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This appears to be something that happens only on HTC phones, and it happens to all keyboards other than the HTC Touch Input. Unfortunately it is not under our control but under HTC's. I've duplicated it on the Magic with Keypurr and other keyboards (but it's fine with HTC's own keyboard), but no such problem on the Milestone or X10.
Thanks for the reply, do you intend to find a work around for this issue on HTC devices? If not it is a deal breaker for me and I would assume for many others also. I am currently running SlideIT keyboard and I am not having this issue, I know you stated it is happening with other installed KB's but I am not seeing this.
Last edited by itisjustme; December 14th, 2010 at 05:02 AM.
We are working on a solution to this issue that should be ready for the upcoming free upgrade. I just want to clarify that when you say "reboot" you're talking about turning off the phone with a long press on the power button?
Like I said we are working on a fix, but I'm surprised to hear that it's a dealbreaker because most users power down their phones quite infrequently.
Yes I mean turning off the phone. The reason it is a deal breaker is because the only way to get a full charge on the HTC Incredible is to bump charge it, meaning you have to power it off every day.
I am and have been an ardent Swype lover and user, I have tried every keyboard out there and I always return to Swype. I am to the point where I just didn't think a better keyboard would be possible. Well Keypurr in my opinion had blown all other keyboards away including swype. My biggest issue is having to re enable Keypurr after daily bump charging but it looks like Keypurr developers are promptly working on a solution to this.
Keypurrtech, hands down the best keyboard I have used to date.
Last edited by itisjustme; December 15th, 2010 at 03:54 AM.
There seems to be a bug with "space after candidate." If I'm typing and notice a typo, double-tap the misspelled word, type a replacement, and select the word I want from the suggestion bar, Keypurr inserts an extra space after the replacement, even though I have unchecked "space after candidate."
This was the first thing that I have bought for Android. I installed it and made Keypurr my default keyboard and yet only the default keyboard is showing.
I went to the Keypurr site to raise a query but there is no contact link on the site. please advise where I am going wrong.
We are aware of the issue you mention and it will be corrected in a free upgrade soon. I hope otherwise you are enjoying Keypurr.
That's good to hear; I'll look forward to the upgrade.
Overall, I like Keypurr (although I groan every time I think of the name, it's such a bad pun). It's going to be an adjustment for me; I've been using Swype/ShapeWriter/SlideIt for so long that my thumbs have gotten very uncoordinated. I think once I train them again, though, Keypurr will be fastest because of the numeric/symbolic slides on the main keypad and because prediction is much more usable with tapping than with tracing.
One thought for a future feature: it would be very nice if the text in the function keys could have a few useful replaceable symbols. I currently use the Inserty app for this, but it's way overkill for my needs -- all I use it for is the date and time and a couple of fixed strings -- and it's kind of a pain to have to change the input method every time I just want to add a time stamp to my journal. If you could just add support for the date and time (in various formats, or even just in the current system setting format) in the function key inserted text, that would be greatly appreciated.
I have unchecked "Key preview popup" in the settings. I thought that instructed Keypurr not to pop up little windows with the selected key for each keystroke, but it still does that. What does this setting do, then?
Another oddity I've noticed as I've been testing Keypurr: sometimes Keypurr will get "stuck" for a couple or three seconds and I will get perhaps five keystrokes ahead of it. Then suddenly it will break loose and catch up (which is really strange to feel, since I have "vibrate on keystroke" set to "soft" -- the phone really buzzes when processing those stored-up keystrokes all at once!). I've principally noticed it after I type Shift I, although I couldn't swear that it doesn't happen at other times as well.
And I've discovered a shortcut that I don't think was mentioned in the tutorial videos on the Keypurr website: if you forget to capitalize a word, you can hit Shift before you hit the space bar and Keypurr will convert the the first letter of the word to uppercase for you.
Anything on getting it to display the word "buns." without multiple steps? Any word on getting it to accept new words, such as: kapiolani. These 2 issues caused me to unistall it. Also, though the app charge never showed up on the bank website, I was charged for it, got an email stated I had not been and I am still not able to balance - the cost of your app is what I am minus.
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Anything on getting it to display the word "buns." without multiple steps? Any word on getting it to accept new words, such as: kapiolani. These 2 issues caused me to unistall it. Also, though the app charge never showed up on the bank website, I was charged for it, got an email stated I had not been and I am still not able to balance - the cost of your app is what I am minus.
