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Old July 12th, 2010, 12:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So I stupidly installed the update to ASTRO earlier and now have awful ads at the bottom of the screen. I'd gladly pay for an ad free version but in the mean time I'm looking for a decent file manager (ad free obviously) that works with the 'upload any file' option in Dropbox.

Or if anyone has the .APK file of the old version (2.4.2) that would be great.

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EStrongs File Explorer should be good to.
Although they say that it is less advance then ASTRO.

Hope it helped, I to dislike the ad on the bottom. Hope there will be a paid version without the ad.
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Thanks. I tried EStrong earlier but it didn't appear to work with DropBox...
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So I stupidly installed the update to ASTRO earlier and now have awful ads at the bottom of the screen. I'd gladly pay for an ad free version but in the mean time I'm looking for a decent file manager (ad free obviously) that works with the 'upload any file' option in Dropbox.

Or if anyone has the .APK file of the old version (2.4.2) that would be great.
The description clearly and boldly states that ads have been added to the app, but don't feel so bad. The previous version of Astro will expire on July 15 anyway, so you'll only be needlessly suffering with ads for three days before you would have been forced to update or move on to something else.

I use it so infrequently that I prefer a version with ads as opposed to a paid version. I don't mind paying for apps, but am less likely to pay for something that I rarely use.
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The description clearly and boldly states that ads have been added to the app, but don't feel so bad. The previous version of Astro will expire on July 15 anyway, so you'll only be needlessly suffering with ads for three days before you would have been forced to update or move on to something else.

I use it so infrequently that I prefer a version with ads as opposed to a paid version. I don't mind paying for apps, but am less likely to pay for something that I rarely use.
It didn't immediatly said that in the description. Only after a couple of hours it stated it.

OT: You can use EStrong for file management and use a seperate app for dropbox.

-> Check out the market for the free app called "Dropbox".

Hope this helps you a bit more
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It didn't immediatly said that in the description. Only after a couple of hours it stated it.
I guess I was late to the party, arriving only after the description had been updated.

Apologies to suicida if I sounded like a jerk.
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Either way the developer deserves to get paid and if they think this is the best way to go about it then they should be supported. It's a great app.
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You can try Linda File Manager. I don't know if it handles DropBox but it has very similar features to Astro
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yea i went to linda myself, works just as good, maybe better, ill know once i play with it more...but so far quite happy...
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File Manager - Android app on AppBrain


But seriously, I see no problem with the app having ads. The guy made the friggin thing for FREE, it's the least we can do for an excellent file manager. (tolerate the ads, that is)
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See the thing is, I don't agree with the underhanded way developers keep doing this. This is NOT the first time this has happened.

First they make a decent app and develop a following, it's free and ad-free. They don't bother making a paid version despite MANY followers stating their desire to directly support the developers efforts.

Then, after the following has gotten sufficiently large, they shove ads in the app and don't offer ANY way to get rid of them (as in by paying directly). I have to conclude that the dev's do this intentionally due to the number of times it's happened. Basically put, the users of the program get duped.

The part that really annoys me (aside from how intrusive the ads can be, and often are) is if I want to support a developer I want to support THEM. Not the advertising company who's ads they tossed into their program. I want to support the DEVELOPER... Directly. If you're going to make an ad enabled program (especially if it didn't start out that way), then offer a paid version to disable the ads.

I want to support the ASTRO developer. But I won't use the program with ads in it after I've used it for so long without ads. If they come out with a paid version, I'll gladly buy it, otherwise I'll use something else. I'm honestly disappointed with "Metago" over this.
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See the thing is, I don't agree with the underhanded way developers keep doing this. This is NOT the first time this has happened.

First they make a decent app and develop a following, it's free and ad-free. They don't bother making a paid version despite MANY followers stating their desire to directly support the developers efforts.

Then, after the following has gotten sufficiently large, they shove ads in the app and don't offer ANY way to get rid of them (as in by paying directly). I have to conclude that the dev's do this intentionally due to the number of times it's happened. Basically put, the users of the program get duped.

