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Old June 15th, 2010, 12:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default HOW TO: use Advanced Task Mangers auto-kill... please advise.

I downloaded Advanced Task Manager and read this article and it didn't really explain how to use the auto-kill function.

Of the five tabs, I can't figure out how to take advantage of it. I've been using ATK, but I'd rather stick to just one app.

Which one has worked better for you? And how do I take advantage of ATM's auto-kill?

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If you don't grasp the article (and that is not a knock, there is no reason for an end user to need that understanding) then just uninstall ATK/ATM and let Android handle it on it's own. It does a fine job

Autokill function causes more issues (and uses more juice) then it is worth.
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I figured I'd get that response, but those who know these things learned them somewhere and that's what I'm trying to find out. I understand the articles published about no vs. go, but I'm choosing to use the auto-kill for a few specifics apps that are causing me headaches... not ones that are system-related. I understand more harm than good, but only in certain "kill-crazy" circumstances.

Now... can you please help me understand this app better? I bought it, and I want to understand how to use it. I find ATK's "time-out" auto-killer useful, but like I said, I'd like to take advantage of what I paid for and narrow it down to one app, being Advanced Task Manager.

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1. Go to Preferences>Applications and enable AutoKill feature.
2. Either choose to auto end all running apps or just chosen ones.
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Szadzik,

I can't believe I just overlooked the Applications setting in the menu... :-)

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I can't believe I just overlooked the Applications setting in the menu... :-)

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Old June 15th, 2010, 05:42 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Go to the market>menu>downloads>ATK>Uninstall
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So you say you know better what I need than myself?

You a mind reader or something?

or maybe someone who simply has no clue?
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Old June 16th, 2010, 02:25 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Im simply saying your doing more harm than good using a task killer. Android does just fine managing background applications.
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Im simply saying your doing more harm than good using a task killer. Android does just fine managing background applications.
Sure it does. But does it know that I do not need Facebook running all the time because I do not use it at all? Does it know I do not use other apps?

No, it does not. That is why I use ATK. I do not use it to auto kill, but at least kill those app I do not use at all from time to time.
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Just saying Android will close those apps. And its not causing any harm running in the background. If it did.. Android would close them. Read up on it.. its quite interesting.
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Just saying Android will close those apps. And its not causing any harm running in the background. If it did.. Android would close them. Read up on it.. its quite interesting.
Read about it and still I prefer to close them myself than wait for Android to do it. When I start the phone it has at least 15 apps running. at least ten of them are ones I do not run at all. I simply close them. As for apps I use I simply have them excluded so all the stuff I constantly use is never affected.

As I said already; I have always preferred to control my systems and that is my way of doing things.
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I just say that because those apps will reopen themselfs and use more memory and battery than they would if they just ran in the background but to each his own.. If it works for you then by all means use it. As for me, i prefer not to use one.

You have a milestone? Whats the difference between it and the Moto Droid? Just curious.
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So which one of you gets more battery life?

I have been using ATK's auto-kill feature when the screen times out... pretty useful. I have set up my ignore list to not kill system apps and apps like my clock and Klaxon, etc...

I have to agree though, that coming back to the "home" screen, hitting the widget and just shutting the apps that I know are running gives me a better feeling for control. Android can drive, but I'll give it directions...

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You have a milestone? Whats the difference between it and the Moto Droid? Just curious.
Milestone is GSM and Droid is CDMA version. They only differ in the bands they support.
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So which one of you gets more battery life?
The difference will probably be marginal.

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Exclusion list is a great thing indeed.

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I have to agree though, that coming back to the "home" screen, hitting the widget and just shutting the apps that I know are running gives me a better feeling for control. Android can drive, but I'll give it directions...