It's a bug that the word "buns" is not in the dictionary; I'm sure they'll fix that in the next update. However, I'll use that as an example for how to add new words to the dictionary.
What you need to do to add a new word is to type the word completely, letter-perfect, using the "slide-up" technique to get the secondary letters where necessary. In the case of "buns," you'd slide up on the "v" to get "b", then type "uns".
The exact rendition of what you have typed for the current word shows up as the leftmost thing in the suggestion bar at the top of the keyboard. If you just type "buns" normally (i.e., without the slide on "v"), for example, you'll see "vuns" at the left of the suggestion bar. Once you have the correct spelling of the word you want to add showing as the leftmost thing in the suggestion bar, you just press and hold that part of the bar for a second and you'll get a message saying that "buns" was added to the dictionary. From then on, you'll get "buns" whenever you type "vuns".
As for your credit card, I imagine that what you are seeing is the "hold" that is placed on your account as a result of tentatively purchasing the app. When you charge something, the request for authorization places a "hold" on that amount in your account. Usually within a day or two the corresponding actual charge reaches your bank and the money is transferred to the merchant's account. If the bank does not receive the actual charge for an authorization within a few days, it releases the "hold," which should make your account balance again.
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Another suggestion for additional features: how about slides for the function keys? Maybe sliding up on <- could be "Home" and down could be "Prev word" (control <-), while sliding up on the up-arrow could be "Beginning of document" (control Home) and down could be "Page up", etc. Also, you could have three different text strings for each function key with the "Output text" action.
Relearning to thumb type hasn't been going as well as I might have hoped. This morning I was writing something and wanted to enter the phrase, "Probably not in my lifetime." The first time I typed it, it came out "Pro ablution morning my lifetime."
I tried again, this time achieving "Probably not immune life."
(I did manage to type it successfully on the third try.) No knock intended on Keypurr; it's just frustrating that after several hours of practice these are still the kinds of results I'm getting. Hopefully it will be worth the effort in the long run.
Then, maybe I can try it out too.
But somebody ported Turkish android keyboard of 2.2.3, and it is great, I talk, it writes. Loved it, how could I miss that app before, I asked.
One request/suggestion though, I would have liked a keyboard with black/gray buttons. I am sure I am echoing some folks out there too. Personal preference.
I don't have any strong intrinsic preference between the light and dark keyboards, except for the fact that the secondary symbols on the light keyboard are gray instead of black. Since the secondary symbols are also smaller, the combination makes them too hard to see. On the dark keyboard, the secondary symbols are the same white as the main symbols, and that's the only reason I use the dark keyboard. I'd probably have stayed with the light keyboard if the primary and secondary symbols were both black.
I am using Keypurr mostly with one hand; say sitting down, holding a cup of coffee with my left hand, while holding the phone with my right and typing with my thumb.
There is no other keyboard that I have tried where you can type reliably, fast and comfortably with one hand!
One request/suggestion though, I would have liked a keyboard with black/gray buttons. I am sure I am echoing some folks out there too. Personal preference.
I picked up the new version of Keypurr this morning, but I haven't been able to find a change log for the differences between 1.0 and 1.1, neither in the settings dialog on my phone nor on your web site. In particular, you mention being able to insert date/time symbols into the function key text, but I haven't found how to do that: neither the menu key nor long-press in the text field gives a command to insert the symbol, and there are no instructions in the window text, either.
(Just a note -- while I was looking for a change log, I tapped the "Keypurr Keyboard" version number at the top of the settings dialog, and that displays the version number as "0.1beta". Thought you'd like to know.)
We don't have a free trial because the current Market return policy allows users enough time to determine if a product they purchase is right for them. As you experienced, the 24hr window was more than enough time for you do fall in love with Keypurr. When that policy changes we will make sure that there is a way for users to try Keypurr at no cost.
In the meantime here's how you set a function key to a date/time stamp: Keypurr keyboard settings> function key definitions> action type> insert date/time.
Ah, I see. I had assumed it would be something like adding a placeholder in the text of the key that would be expanded when the text was inserted, e.g., something like
[Added at {time} on {date}.]
would get inserted into your document as
[Added at 14:22 on 2010/12/20.]
so I was looking for the syntax or the command that would insert the placeholders for the date and time.
