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I am unsure the processing power would be adequate for a pull blown GPS experience. I do know that tomtom has created an application for the iPhone, so one may never know - it would be on the way.
Personally, I prefer Garmin
Although.... I feel the GPs hardware in the G1 is not very good at all - it never really works in any situation I need it to - constantly relying on Wifi/GSM tower triangulation to estimate my position. Essentially useless.
I do hope a fix is in the works.
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I have found google maps very accurate with the G1 with or without the GPS. I use the GPS to find my position then use google maps to get me where I am going and turn off the GPS.
There has been a TomTom app for the PalmOS for some time. Works fine on the Treo and TX models. The processing power of the G1 should exceed those units.
Turn-by-turn live navigation capability for Android seems inevitable.
I had Tomtom for the Treo and contacted their support. They replied that they have no plans at this time to release an android version. That was on Friday.
I think the application "AndNav" is suppose to do this.
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I am alpha testing AndNav2, and so far apart from a few annoying crashes (it recovers very well) and glitches, it seems a strong contender in the scatnav scene.
I am unsure the processing power would be adequate for a pull blown GPS experience. I do know that tomtom has created an application for the iPhone, so one may never know - it would be on the way.
i had an HP Jornada circa 2002 that had turn by turn navigation, so yes the processing power should be fine.
The licensing restrictions doesn't come from google, but from the map data providers. (teleatlas, navteq.. ) those are the ones that don't want that google maps can't be used for real time navigation, because they also sell the data to tom-tom, garmin, car manufacturers own navigation systems and all the gps device makers, and i think they charge a bit more, because every device has the full database on it.
The licensing restrictions doesn't come from google, but from the map data providers. (teleatlas, navteq.. ) those are the ones that don't want that google maps can't be used for real time navigation, because they also sell the data to tom-tom, garmin, car manufacturers own navigation systems and all the gps device makers, and i think they charge a bit more, because every device has the full database on it.
Google Maps is definately using TeleAtlas data ... because I have already put in street corrections for google maps through TeleAtlas ... we will see how long that takes to get the Maps Data base updated for TeleAtlas and then Google Maps ...
Andnav is definitely not quite there yet--the interface is confusing, and for some reason it no longer seems to support searching within the US (despite the fact that the graphic for searching by address is a street sign which says "New York").
The whole thing smacks of an amateur project, too...the guy who created the app went on vacation last week and forgot to update the betas, so they expired and the whole thing was unusable until he got home and fixed them. Definitely needs more work/involvement from more people.
Besides AndNav2 (which works quite good considering it is a free app) you also have "AnyNav" which is currently lacking in the GUI-department but that will hopefully change soon (??) and one other, commersial, alternative on the android market which i tried and which is really good (but also really expensive to use).
As for cpu power... I still use my old Navman Pin 570 (WM 2003) which has a 266mhz arm cpu and i run SmartST and TomTom 6 on it without any problems at all. Considering that Android uses a faster CPU (528mhz underclocked to 326?) and an OS that plays in another division than WM, there should not really be any issues when it comes to that.
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This is an old post TeleNav is the paid navigation for android. It can be a little buggy at times but and I still think Tomtom was better but Telenav works good for the most part. Best part is I don't have to carry a puck around to use the navigation. $10/month.
It does gas by price, weather, and search along route included in the price. Will find most businesses either by closest or along route well. Does not do offroad or mountain roads well and will not work without data signal.
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CoPilot Live Version 8.0
If your looking for a FULLY functioning SatNav application for your Android phone, it has to be ALK Technologies Copilot Live 8. This app is bursting with all the functions that you should be looking for in a SatNav app, but in the convenience of your mobile phone. What's more the version of CoPilot for the iPh*ne (version 7) is rubbish.
I have now been using the application for the last five days and feel it's £25 well spent, check it out, you won't be disappointed.
