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Old October 4th, 2010, 06:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Will the Droids ever have as cool apps as Iphone?

I just got my Fascinate phone and am finding it to be far less then the Iphone. The Iphone has better games i.e. Ironman, you can easily download movies to it through Itunes, it has the big hitters in the comic industry DC and Marvel....the list just goes on and on.

Is it that the Droids technology is just inferior to the Iphones?

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Pretty dumb question, I'm assuming you're a troll but I'll indulge you anyway.

iPhone's are commercially huge, which means more people and companies are willing to dip their developing hands into it to promote their companies, make money from app sales, and remain in the public consciousness. iPhone's are well-made but Android phones can surpass them easily in hardware and software. If you're not finding the applications you want on your Android (though I doubt you have one) then you should look harder. Sometimes you actually have to be creative in your approach. iPhone users just want everything handed to them with zero customizability.

Basically, you're asking why Linux doesn't have all the same features as Windows, when in reality Linux has that and more, you just need to learn to look.
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So enlighten me...just how DO I get DC and Marvel comics on my new Fascinate? I'm not a troll just really annoyed by all these cool things I see that are ONLY ON THE IPHONE /endrant

I do understand your point that the Droids are more new and not as huge yet. I'm really hoping that in a year or less they will surpass the Iphone or at least get on the same page....it all kind of reminds me of the PS3 vs XBOX arguments.
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So enlighten me...just how DO I get DC and Marvel comics on my new Fascinate?
Google it, i'm sure you will find something. Just because there isnt an app for it, doesnt mean it cant be done.
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Will the Droids ever have as cool apps as Iphone?
Please see all the other threads identical to this one (also on every Android forum site I've run across).


It's anyone's guess. Odds are as Android gains ground that more developers will be attracted to it. Does a bigger app market and more developers guarantee that Android apps will be as polished or identical to those on the iPhone? Not at all. There are no such guarantees.

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So enlighten me...just how DO I get DC and Marvel comics on my new Fascinate? I'm not a troll just really annoyed by all these cool things I see that are ONLY ON THE IPHONE /endrant
Next time do your due diligence before making a purchase. If apps like the iPhone's matter to you then make them a priority on the list of things that you're looking for.


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Is it that the Droids technology is just inferior to the Iphones?
This is a very common mistake that people make. Android is different from the iPhone. Inferior/superior depends on what you're looking for. There are things that the iPhone excels at and things that Android excels at (and vice versa). As an example, show the the equivalent to Tasker on the iPhone.

If you want the apps and iTunes ease-of-use then the iPhone probably is a better fit for you. Selecting a smartphone is about finding the device that suits you best. Not shopping for the alleged "best device out there".
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^ Well said. I assume there was something about the Fascinate that attracted the OP to buy it instead of an iPhone in the first place? I myself expect that with time more apps will migrate over to the Android platform as sales figures for Android phones continue to climb. We are already seeing some of this happen in the games market. If the OP is willing to wait then perhaps the apps he wants will make their way over. If not, then perhaps it was a bad choice by the OP to get the Fascinate instead of an iPhone in the first place.
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Oh dear. I have an iPod Touch and I hardly use it other than iTunes (haven't bought an album in ages) and full version of Angry Birds, other than that the Androids fit my uses much better and it has real multitasking.

He probably thought the Fascinate was an iPhone, seeing that Samsung's Touchwiz is a copycat of iOS.
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Comics? Really?
Wow that is reason to switch to an iPhone...
Comics??
Comics.

Uh...

Isn't there an internet site for them? You know you can actually get an internet signal about anywhere on Verizon.?
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In the US, more people own an android-based smartphone than the iPhone.
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Once android has been around as long as iPhone then i am sure we will see vast improvements.
Your comparing a device thats been around several years longer. Give it some more time and i am sure we will see MORE development. Afterall Android users are not limited to 1 carrier or 1 device.
Also developers must take into consideration the multiple hardware platforms as well. This slows down development.
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I'm new to this forum and even I know the answer to this stupid question!

The hardware specs on most Android devices match or exceed those on the iPhone.

The difference in the number of applications available to each platform can be sumed up in one word...

TIME

The iPhone has been around for several years. The Android line of phones has barely had its first birthday. No one with any common sense expects the number of Android apps to match or exceed the number available for the iPhone any time soon.
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Once android has been around as long as iPhone then i am sure we will see vast improvements.
Your comparing a device thats been around several years longer. Give it some more time and i am sure we will see MORE development. Afterall Android users are not limited to 1 carrier or 1 device.
Also developers must take into consideration the multiple hardware platforms as well. This slows down development.
The iPhone came out in 2007, Androids came out in 2008, several years eh? Anyways, the evolving of iOS has been very slow compared to Android's, so much has changed with the Android OS.
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Well lets put things in perspective of what these devices are shall we?