The other thing I noticed was that the date and time formats don't match the system settings. I have my date and time settings as shown in the example above, but what I get instead from the function key is something like
Dec 20, 2010 2:22:03 PM
I would personally be satisfied with the fixed string if it matched my system settings, but I would also note that if you did adopt the more flexible symbol insertion mechanism I described above, you could also use that to specify the format to be used, e.g.,
[Added at {time=HH:mm} on {date=yyyy/mm/dd}.]
to produce the string I described, regardless of the system settings.
Sorry, I've decided to give up on Keypurr. I just can't type reliably with two thumbs. The biggest problem is with the keys around the space bar -- I'm always hitting space when I want an "n" or the period key when I want a space. I'm going back to SlideIt or Swype: my index finger is much more dextrous than my thumbs, and holding the phone firmly in one hand while tracing with the other is much more comfortable than cradling the phone in my fingers and arching my thumbs over the screen (not to mention the fact that I'm much less likely to drop it). No knock intended on Keypurr -- I'm sure it's great for people who were already typing that way with some degree of success -- but it's not a "keeper" for me.
I will mention in parting one issue that occasionally happened with me. I have a Nexus One, and I imagine the problem has something to do with the idiosyncrasies of that particular digitizer, but it occasionally happened that I would slide up on a key and get the lower symbol instead of the upper (e.g., slide up on "s" and get "6" instead of "a"). When it did happen, I could do it several times in a row, and sliding down would give me the upper symbol.
I find myself using Keypurr less and less and only for one reason. I find using Keypurr to be difficult to use for password and name entry so I and up switching to swipe for that then switching back to Keypurr for the rest of my typing. Lately I find myself just not switching back to Keypurr just because its a pain doing so all the time. I find the slide up and slide down to be inaccurate many times making it difficult to get specific names and passwords entered. I am also going to put my Keypurr use on sold until Keypurtech and get a better way of this input ironed out.
I would prefer a manual entry button to override the auto text. Like on the HTC_ime mod - the xt9/abc button. This works much more effectively even if it means double clicking on a button for the 2nd letter or 3 times for a number.
Just trying it out now. looks good though, first impressions and all that.
Interestingly, I actually found this area a real strength for Keypurr.
For passwords, I just program them into the function keys so it's essentially one tap. Can't get easier than that! (And I have passwords containing numbers and switching back and forth between upper and lower case letters - try that with another keyboard!)
Hope these methods help - they have made my life so much easier!
The moment many of you have been waiting for is here: a full-featured free trial version of Keypurr is available on Android Market. Download it as soon as possible because it expires on January 10 regardless of when it's installed.
And don't forget to post your feedback here - we're listening.
Pretty interesting keyboard. Reminds me a lot of Cootek's Touchpal where you combine keys to save space & let error correction figure out which letter was meant. I fully agree that sliding a key is much much better then holding it down (something Touchpal does as well).
I also very much like the entry of a word then click & hold on it to save it - would like the opposite as well (click & hold on a word I see in the suggested words to remove it so I never see it again).
Oh - also like that if you completely miss the letter you wanted, auto correct can still step in sometimes and save you.
Anyway, I'll have to run some tests on this vs Touchpal vs Swiftkey.
Very interesting keyboard. I default to Swype, but I like the addition of the F1/F2 keys for customization.
At first I wanted to complain, as I tried to type the word 'traceability' with no luck, until I had to swipe up to get the correct letters. However, once I typed it, it recognized it the 2nd time no problem with no swiping.
I do think that there might be a need to 'turn off' prediction when entering odd items like 'pbwhite@gmail', as it took me many attempts before I could get the keyboard to let me enter that without changing it each time to PBS@ - a similar experience to entering 'traceability' the first time.
Finally, I entered it, but I'm not sure why or how it let me do it the final time.
All in all, a very fast keyboard with two thumbs in landscape - which I never do with Swype, so it will be interesting to test this out both in landscape and portrait for a few days.
Very interesting keyboard. I default to Swype, but I like the addition of the F1/F2 keys for customization.
Note that the other four keys are also available for customization: they just have the arrows on them as the default action, but you can change that in the settings to insert text or the date/time as well.