Personally, I prefer Garmin
Although.... I feel the GPs hardware in the G1 is not very good at all - it never really works in any situation I need it to - constantly relying on Wifi/GSM tower triangulation to estimate my position. Essentially useless.
I do hope a fix is in the works.
Have you tried turning off wifi location ?
I use GPS only and can get within 10 feet of where I am going.
If your looking for a FULLY functioning SatNav application for your Android phone, it has to be ALK Technologies Copilot Live 8. This app is bursting with all the functions that you should be looking for in a SatNav app, but in the convenience of your mobile phone. What's more the version of CoPilot for the iPh*ne (version 7) is rubbish.
I have now been using the application for the last five days and feel it's £25 well spent, check it out, you won't be disappointed.
I really like the look of this - some of the reviews talk about the complicated unlock procedure. There is mention on the product page about unlimited use only being unlocked after 10 days once your Google checkout number has been verified. How was it for you, Paul?
Waze is available for free to be used as a GPS for Android. The maps all user generated which means its largely incomplete. But if enough people get together and start building it, waze could be even more powerful then TomTom or Garmin within the year
I have CoPilot 8 too and love it, very good value for money. In my vehicles i use tomtom and garmin and yet i still find the hero with copilot 8 great.
Waze is available for free to be used as a GPS for Android. The maps all user generated which means its largely incomplete. But if enough people get together and start building it, waze could be even more powerful then TomTom or Garmin within the year
I REALLY like the looks of this, and the principle. Even though I live in a basically rural area, with marginal G3 even I am really a fan of this, real time traffic issues, police locations, safety built in.
You're right, who needs tom tom... jus make sure you check out the TeleNav software working on the android platform, whether you have an htc or a huawei... it's simply unbelievable, fast re-routing, traffic updates, maps of europe and hundreds of thousands of POI's, and it's all stored on their servers, no phone memory invaded, no need to change your SD Card..
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Hi alexpnn, don't know if you want what are usually called "standalone" units, like a tom tom or garmin, as their maps become out-of-date very quickly. If the drivers have so called "smartphones" you can use telenav, you can download it onto your phone, to me it's the best nav system so far, BTW you can have a free trial on each phone. I downloaded it from www.tnclient.com
Besides AndNav2 (which works quite good considering it is a free app) you also have "AnyNav" which is currently lacking in the GUI-department but that will hopefully change soon (??) and one other, commersial, alternative on the android market which i tried and which is really good (but also really expensive to use).
As for cpu power... I still use my old Navman Pin 570 (WM 2003) which has a 266mhz arm cpu and i run SmartST and TomTom 6 on it without any problems at all. Considering that Android uses a faster CPU (528mhz underclocked to 326?) and an OS that plays in another division than WM, there should not really be any issues when it comes to that.
regards
Daniel
I agree that processor power is not an issue with the Droid. My old HTC Touch ran TomTom 6 just fine.
You're right, who needs tom tom... jus make sure you check out the TeleNav software working on the android platform, whether you have an htc or a huawei... it's simply unbelievable, fast re-routing, traffic updates, maps of europe and hundreds of thousands of POI's, and it's all stored on their servers, no phone memory invaded, no need to change your SD Card..
TeleNav has a couple of major problems when comparing against TomTom. 1) If you have no data connection, you have no maps on TeleNav. 2) Voice Navigation is worthless on TeleNav.
I had TomTom 6 on my Treo 755p. I wanted updated maps without having to purchase every time I turned around so I subscribed to TeleNav. I found the voice directions very helpful on TomTom and very easy to understand. When I tried TeleNav, I couldn't even understand what the person was saying. I wanted to yell speak up but there was no one to yell at.
I thought it was just a problem with the Palm app. Also figured that's why Sprint didn't license it for their SprintNav. However, it's the same crappy voice on the HTC Hero. I suspect Telenav's compression routine for voice is what makes it hard to understand.
Either way, I'd prefer to have TomTom so that I didn't have to worry about not being in range to pickup a good data connection.