The IPhone is a device with One-Size-Fits-All hardware designed for the "Consumer User", there is only one phone for the whole platform that gets updated over time, but it has a massive library of software. On the down side very little personalization can be done to the phone. IPhones are also sometimes adopted for business but my impression is that this was not the target audience for the device.

The Blackberry is a device with a more varied hardware base designed more for the "Business User" and as such the software offered is largely geared to that audiance. Like the IPhone is seems to lack any real ability to personalize the phone.

Android based phones have a VERY widely varied hardware base however from a number of handset manufacturers with a number of target audiences. For example HTC seems to aim more toward the "Consumer User" where as Motorola produces much "Business User" oriented phones. Software for Android phones are currently more limited then that for the IPhone, but not nearly as limited as that for the Blackberry, and the software can be highly customized and personalized.

So in the final analysis, Apple and RIM have far more focused platforms, they tend to do a limited number of things VERY well, but often can't be expanded beyond the scope of that focus. Android phones are designed to be less focused more customizable within the same platform and also has the foresight to let handset manufacturers focus on target markets they reach best.

As many have already stated, it's picking the right phone for the right individual. For me personal expression is important, it's why I favor Myspace Profiles over Facebook, and is also one of the reasons Linux is also more esthetically pleasing to me, and also why I prefer Android over IPhone or Blackberry. It's my choice, just like I choose to have a Qwerty keypad which is not an option on the IPhone platform.

Meh, it's all choice and excepting the consequences of choosing badly.
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The iPhone came out in 2007, Androids came out in 2008, several years eh? Anyways, the evolving of iOS has been very slow compared to Android's, so much has changed with the Android OS.
He said line of phones. Remember that Android has not had any real phones to be succesful until relatively recently. I do not think he was refering to the OS so much as the current line up of phones (dating back to Droid one on VZW), which is the first line up to be succesful in any commercial sense.

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Didn't T-Mobile release the G1 back in 2008? 2010 is Android's year, a huge boom of models and sales, but there were models from 2008 and plenty from 2009.
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There are like 5 comic readers for Android. Download the one of 'em, google the comics(CBR format), copy them to your Micro SD card in the phone, enjoy.

What else?
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The iPhone is certainly cool, no doubt about it. Bot, cool apps as cool as the apps for the iPhone? Well, considering what it takes to develop a great application, it seems to me that a developer will naturally want to create apps for the biggest market. I dislike apple, but if I were a developer, I might first try to get something into the app store.

Seems to me, developers will try to port their iPhone apps to Android, as the market grows, if that is possible.

From reading the web, it is clear to me that the Android platform is gaining speed and Apple is not the big dog it once was. Seems to me, as the Android market matures, you will find plenty of "cool as the iPhone" apps on the Android Market.

I think between the time Android flexes its muscles and Apple starts to lose market share, the biggest developments will be creative and clever court battles and settlements.

Then, something far cooler than android or apple will arrive and we will be asking the same questions. A good thing, because if we were immediately satisfied with what is available, nothing cool would develo

I love my Zio. Inexpensive, it is running an old version of the OS, with a fixed monthly data plan that will not exceed sixty bucks and owned by a clueless old fart with strong opinions. For example, lots of people like their phone but they want an app that looks like the app available for ibrand X phone. Whatever ibrand X is. They want other cool features of ibrand x, but for their phone.

People get their new phone and immediately, they want to Root it, not fully understanding what that is. Their OS is not good enough, they want another one, giving their phone very little time to make its bones.

Or they want apps as cool as apps on the iPhone and they are upset that they cant find them. Seems to me, we are never happy; again, a good thing.

I am not criticizing anyone, just observing human nature I suppose.

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I have an iPod Touch and I hardly use it other than iTunes. Androids fit my uses much better and it has real multitasking.
I also have a iPod touch and now find no use for it since getting the Android. I can customize the android to do what I want it to do rather than what apple wants me to do. I might add that I don't own a PC, I have a Mac so I am not anti apple. AT&T is also a big negative for me as their coverage in my area is terrible.