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I do think that there might be a need to 'turn off' prediction when entering odd items like 'pbwhite@gmail', as it took me many attempts before I could get the keyboard to let me enter that without changing it each time to PBS@ - a similar experience to entering 'traceability' the first time.
Finally, I entered it, but I'm not sure why or how it let me do it the final time.
This is one of the things that was not intuitive to me. When you type a word that isn't in the dictionary, the actual letters you type appear in the leftmost position on the suggestion bar. When you hit a space or punctuation key, the thing that is underlined will be automatically inserted instead of what you typed. If you want what you typed, instead of what Keypurr thinks you meant, you have to tap that leftmost item, just as you would for one of the other suggestions, and that's what will be sent to the application. That caught me out a number of times until I got used to it.
Last edited by wmm; December 23rd, 2010 at 02:12 PM.
On first use, I had an immediate problem with Handcent in landscape. As soon as I start typing the prediction window almost completely covers the input area making it unusable.
I am getting a message telling me to upgrade from the free trial! I bought the full app 2 days ago. Can someone please stop this annoying message from popping up. The market shows I have the full app installed and not the trial. PM me for my google details. Although I did email the address on the error message yesterday from my work address.
Have tried it for all of 5 minutes so far, but here are some initial comments. Maybe there are adjustments for these things (I haven't really experimented with the settings yet)
1) When flicking, it sometimes adds the next character above or below the target key.
Sure I would get better at this with practice, but there should be a setting that says if the finger never leaves the screen.
2) When using Colornote application, if I rotate to landscape, the word prediction bar doesn't leave any visible lines for writing notes. May need to scrunch the screen more in that one (or maybe it's a fault with Colornote, the title line takes up space, and this isn't the biggest screen).
Overall still trying to get used to the layout, wondering if it will become 2nd nature soon. Will keep trying.
On first use, I had an immediate problem with Handcent in landscape. As soon as I start typing the prediction window almost completely covers the input area making it unusable.
I am also experiencing this in my desire hd. Cant see whats being typed.
Sweet deal on the sale. I was still undecided on whether to buy it because I'm not sure I'll stay with it. But for that price, it's worth buying either way.
I think my biggest problem is getting used to letting it autocorrect for me. On my LG KS360, my backspace key got a lot of use, and that's pretty much what I'm used to. But the more I use Keypurr, the more I like it.
Amusing Keypurr story:
Was sending a quick reply to a text just before my (non-smartphone-using) husband and I left work. He glanced over and said, "That's a really bizarre keyboard... have to double-tap a lot?" I just said, "Nope. Watch." Finished off my text without once needing to swipe or backspace. He's silent for a moment, then "Yeah... that's pretty cool."
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I've been tempted to shell out for Keypurr! I've downloaded it from the market and paid for it - and I've rebooted the phone (Desire). I can open the app - showing me all of the options, but the keyboard isn't there. Even if I use the 'Click for text testing', the default keyboard comes up. If I long press on a text box outside the program and choose 'Select Input Method', only Swype and the original keyboard show up.
Am I missing something?
maccboy
EDIT: Found it! I've never had to go into the Language options to enable a keyboard before! Playtime!
Last edited by maccboy; December 31st, 2010 at 04:04 AM.
Reason: Found it!
Is it possible to assign the voice-to-text feature to one of the function keys, or to bring up the microphone icon?
The more we use Keypurr the more we like it so far, but the voice-to-text button is something we miss. Would be nice to have a shortcut within Keypurr.
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The issue mentioned in the review regarding landscape mode has been fixed in the latest release (1.2). When typing in landscape the text box will always remain clearly visible.[/QUOTE]
I still cant see what im typing in landscape when the function keys are showing on my Droid Incredible. Most of the time I use portrait to type so this isnt a big deal for me. I just wanted to let you know. I am really happy with this keyboard and I have purchased the paid version. If not for the trial version, I probably wouldnt have given this a try especially with the new 15 minute return policy. Thank you.
For the fix to work you may need to go into settings>manage applications>keypurr keyboard and select clear data. Your dictionary additions will not be deleted. Let me know if this doesn't work.