The part that really annoys me (aside from how intrusive the ads can be, and often are) is if I want to support a developer I want to support THEM. Not the advertising company who's ads they tossed into their program. I want to support the DEVELOPER... Directly. If you're going to make an ad enabled program (especially if it didn't start out that way), then offer a paid version to disable the ads.

I want to support the ASTRO developer. But I won't use the program with ads in it after I've used it for so long without ads. If they come out with a paid version, I'll gladly buy it, otherwise I'll use something else. I'm honestly disappointed with "Metago" over this.
Well said and I agree.
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It doesn't matter that you updated to the latest version with ads. He puts Astro out with the BETA title and its use always runs out within a short time. I have a rooted phone with all my apps backed up so I downloaded the new update. I didn't like the fact that there was a blank spot at the bottom of the app (I use AdFree).. indicating where the ads wanted to be. After using Astro for a year or so I decided that the BETA label had gotten old and took the suggestion of another commenter and downloaded FileGo. The UI is better and it has no ads or BETA label therefore it has my vote. I have Root Explorer to work with my rooted files so this FileGo app is nice.

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note: The simple way would have been to charge .99 for Astro but judging from the comments in the Market.. it looks like Astro may end for real.
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Based on the comments both here and on the apps market I'd expect to see a paid for version coming out in a matter of days.... if the dev has any brains. I'm certainly hoping that will be the case.
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Well the only other file manager that works with Dropbox to enable you to browse for files to upload is OI File Manager so I've gone with that. It's a lot more basic than ASTRO but has no ads. As soon as ASTRO release the (inevitable IMO) paid version I'll go back to that.

I don't have any problem at all with a dev wanting to get paid for their work (hell, I would want to get paid) but to force ads on users with no other option to remove them is bad form. I've never clicked on a mobile ad anyway so the dev would get far more money out of me if I paid for his app.
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My guess is that the developer is doing this because if he releases a paid version, people will illegally download that version to avoid the ads.

This way, he's at least making some money with every download.
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My guess is that the developer is doing this because if he releases a paid version, people will illegally download that version to avoid the ads.
Well you see, In my honest opinion this is not a problem.
Because Google or who ever is in charge of the Android market FORCES us
to illegally downloadp paid apps because most of us cannot buy them.

It therefore isn't our fault if we illegally download something.
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I would pay a few bucks for an add free version, I'm currently tooking at Linda file manager to replace Astro. The only thing I really want is .apk backups.

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Because Google or who ever is in charge of the Android market FORCES us
to illegally downloadp paid apps because most of us cannot buy them.

It therefore isn't our fault if we illegally download something.
wut? Your reply makes me think you must be very young, and your parents won't allow you to link your google checkout to their credit card. Or is it that the programs you want aren't available in your region?
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Well you see, In my honest opinion this is not a problem.
Because Google or who ever is in charge of the Android market FORCES us
to illegally downloadp paid apps because most of us cannot buy them.

It therefore isn't our fault if we illegally download something.
No one is forcing you to do anything.
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I would pay a few bucks for an add free version, I'm currently tooking at Linda file manager to replace Astro. The only thing I really want is .apk backups.

wut? Your reply makes me think you must be very young, and your parents won't allow you to link your google checkout to their credit card. Or is it that the programs you want aren't available in your region?
You can't buy paid apps all over the world...
I live in Belgium (Europe) and like other country's we cannot buy paid apps.

Know the facts before you talk...

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No one is forcing you to do anything.
yes they are. If I can't buy the apps I want, what else can I do?
Wait 'till they allow apps to be paid in my country? That could take a year if not longer.


EDIT: here is the list of country's who are able to buy apps: http://www.google.com/support/androidmarket/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=143779

Belgium isn't there....
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i think Estrong has more features than Astro..
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You can't buy paid apps all over the world...
I live in Belgium (Europe) and like other country's we cannot buy paid apps.

Know the facts before you talk...


yes they are. If I can't buy the apps I want, what else can I do?
Wait 'till they allow apps to be paid in my country? That could take a year if not longer.


EDIT: here is the list of country's who are able to buy apps: Paid App Availability - Android Market Help

Belgium isn't there....
Easy on the attacks, we can tell your mad already.