I do use I tunes on my Mac but I use doubletwist to load iTunes onto my android so the iPod stays home. Better options for audiobook players on android too. I have been using mortplayer and it is great. The few simple games I have seem to have better graphics than the apple device but I don't know about the functionality of more complex games as I am not a gamer.
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So enlighten me...just how DO I get DC and Marvel comics on my new Fascinate?
As has been said, you can download them on a computer then put them on your phone. I did this and I have about 100 issues of comics on my phone, ready for me to view at my leisure. Some of them are just jpeg's in folders, and some are in .cbr and .cbz format. Not to mention about a dozen books in .PDF or .epub. As for movies, same principle, though I personally wouldn't want to watch a movie on a phone, nor download one to it either.
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So far as I've seen with iPhones its all "Wheee look at my new phone. Wow! Its Awesome!!!"....then 3 weeks down the line, they're downloading an app to tell if they're a good kisser...

The main reason I went for an android phone was after looking on ebay. It gets a bit scary looking at all the faulty iphones.

True though our apps aren't as varied as iphones...but thats no big thing really though is it? When itunes has about 200,000 duplicate apps all to do with twilight/a-team etc.

And comic readers for android are awesome!
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Didn't T-Mobile release the G1 back in 2008? 2010 is Android's year, a huge boom of models and sales, but there were models from 2008 and plenty from 2009.
There was only one device in 2008 (G1 in October) which was released on T-Mobile, thus virtually no sales.

The next device was not released until July 2009 which was the MyTouch 3g (again T-Mobile).

It was not until October 2009 before devices were released on Sprint, then November 2009 before anything on Verizon.

The point the other poster was making is that the iPhone immediately sold over a million phones and several million more sold before the App Store was even released (July 2008). Android was not big until the Droid was released in November 2009.

Developers need to make money. They pay attention to numbers. There were enough numbers to get the attention of developers to iPhone when their app store opened. The Android Market opened in October 2008, but there were not enough numbers to matter to developers until November 2009.

This means developers have only been really paying attention to Android for close to a year while they have been paying attention to the iPhone for over two years.
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And comic readers for android are awesome!
I can't agree, so far the ones I've tried are mediocre. I much prefer to use the default Gallery to view them, since it has such smooth scrolling, switching and zooming (SGS). I've yet to see a comic viewer that was as smooth as this. So far they're either slow and unresponsive, or TOO responsive. Since I have so many comics I can't cut them all down into a series of jpegs, sigh.
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There was only one device in 2008 (G1 in October) which was released on T-Mobile, thus virtually no sales.

The next device was not released until July 2009 which was the MyTouch 3g (again T-Mobile).

It was not until October 2009 before devices were released on Sprint, then November 2009 before anything on Verizon.

The point the other poster was making is that the iPhone immediately sold over a million phones and several million more sold before the App Store was even released (July 2008). Android was not big until the Droid was released in November 2009.

Developers need to make money. They pay attention to numbers. There were enough numbers to get the attention of developers to iPhone when their app store opened. The Android Market opened in October 2008, but there were not enough numbers to matter to developers until November 2009.

This means developers have only been really paying attention to Android for close to a year while they have been paying attention to the iPhone for over two years.
And as much as I like T-mobile, one of they things the absolutely suck even when they have a decent phone, their marketing sucks. Verizon's Droid campaign marked the true beginning of Android. I consider the G1 and MyTouch the Android beta period. The iPhone had Apple's marketing engine to help it along. Even if you're an Apple hater, you have to admit, they are one of the best if not THE best company in the world at marketing their products. And good marketing almost always sells more products than a superior product with no marketing.
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I have learned a lot from reading from all of you on this matter. I have had my Desire for just over a month and love it. It is still a little battle when I am hanging with my buddy's with the Iphone. Tell you the truth I was interested in getting the Iphone as well but I like to do a little research and found that the Desire was what I was looking for. I am all about trying new home screens and changing up my music player and I can go on and on. I am always on my phone making it do cool things. An Iphone owner would say big deal because they can not do this very easy. I am not that big on games but it will be nice when the big game developers start pumping the games out for Android and they will it is just going to take some time. I have emailed a lot of company's that have an app that i want and that is out for the Iphone and they all say that they are working on a Android app... I am so happy I went with my phone and as I like to change everything on it all the time lol I am always looking to test a New Android phone in the future...
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As I know, iPhone is the best one in the market, though it has some infects. Android phones are truely powerful and more user-friendly, but the iPhone is the best one.
Simple query: Why?

You say the iPhone is the best one, so I ask you, why is the iPhone better than Android? Also, I will assume you mean defects not infects? When you make a claim, you should provide a few reasons why you think whatever it is you think.