Just installed Keypurr a few days ago without knowing the free trial will end tomorrow! I like the big keys but it does take a while to get used to. If not read through all the posts here, but wonder why there are so many non-words that are the first choice? When I typed the, it's usually rhe unless I select the correct word. I find that a chore compared to to Gingerbread keyboard. But you've got a great product...if only I have more time to try and convince myself this is what I need.
I just installed Keypurr a couple of days ago and so far, so good. I've spent the evening doing time trials comparing Keypurr, the stock Android keyboard, and Ultra Keyboard (a swyping keyboard I'd been using before keypurr). I may detail the results in another message (Keypurr won, a bit faster than the stock keyboard, and Ultra was way behind, both in time and accuracy, which surprised me).
I do have one question at this point. I noted that it was recommended to enter things such as your email address into the dictionary. However, when I try to do so, Keypurr quits recognizing the email address as a single word as soon as I type "@", and then again as soon as I type ".". So, I can't figure out how to enter "myname@gmail.com" in the dictionary, since Keypurr seems to think I've started a new word after "@" and again after ".". What am I doing wrong here?
My speed and accuracy in Keypurr seem to break down when I'm typing a lot of abbreviations or slang or words with backslashes. I'm still learning when to switch from just typing, to paying attention to swyping up on the necessary keys on irregular words, abbreviations, etc.
But overall I'm pleased. I'm typing a little faster in portrait with Keypurr than I can in landscape with the stock keyboard. I expect to keep improving as I keep learning the punctuation keys and get more words entered into the dictionary.
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I've used it for a couple weeks and enjoyed using it until I have to type irregular words. I just couldn't get used to swiping/flicking of the letters/symbols. It would take me an average of 5 swipes to get the proper letter.
So really, the use of the word "flick" is actually the wrong word - "short slide" would be more appropriate
Thank you - I've been struggling with the 'flick' as I usually end up pressing the key, and getting the main letter. Probably a carryover because my main goto keyboard is actually MessagEase. Keypurr may be the keyboard that can convince me to use a qwerty layout on my phone, though.
I just read this post today and wanted to try Keypurr, but I'm afraid this 15 minute policy is relatively short. I just missed the trial version deadline. Is there a possibility of a trial version coming out again?
I'm not really willing to splurge money only to have me frantically trying the keyboard with a cooking timer beside me, only to ring obtrusively in order for me to decide if I want to keep the keyboard or return it.
I was surprised too! I started using SlideIT and I just did the same comparison myself (not that I didn't believe you, just wanted to see how it worked for me ). I think sliding/swiping kept me busy so I didn't notice how slow it is, until I actually compared.
I'd be interested in seeing some actual user comparisons, using a swyping keyboard and something like Keypurr. For all the claims people make about speed on swyping, I'm curious what an objective test would show. It was interesting that my perception of greater speed with swyping (and it sounds like yours too) wasn't borne when testing it out. Maybe the Keypurr folks should promote a "Take the Challenge" kind of test. I saw the so called speed record set on Swype awhile back (back when I was using a swyping keyboard), and I thought it was a little bit of a parlor trick - they used text that included some long and complicated words, which are very advantageous for a swyper, as long as those words are in the dictionary. Not saying a good swyper isn't really fast and couldn't wax my behind, but in a real world test for the average person with a representative number of short and medium words, I'm curious whether the swyping advantage I keep hearing about would show up as that strongly.
Meanwhile, I'll be gradually entering all my irregular words and acronyms and abbreviations into the Keypurr dictionary, and learning to short slide the G in "got" so not to end up with "for".
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Since this thread is titled: Keypurr Feedback, I thought I would leave you with my thoughts as well.
I downloaded three different keyboards from the market:
Better Keyboard
Smart Keyboard
Keypurr
I gave each of them a fair chance, using them at least a week each. The most difficult one for me to use was Keypurr. It was a very frustrating experience for me and I I didn't like anything about it actually. (Apologies to those of you who love it!)
I liked Smart Keyboard but there were some issues with it that I didn't like that much either. But it was actually very close in between Better Keyboard and Smart Keyboard.
Better Keyboard won out for a couple of reasons. One: It has wider keys in landscape view and it has a row of frequently used symbols up at the top of the keyboard which makes puncuation very easy.
Also, the voice feature works great.
It's very elegant looking as well, IMO.
So...there ya go! Another feedback!
PS....I don't care much for Swype. I text fast and accurately and Swype actually slows me down.