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Old September 24th, 2010, 10:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
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How good is the map coverage and how up to date are the maps compared to Tomtom, Navigon etc ?. I will be traveling around the UK.

What happens on the Desire if you receive a call during navigation ?
(At a crucial turning/instruction)

How quick is the GPS pickup ?

Does the £28.00 include free map updates ?

Is the live traffic information worth having ?


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Old September 24th, 2010, 10:45 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi an welcome.

Maps are pretty up to date on the journeys that I take around Somerset and Bristol areas even down as far as Hampshire, I haven't had any problems.

Not had a call come in at any crucial time, did have a text message which over ruled the CoPilot software until I read / cancelled it.

GPS is usually set within 5 secs from cold

I havent had to pay any additional for any of the updates which there has been a few since I purchased in June this year.

Live traffic is really good, it will use 3G to tell you of problems either in your local area or on your journey. I think it also re-routes you should the snarl up be on your main route.

I was very impressed with the service when I was travelling back from Hampshire a couple of weekends ago. I will look to buy the service again once the period comes up.

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Old September 24th, 2010, 04:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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How good is the map coverage and how up to date are the maps compared to Tomtom, Navigon etc ?. I will be traveling around the UK.

What happens on the Desire if you receive a call during navigation ?
(At a crucial turning/instruction)

How quick is the GPS pickup ?

Does the £28.00 include free map updates ?

Is the live traffic information worth having ?


Thanks in advance chaps

I've been using it for a few months now, and I think it's better than my old TomTom1.

The display is very clear and easy to read. You get Lane Assist arrows which is a real bonus, spoken instructions are very clear indeed.

I believe the maps are a free regular update from what I gather.

There are free Safety camera alerts, and these get updated free every week or two (over the air)


If you get a call or text, you can still revert back to the Co-Pilot display and watch the map move etc. You just loose out on sound cause you're talking on the phone!
Once you end the call, the satnav voice resumes.
Same applies for texts.


GPS pick up is very quick so long as you switch on mobile data too. This helps speed up the GPS triangulation. Normally it can pin point you in well under 15-20 seconds.


Like most satnav software, they can sometimes take you what it thinks is the best route, but not necessarily what a 'local' would take you on. Not any better or any worse than anyother SatNav software I've used to be honest in this respect.


I do find however, the software can crash, and does crash from time to time. It has left me missing junctions and stuff as I've not realised the map has stopped moving!
To get around this I switch off the mobile data once it's got it's positioning. This seems to stop the software from crashing - presumably the phone has trouble multitasking with widgets in the background??

I have suffered from crashing satnav softwares on my Nokias before, so this product is no worse in this respect.
The fact that I can stop it from (sometimes) crashing by switching off Data is a bonus.


I've now completely stopped using my car's built in SatNav as this is always upto date for maps etc, and allows full post code search, and nearby location search (petrol stations, shops etc) is really useful too.
I've also stopped using my TomTom in my other car too, as there's really no need to carry it around, or constantly pay for updating the TOmTOm maps.


I think you can tell I love Co-Pilot! One of the best things about the Desire for me.
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I love this app. It has never let me down driving around South Australia. Accuracy is better than the Garmin but of course it lacks some of the bells and whistles of a dedicated satnav device. Very clear display and the spoken directions are clear and concise through my handsfee bluetooth kit.
Like has been said, when starting Copilot turn on the network connection and the GPS and it finds the current location in 5 secs. Then immediately turn of the network if you do not need it and only have a small data allowance(200mb) like me. It never crashes on me with network off.
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Took the plunge and purchased it yesterday so far I'm impressed.

Installed on my 2.1 Virgin Desire.

Can I confirm that the text to voice option for street names etc is only currently available for Windows mobile devices ?
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Text to voice with street names works out the box, you just need to select *PICO* eng-gbr from the Language & Voice option.
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Hi,
I've also been struggling to get 'voice' for CoPilot 8, and don't see Pico as an option under the Language and Voice menu settings in CoPilot - there are many other languages, but not that.

Is there something I need to do in the OS to enable it? I can hear the pico 'demo' voice when listening to an Example under the Text-to-speech settings.

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no app to sd as of yet though
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Old November 7th, 2010, 05:51 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Little off topic, but...

To el_caro,

I'm going to assume (being in South Australia and using a Desire) that you're on Telstra?

Not sure if you've read the latest or not, but you can now get a 3GB data pack for $29 (ie, replace your $39 cap + $10 data pack with $39 cap + $29 data pack, = $68/mth for $400 calls + 3GB data ) )
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I have CoPilot and a handsfree bluetooth kit but when the voice speaks through the phone a second later it comes through the bluetooth speaker, am sure if you turn the volume off on the phone I will not here anything or maybe I am doing something wrong

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The fact that Co-Pilot sells the US version for $5 whilst the UK version is £24+ is enough for me to consider an alternative product!

Seems horribly unfair.
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Sygic Mobile Maps 10 gets good reviews
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serious question....is Google navigation THAT bad? I have never had a problem with it
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Main problems with Google navigation...
1) No ahead planning - you download data as you need it
2) Data charges!
3) No POIs!
4) Poor UI compared to a dedicated sat nav.
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Main problems with Google navigation...
1) No ahead planning - you download data as you need it
2) Data charges!
3) No POIs!
4) Poor UI compared to a dedicated sat nav.
1/ So wont spot accidents/roadworks etc?
2/ true pain in the ass
3/ Points of Interest? i assume?
4/ Meh

I think #1 is the main thing if thats what you mean...so i guess google wont alutomatically alter route if heavy traffic?
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CoPilot has a new update: If you have Android 2.2 you can move the app to the SD card

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no app to sd as of yet though
Is now. I've just downloaded an update that enabled it.

Increased available internal memory by 14Mb.

And it still works...

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The fact that Co-Pilot sells the US version for $5 whilst the UK version is £24+ is enough for me to consider an alternative product!
Seems horribly unfair.
It is not unfair. The European maps for co pilot are top of the line navteq maps ALK (copilot) buys from navteq one the best map companies. The US maps are old ALK made ones that are about 8 years old and garbage.

ALK is expected to offer proper maps for about $30 once they have enough US subscribers. ther $5 entry fee is a bait and switch for extra charge decent maps next year.
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Hi,


I have just clicked "check for updates" within the program on my desire, but it says no update available, where did you obtain yours from ?



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It is not unfair. The European maps for co pilot are top of the line navteq maps ALK (copilot) buys from navteq one the best map companies. The US maps are old ALK made ones that are about 8 years old and garbage.

ALK is expected to offer proper maps for about $30 once they have enough US subscribers. ther $5 entry fee is a bait and switch for extra charge decent maps next year.
Thanks, that makes much better sense
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