I think my phone is better because it is less money, the data plan is very nice, it does what I must absolutely do, and I have yet to have problems using my apps.

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Simple query: Why?

You say the iPhone is the best one, so I ask you, why is the iPhone better than Android? Also, I will assume you mean defects not infects? When you make a claim, you should provide a few reasons why you think whatever it is you think.

I think my phone is better because it is less money, the data plan is very nice, it does what I must absolutely do, and I have yet to have problems using my apps.

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Yes, it has the GPs and the WIFIs.
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You know what annoys me? People who use "Droid" to refer to all phones running Android. The "Droid" is a specific model line of phones, made by Motorola and available only on the Verizon network.

Please get it right. Don't use "Droid" to refer to all Android phones any more than you'd use "Ford" to refer to all cars.

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These threads will always pop up, but most users on both sides of the aisle know the answers before they start typing. The iPhone is designed from the ground up as an Apple-controlled appliance. A very pretty one with decent hardware, but an appliance nonetheless. Apple knows their demographic thoroughly and has been generally excellent at providing smartphones for people who don't really want to know what a smartphone is actually capable of. And don't forget form Form FORM over function to the point of crippling it as a basic phone ("here's your bumper"). However, I will say that if my choices were limited to an original Moto Droid with the keyboard (not a fan of the keyboard) and an iPhone 4, I'd get the iPhone and jailbreak it. Fortunately there's now better hardware than either of these; most are running Android.

Is Android excellent? Not yet IMHO, but it's inevitable that it will be. Tasker is a great example of exactly what sets Android apart from iOS; iPhone users have nothing like it and truthfully most of the Apple demographic would have little interest in such an app anyway. It's a given that as the platform matures more and better apps/games will come because there's money to be made (which is another reason to support good Android devs with our $$$).

No doubt, Apple led the way and the iPhone *was* the best at almost everything by default. Those days are over, and the list of stuff that the iPhone can do better is much smaller and shrinking by the day.

My standard answer to any iPhone user asking why I chose Android:

"I need something more capable".
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So far as I've seen with iPhones its all "Wheee look at my new phone. Wow! Its Awesome!!!"....then 3 weeks down the line, they're downloading an app to tell if they're a good kisser...

The main reason I went for an android phone was after looking on ebay. It gets a bit scary looking at all the faulty iphones.

True though our apps aren't as varied as iphones...but thats no big thing really though is it? When itunes has about 200,000 duplicate apps all to do with twilight/a-team etc.

And comic readers for android are awesome!
I think a considerable part of the Apple fortune comes from people that absolutely must have apple and everything else sucks, period, end of story. The apple core if you will.

Some (many?) of these folks will tell you that apple is the best and everything else stinks, and they have very little knowledge about what they are talking about.

I bought droid because it was inexpensive and it dows everything I need it to do.

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I also had a Ipod touch and I just recently found the two games that were my favorite on the ipod in the market angry birds and homerun battle 3d.. so yes i agree Droid is gaining very fast on apple.... and man does the 1ghz processor run these games like a champ!!!!
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I also know just by being around people with the Iphone is that once you start putting money into it like games and apps. You are stuck with Iphone. You can only bring those apps and games to another new Iphone. I like having the ability to choose my next model. I just remember my friend the other day getting so mad trying to make a new folder for Pictures threw Itune lol. I still like the Iphone it is a good phone but I need a phone that will do more than just run apps. It has the best games right now and I know those big games are coming to Android so if you need the game right now then go Iphone if you want to do more with a smart phone go Android....
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I'm new to this forum and even I know the answer to this stupid question!

The hardware specs on most Android devices match or exceed those on the iPhone.

The difference in the number of applications available to each platform can be sumed up in one word...

TIME

The iPhone has been around for several years. The Android line of phones has barely had its first birthday. No one with any common sense expects the number of Android apps to match or exceed the number available for the iPhone any time soon.
The iPhone came out in Summer 2007 and didn't get apps until summer 2008, Android came out in Fall 2008 with the G1 and had apps so how is that several years??
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And as much as I like T-mobile, one of they things the absolutely suck even when they have a decent phone, their marketing sucks. Verizon's Droid campaign marked the true beginning of Android. I consider the G1 and MyTouch the Android beta period. The iPhone had Apple's marketing engine to help it along. Even if you're an Apple hater, you have to admit, they are one of the best if not THE best company in the world at marketing their products. And good marketing almost always sells more products than a superior product with no marketing.
I think the reason Android took off so slowly is because the first device was a piece of crap and the early Android software was not very good. The G1 didn't even have a headphone jack!!
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