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I only kill my apps once in a while, not too often as there is no point, but I am of similar opinion as you at to driving and giving directions.
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If you're rooted, download AutoKiller, it tweaks the internal memory manager avoiding many of the issues with conventional task killers. If you download it, try setting it on aggressive or extreme first, if you don't notice any issues keep it there. If you do see some issues (i.e. force closes, lag) set at a more conservative settings until you don't see any problems. (I have it set at aggressive and have had no issues.)
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I get about a day and a half on one charge but that also depends on what phone you have. Im using a Droid Eris. Also using a task killer seems to make the phone lag alot more than normal because it reopens the apps you kill. If i were you i would use the phone for a couple days with the task killer then uninstall it and use it for a couple days and see what works. I understand what your saying about being in control but just try not using it. Thats what it took for me to understand that it just runs smoother letting android do what its been programed to do.
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I get about a day and a half on one charge but that also depends on what phone you have. Im using a Droid Eris. Also using a task killer seems to make the phone lag alot more than normal because it reopens the apps you kill. If i were you i would use the phone for a couple days with the task killer then uninstall it and use it for a couple days and see what works. I understand what your saying about being in control but just try not using it. Thats what it took for me to understand that it just runs smoother letting android do what its been programed to do.
If you kill the apps you use it will surely lag. That is what the exclusion list is for and I have already mentioned it.
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No, killing apps like stocks,footprints, MP3 Store etc. That never get used causes lag because those apps just reopen themselfs. Close those apps wait 5 minutes and look. They will be open.
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No, killing apps like stocks,footprints, MP3 Store etc. That never get used causes lag because those apps just reopen themselfs. Close those apps wait 5 minutes and look. They will be open.
They do not, not on my Milestone. Why? Because I do not have these aps.

And apps that I never used and sat there all the time were removed from my phone completely.
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lol just do some research because you're obviously misinformed. Good day to you sir.
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lol just do some research because you're obviously misinformed. Good day to you sir.
Are you telling me that Motorola puts HTC software on their phones? I think you are a bit misinformed. Stock, Mp3 store, footprints was NEVER installed on Milestone by Motorola.
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Those were examples of apps that "never get used" obviously you have 15 apps that open on start up. They will reopen. Facebook... reopens.
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Those were examples of apps that "never get used" obviously you have 15 apps that open on start up. They will reopen. Facebook... reopens.
Apps that start up with my phone and do not reopen after closing:

AK notepad
Bedside
Calling Card Pro
Financisto
Listables
Milestone Overclock
Music
Root Explorer
Cachemate
Quick Office

These are the few I remember and also these are the few that I rarely use, so there is no point for them to be running, however long they run for, because I will not use them for a few days even.

Please stop telling me that you know better how my phone runs when you do not even have the same model, you are acting as if you knew how I use my phone and what for, but we both know you have no clue how and when I use my phone.
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It has nothing to do with what model phone you have. It runs android, and obviously you are misinformed as how android works. Im just letting the OP know how to get the best performance out of his android device and for some reason your chiming in taking offence. So do what you do. Use your task killer big dog it obviously makes you think android runs better with it. A simple google search will prove you wrong.
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It has nothing to do with what model phone you have. It runs android, and obviously you are misinformed as how android works. Im just letting the OP know how to get the best performance out of his android device and for some reason your chiming in taking offence. So do what you do. Use your task killer big dog it obviously makes you think android runs better with it. A simple google search will prove you wrong.
I do not have to search to know that Android puts apps to sleep depending on memory resources. This is not voo-doo, but common knowledge for everyone interested in Android a little bit and do not act as if you were the only one in the know - you are not.
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Well it seems you are the only one who doesn't know this.
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Well it seems you are the only one who doesn't know this.
Right, so I am wrong saying that Android closes/ hibernates apps according to its needs?

Nevermind, I am not gonna talk to someone who thinks knows anything about me while he is just a clueless boy trying to prove something someone, somewhere mentioned but has no idea what it really was.

EOT for me.
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lawl. Good luck with that.
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Well, I uninstalled all my task killers and will be using my phone for awhile without. So far, so good and the phone does run smoother. Although, does the Linux-based Android get corrupted like Windows when you download lots of stuff, etc... ? Does it build up? I'm wondering if I should do another fresh hard reset and just start over with all my apps I have now - now that I've narrowed down the ones I use.

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Well, I uninstalled all my task killers and will be using my phone for awhile without. So far, so good and the phone does run smoother. Although, does the Linux-based Android get corrupted like Windows when you download lots of stuff, etc... ? Does it build up? I'm wondering if I should do another fresh hard reset and just start over with all my apps I have now - now that I've narrowed down the ones I use.

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Thats a really good question. I could be completely wrong but i feel like in some cases it does. For instance i installed bettercut and changed some icons. After i did that it placed like 6 widgets one on top of another. Even after i uninstalled this kept happening and had to do a hard reset to fix.
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