothing for most people if this is true.
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The only app I really want on the Kindle Fire that is not on there is Gmail, the official Gmail app, and not have to go through the email client on the Fire.
I second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, and ten-millionth this.

Oh, the horror of trying to set up Gmail on an iPad.
I have to say, it is the main detractor of that device...

Other than the name. I suppose.
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The only app I really want on the Kindle Fire that is not on there is Gmail, the official Gmail app, and not have to go through the email client on the Fire.
I second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, and ten-millionth this.

Oh, the horror of trying to set up Gmail on an iPad.
I have to say, it is the main detractor of that device...

Other than the name. I suppose.
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I do want it unshackled.. I mean if the idea of just "get it from the amazon market" is the norm.. we would never root anything.. try other roms.. etc..

may as well just move onto the iDevices
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I do want it unshackled.. I mean if the idea of just "get it from the amazon market" is the norm.. we would never root anything.. try other roms.. etc..

may as well just move onto the iDevices
Then don't buy it. Plain and simple. If you don't like a locked down device that's geared specifically at consuming Amazon content, don't buy it. You're not in the demographic it's aimed at and that's fine.
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The only app I really want on the Kindle Fire that is not on there is Gmail, the official Gmail app, and not have to go through the email client on the Fire.
I agree, I'd really like the Gmail app on there
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androidforums.com/amazon-kindle-fire/445529-kindle-fire-won-t-run-all-android-apps.html

I'm assuming some sideloaded apps won't work at all due to Amazon's "crippling" of the API. And, if they're willing to go that far then I'm assuming that the boot loader is encrypted as well, making 3rd party ROMs difficult or even impossible.
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According to the CNET BOL video podcast, there is an option for sideloading.

As for Gapps, there's only a few Gapps I like personally. Google's native Gmail app isn't one of the Gapps I like at all! Since I wouldn't use the Kindle Fire for GPS, maps would only be good for Latitude. The native Google Calendar with syncing with Google Calendar is a must though!
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The Gmail app would be awesome, but I guess the stock e-mail app sets up your Gmail account as an Exchange account, so you at least can get push notifications.
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According to the CNET BOL video podcast, there is an option for sideloading.

As for Gapps, there's only a few Gapps I like personally. Google's native Gmail app isn't one of the Gapps I like at all! Since I wouldn't use the Kindle Fire for GPS, maps would only be good for Latitude. The native Google Calendar with syncing with Google Calendar is a must though!
The only Google app that I like and use is YouTube. I guess I have to get used to all the other Google apps when I get my Galaxy Nexus.
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I used this method.

How To Run Almost Any Android App On the Kindle Fire - How To Install Apps | News & Opinion | PCMag.com

It worked for all the non-sign in type apps including maps. Netflix looks good.

I have a Honeycomb tablet and wouldn't trade for the Fire but I can see where a ton of these will be sold to parents etc. Snappy device, great for movies and books, cheap.
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I used this method.

How To Run Almost Any Android App On the Kindle Fire - How To Install Apps | News & Opinion | PCMag.com

It worked for all the non-sign in type apps including maps. Netflix looks good.

Great write-up! I'm glad to know that LastPass and Dolphin HD work. After seeing disappointing performance from the Kindle Fire in comparisons against the iPad 2 and Samsung Galaxy Tab, I'm hoping that Dolphin HD would be faster.

Is anyone bummed that the Blockbuster app doesn't work?

Gmail, Feedly, and Facebook are probably my most-important apps that require logins.

Wait. LastPass is all about logins. How can it work?
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Great write-up! I'm glad to know that LastPass and Dolphin HD work. After seeing disappointing performance from the Kindle Fire in comparisons against the iPad 2 and Samsung Galaxy Tab, I'm hoping that Dolphin HD would be faster.

Is anyone bummed that the Blockbuster app doesn't work?

Gmail, Feedly, and Facebook are probably my most-important apps that require logins.

Wait. LastPass is all about logins. How can it work?
I think its just Google apps requiring a login that are the problem.
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I used this method.

How To Run Almost Any Android App On the Kindle Fire - How To Install Apps | News & Opinion | PCMag.com

It worked for all the non-sign in type apps including maps. Netflix looks good.

I have a Honeycomb tablet and wouldn't trade for the Fire but I can see where a ton of these will be sold to parents etc. Snappy device, great for movies and books, cheap.

I think I'll try this. This thread should be a sticky.
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I followed the instructions from pcmag and was able to install some apps I had on my phone that were not on Amazon market. You must place the .apk files in the root directory on the KF so that the installer can find them.

Posted with a KF running Phandroid mobile app.
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