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I realize it must be fustrating to not be able to get paid apps. Can you contact the appropriate Belgium authorities and voice your frustrations with them? Doing something in this case is better than doing nothing.
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If I can't buy the apps I want, what else can I do?
How about not using that app at all?

Hey, I can't afford a Ferrari because the local government asks too much tax on cars and fuel. According to you, I thus should steal one. It's Ferrari that suffers, or in the case of software it's the developer you steal from. It's not their fault you can't buy it...

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Here's something to consider: hop over to the Netherlands (or Germany, or France, or the UK depending where you live - one of those countries is nearby!), buy a €10 prepaid SIMcard there from Vodafone and use that to get to the market when you want to buy apps. Use wifi when you do that for the cheapest option. It really is not that difficult to solve!

Or... root your phone and install a utility that lets your phone be recognized as one from a country where the paid market *is* available.

Stealing the app is not the right path to go. Talk to google - they are responsible for not getting paid market up and running in Belgium. Read more about it here.
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Paid version available. $2.99.

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lol, I see that now. I've already been using Estronge all day, and to be honest, I like it better.
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How about not using that app at all?

Hey, I can't afford a Ferrari because the local government asks too much tax on cars and fuel. According to you, I thus should steal one. It's Ferrari that suffers, or in the case of software it's the developer you steal from. It's not their fault you can't buy it...

Here's something to consider: hop over to the Netherlands (or Germany, or France, or the UK depending where you live - one of those countries is nearby!), buy a €10 prepaid SIMcard there from Vodafone and use that to get to the market when you want to buy apps. Use wifi when you do that for the cheapest option. It really is not that difficult to solve!

Or... root your phone and install a utility that lets your phone be recognized as one from a country where the paid market *is* available.

Stealing the app is not the right path to go. Talk to google - they are responsible for not getting paid market up and running in Belgium. Read more about it here.
Yeah, I then have to pay fuel or whatever transport costs there are...
Btw, your example about the ferrari is different, it is available for you to buy, paid apps aren't available for me at all.

I'd rather not root my phone.

And would you rather use a free app while there is a full app available with more tools?

And to those who I might have "attacked", it wasn't my intention, if you did feel attacked, I'm sorry.
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Funny how this works...I've been using Astro for a long time and like it, and, I don't mind one small line of ads.

But, I tried out EStrongs, and I really like it!
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I'm with Blackvyper regarding Filego. After the dev was late releasing an updated beta for Astro (causing mine to expire), I found (and LOVE) Filego. I don't use Dropbox, but I think it'll be a helpful app as I use Homepipe and having the ability to drag and drop is nice.

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Yeah, I then have to pay fuel or whatever transport costs there are...
Btw, your example about the ferrari is different, it is available for you to buy, paid apps aren't available for me at all.

I'd rather not root my phone.

And would you rather use a free app while there is a full app available with more tools?

And to those who I might have "attacked", it wasn't my intention, if you did feel attacked, I'm sorry.
Several friends who live in countries without full Market access have emailed the developer directly, and had APKs of the Apps emailed to them after they paid for them.

The joy of being about to install outside the market means you can find alternative ways to get the apps you have to have. Besides stealing them.
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Several friends who live in countries without full Market access have emailed the developer directly, and had APKs of the Apps emailed to them after they paid for them.

The joy of being about to install outside the market means you can find alternative ways to get the apps you have to have. Besides stealing them.
Didn't knew that, thanks for the heads-up
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So does Estrongs Explorer allow you to copy and move files? I was going to try Linda but it looks like you can't move a file based on a comment I read??
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There's a Pro version of ASTRO available for $2.99 in Android Market now that removes the ads (it's actually a key file that you install in addition to the free version)

Bought.
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Yes it does, via Cut/Copy and Paste.
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There's a Pro version of ASTRO available for $2.99 in Android Market now that removes the ads (it's actually a key file that you install in addition to the free version)

Bought.
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Yes it does, via Cut/Copy and Paste.
Just to clarify... you can actually MOVE a file though? I don't want to COPY I want to MOVE. One of the complaints of another app was that you couldn't MOVE a file. I assume in this one COPY is also an option but I want to clarify that in addition to COPY there's also a MOVE option.
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Just to clarify... you can actually MOVE a file though? I don't want to COPY I want to MOVE. One of the complaints of another app was that you couldn't MOVE a file. I assume in this one COPY is also an option but I want to clarify that in addition to COPY there's also a MOVE option.
Yes.

