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Old December 3rd, 2010, 04:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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You have to have Google Voice + GV callback + sipdroid (just an example) = Free talking via 3G (you do not use your minutes).

The google voice and call back app are pretty much no brainers, but sipdroid?? Having a hard time trying to figure this out. Anyone know how to configure?

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I've spent a little time trying to configure it, but the thing is, you have to already have some sort of VOIP account (be it Gizmo5, Vonage, etc.) and most of these cost money, and those that don't aren't allowing any more sign-ups.

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there are sip apps available in the android market (sipdroid). what about that one?
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I've spent a little time trying to configure it, but the thing is, you have to already have some sort of VOIP account (be it Gizmo5, Vonage, etc.) and most of these cost money, and those that don't aren't allowing any more sign-ups.

I purchased a Gizmo5 account on ebay for $7 and it was worth it..free calling with callback and google voice..
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there are sip apps available in the android market (sipdroid). what about that one?
Yeah, that's the one I've tried setting up, but it's not possible unless you have a Gizmo5 or some other VOIP provider.
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You can get 1 free VOIP number at Sipgate

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I see that you get 60 free minutes with Sipgate... Do you have to start paying for minutes afterwards? Any idea how much they cost?
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You can do with just Google Voice and GV Callback (free on the marke) plus making your Google Voice number a "favorite number" or Sprint @home number (for Sprint folks).

Without getting too technical, you use GV Callback for outgoing calls, and change your Voice settings (on a desktop/laptop) to use your Google Voice number as caller ID.

Toggling "Call Presentation" on the desktop completes the setup. Boom. Free incoming and outgoing.
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I see that you get 60 free minutes with Sipgate... Do you have to start paying for minutes afterwards? Any idea how much they cost?
No, you don't have to pay as long as you route all your credentials thru Google Voice. you should only use a minute or 2 confirming the number with google...if you notice your mins going down then you probably messed up somewhere.

Here's what you do ...

- Get a Google Voice number

- Sign up for a free account on sipgate.com (you will have to give out your cell number to receive a key to confirm your new free account)

- You will receive your 1 free number from sipgate (which will be a random California number for now)

- Go to Google voice and add the sipgate number as the number google voice forwards to. Also make sure the number is set as a home number

- You will have to verify that number with Google voice, this when you will have to install the softphone software by sipgate. Have Google voice call your sipgate number..and through the softphone dial paid just hit the 2 digit number given by Google voice to confirm the sipgate number.

- Now it's up to you on what app you want to use to make outbound or receive calls. I use a combination of 3CX Phone and gvoice callback. There are other alternatives out there like sipdroid, Linphone, Friend caller, GV call free, GV callback free,

*Note, you will need both a VOIP app and some sort of google voice callback app.

- Whatever app you use, you need to configure the settings. So for example, since I use 3CX Phone, go into settings and create a profile name.

- Your user name and password will be the Sip ID & password provided by sipgate and the external server is sipgate.com

- Once you input everything.. 3CX Phone should register and you should see a green dot in your notification bar

- Now open up Gvoice callback put your Google voice account details in and put your callback number...as your sipgate number. For the callback setting you can set it as always..or ask it doesn't matter ...up to you. That should be it. ( I have mine to ask every time)

- Make all calls like you normally would, there should now be a prompt to make it through gvoice callback. Once you make the call the 3CX Phone dialer will come up and you will receive an incoming call from your sipgate number, just press the green phone button to accept the call and Google voice will connect you to your actual call.

- As for receiving calls your contacts will have to dial your google number and 3CXPhone has to be running to pick up the call. To accept the incoming call press the green button on 3CX Phone dialpad and your connected with the other person on the other line.

Note* - If you don't keep the 3CX Phone app on (green dot in your notification bar) your outbound calls won't work and your incoming calls will go straight to voicemail. If you setup your gmail with sipgate, you'll be notified by email and you can download your voicemails to hear them

Last but not least , the call quality is marginal. There will be a delay when you're talking to someone and you might hear a slight echo. but if you want free 3G/Wifi calling, it's something you're going to have to deal with.
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hey shawn, i followed your instructions on an Evo, and now it's saying the google voice account has no funds. what'd i do wrong for google to start charging me?
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You can do with just Google Voice and GV Callback (free on the marke) plus making your Google Voice number a "favorite number" or Sprint @home number (for Sprint folks).
...or something like gvmynumber to route all outbound calls via your GV number with the calling circle approach.
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hey shawn, i followed your instructions on an Evo, and now it's saying the google voice account has no funds. what'd i do wrong for google to start charging me?
Are you in the US?

Under Voice Settings, are your calls set to forward to your VOIP Line?

If you set it up properly you should still have the $0.10 credit on your account.
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Are you in the US?

Under Voice Settings, are your calls set to forward to your VOIP Line?

If you set it up properly you should still have the $0.10 credit on your account.
yeah i'm in the us, and it's my friends phone (traded setting it up for his xbox 360) so i'll check it next time i'm over.

is that the only thing that could be doing it or is there other things i should check?

.:EDIT:. oh yeah, is it voice settings in GV, GV callback, or the phone itself?
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yeah i'm in the us, and it's my friends phone (traded setting it up for his xbox 360) so i'll check it next time i'm over.

is that the only thing that could be doing it or is there other things i should check?

.:EDIT:. oh yeah, is it voice settings in GV, GV callback, or the phone itself?
Let's see ....

Google Voice (PC)
- Make sure VOIP line is selected

Google Voice app
- Under settings, do not use google voice to make calls

GV callback app - Callback Numer = VOIP number, phone type = Home

Sipgate - Make sure it's set to standard routing to ring all phones, not special routing. Click on your VOIP line and select "test phone". It should ring your VOIP app (3CX phone or whichever one you use).

VOIP app - User name = *SIP-ID, Password = *SIP Password and External Server = sipgate.com

*These can be found under your SIP credentials.

You should be good after this.
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Shawn thanks for the instructions. I do have Gizmo (seldom use) and Google Voice. Do I still need to register with Sipgate to use GV on my Android? BTW, I'm using Sipdroid and I already have my Onesuite SIP account in there but I think I can still add one more.
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so i'm trying to fix my friends phone now, and i sign in with his username and password to www.google.com/voice successfully, but when i use the exact same username and password in the google voice app and it doesn't work. has that ever happened to anyone else?
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No good for us guys in the UK.
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so i'm trying to fix my friends phone now, and i sign in with his username and password to www.google.com/voice successfully, but when i use the exact same username and password in the google voice app and it doesn't work.
Is this a gmail account or a Google Apps account? You might need to use the full email address as the user ID for the latter.
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