I'm waiting (impatiently) for Navigon's MobileNavigator, which is due to hit the Android platform "soon". I had it on my old iPhone and loved it - 'one of the best purchases that I'd made for that phone. Google Nav, in comparison, is much less polished and I'm not finding it to be all that accurate here in Tampa, FL. I like my Navigation programs to actually get me to my destination, not just within 3 to 5 blocks of it.
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I'm waiting (impatiently) for Navigon's MobileNavigator, which is due to hit the Android platform "soon". I had it on my old iPhone and loved it - 'one of the best purchases that I'd made for that phone. Google Nav, in comparison, is much less polished and I'm not finding it to be all that accurate here in Tampa, FL. I like my Navigation programs to actually get me to my destination, not just within 3 to 5 blocks of it.
I am getting impatient too...
Tried:
CoPilot - Very slow GUI, no POIs in Canada. Looks nice though.
NDrive - Fast GUI but terrible routing. Does not show the name of the road on the next turn!
Sygic - Generally unpolished.
Google Navi - Not available in Canada!
iGo - Looks like they are not porting the full version to Android - only their "lite" but more friendly version.
Aaarrrggg.
I used to have TomTom7 on WinMo and it is much better than any of the above. I hope Navigon's solution is better but I am already hearing that iPhone's version does not show the name of the road on the next turn, which is unfortunate.
Why would you need Tom Tom app when the built in Google turn by turn works just fine and is free. Unlike the Tom Tom app on iPhone, which is $99!
I agree, the built in GPS works fine. The only gottcha is if your in an area with no coverage. Being in an area where there is no service, it will not function until it can establish a data connection in conjunction with a GPS signal. Not a replacement for a full blown Garmin like device, but nice!
Google maps has accuracy issues here in Tampa. Several of the addresses that I've navigated to since I started using Google Navigator have been incorrect. Most of the errors have been no more than a few blocks, but that's still a problem. I prefer that my GPS get me TO my destination, not just close to it.
I've actually gone back to using MobileNavigator on my old iPhone, desipte the fact that I no longer have phone service for the thing. It's just currently a better app. I'm sure that Google Nav will eventually catch up with MobileNavigator in terms of features but I dunno about the accuracy issues... my work address has been wrong on Google Maps for months. We have to tell visitors to use MapQuest or Bing instead of GMaps, else they'll end up in a grove of trees.
It's not a question of "Android devices" but a question of the specific GPS app you're talking about.
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TeleNav has a couple of major problems when comparing against TomTom. 1) If you have no data connection, you have no maps on TeleNav. 2) Voice Navigation is worthless on TeleNav.
1.) Is an issue for any GPS app that downloads maps -- not just Telenav.
2.) Maybe on your device. Telenav worked perfectly on my Blackberry 8310. I used it without issues for thousands of miles.
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I agree, the built in GPS works fine. The only gottcha is if your in an area with no coverage. Being in an area where there is no service, it will not function until it can establish a data connection in conjunction with a GPS signal. Not a replacement for a full blown Garmin like device, but nice!
This is a good point. I generally like Google's product and I'm sure given enough time, Google will become competitive with this product as well. If it is available in Canada, I will probably start to use it. But because it requires data connection when you are planning a route, I would keep a backup GPS app that does not require online data connection.
so are there any android navigation apps that only rely on GPS (i think that nokia maps offers that) without the need for data connection (wifi , 3g etc.)? thanks in advance
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so are there any android navigation apps that only rely on GPS (i think that nokia maps offers that) without the need for data connection (wifi , 3g etc.)? thanks in advance
Just about all other GPS software on Android does not require online data connection. CoPilot, NDrive and Sygic are all offline GPS software. When TomTom and iGo becomes available, they too will work offline.
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Just about all other GPS software on Android does not require online data connection. CoPilot, NDrive and Sygic are all offline GPS software. When TomTom and iGo becomes available, they too will work offline.
iGo MyWay is available.. been using it for weeks alongside CoPilot which I have had since about August 2009.