Cut = move, Copy = copy.

BTW, it's a free app, so it's easy to download and try it yourself if you don't believe me

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There's a Pro version of ASTRO available for $2.99 in Android Market now that removes the ads (it's actually a key file that you install in addition to the free version)

Bought.
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Yes.

Cut = move, Copy = copy.

BTW, it's a free app, so it's easy to download and try it yourself if you don't believe me

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No, I believe you. Just wanted clarification. I don't like wasting my time and wasn't even going to both installing and trying if it didn't do this basic feature since I use it a ton. I'll go ahead and install and give it a shot. Thanks!
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I have Astro 2.4.2 although it says it's about to expire. How do I make it do this:




Will have a look at the Pro version though. I tried Estrongs but didn't like it quite as much.

I do wish these $2.99 apps were priced in multiple currencies. It effectively doubles the cost for me if it is priced in dollars due to bank charges.
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There's a Pro version of ASTRO available for $2.99 in Android Market now that removes the ads (it's actually a key file that you install in addition to the free version)

Bought.
Same here

ASTRO is one of those apps I have absolutely no hesitation in financially supporting.
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I do wish these $2.99 apps were priced in multiple currencies.
I agree, this is Google's limitation rather then any shortfall on a developer's behalf.
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I've tried Estrong, but still prefer Astro and I don't mind the ads. One of the things that makes it better than the others is that you get an actual thumbnail of pictures rather than an image icon. It's little things like that make a difference, but to others, it might not matter one bit.
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AndExplorer. Way better anyway.
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been using the free astro yesterday i purchased the key for the adds free version it still says authorizing purchase from yesterday... cant refund due to server error?? cant install cause it still wont download... anyone else having this problem??
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After using EStrong for a bit I can easily say I like this better than Astro. It's hard to explain until you use it for a while but the UI is just better. Things are laid out better and the way you interact with it just seems to flow better. I'm sure others will like other things better but for me I'm an EStrong user now and don't feel like I took a step back at all. IN fact I'm kind of glad Astro forced the ads upon us w/o a way around it because it forced my hand to try something else and I feel like I upgraded in doing so. I'm sure others will disagree but I don't really care to debate because you can like what you want but like EStrong.

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I've tried Estrong, but still prefer Astro and I don't mind the ads. One of the things that makes it better than the others is that you get an actual thumbnail of pictures rather than an image icon. It's little things like that make a difference, but to others, it might not matter one bit.
You can do this with Estrong as well. It's not this way by default though and I assume it's for quicker loading of larger folders with many files within. Just click the settings and select thumbnail and it will display thumbnails just like Astro did by default.
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You can do this with Estrong as well. It's not this way by default though and I assume it's for quicker loading of larger folders with many files within. Just click the settings and select thumbnail and it will display thumbnails just like Astro did by default.
Thanks, I'll give it a try.
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Can Metago make the Pro version available outside of the Market too? How about making it purchasable on an alternate website, so users outside of US can purchase it?
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Several friends who live in countries without full Market access have emailed the developer directly, and had APKs of the Apps emailed to them after they paid for them.

The joy of being about to install outside the market means you can find alternative ways to get the apps you have to have. Besides stealing them.
That's a great idea and I should add that it is always a good idea to check out the website before dloading an app. Many apps don't have good websites behind them and that's a big warning sign.
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Paid version available. $2.99.

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There's a Pro version of ASTRO available for $2.99 in Android Market now that removes the ads (it's actually a key file that you install in addition to the free version)

Bought.
They bumped the price up to $3.99 already.
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They bumped the price up to $3.99 already.
When it was cheaper, the description said it was an introductory price.
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