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Old January 6th, 2011, 06:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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http://lifehacker.com/5727669/how-to-stop-launcherpro-from-bricking-your-phone
Someone posted a question about this a few days ago, and I replied that he must have been mistaken. Turns out that he was right - there's a hidden timer in launcherpro.

So far this only affects user who did not pay for the license. But this is just ridiculous. Unless if the developer comes out soon to apologise, I am moving over to zeam launcher.

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Default Has your launcher pro expired? Read this lifehacker article.

This is why I uninstalled LP and started a thread about it over on the Huawei Ascend Forum. It was very erratic acting and so I purchased the LauncherPro Plus version and it never worked at all for me. I cleared my cache and did all the things it said to do. I uninstalled the first LP and my phone worked great again. I'm glad I did and I tried to let others know of my unfortunate experience.

I am going to stay far away from LauncherPro. I wasted my money but live and learn. I hope everyone having problems can figure out how to get it fixed.
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They won't do anything for you, it's a 3rd party app, so they wouldn't consider it their problem. They would most likely tell you to do a hard reset of your phone (thus losing everything).

See my post above. If you can get in to the Applications Manager, you can stop LP from being the default launcher. Go back to your original home launcher, then go to the Marketplace and update LP.

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Hmmm.... just looked in to the marketplace listing (link above) and it seems a lot of people have this problem. It is possible the marketplace update won't work anymore if people didn't update before the expiration?

At this point, your best bet seems to be if you can get in to Application Manager you can uninstall LP. Otherwise, you might have to do a hard reset if you can get to it.
That is who I purchased my LauncherPro Plus from just yesterday and it failed to download for me or do anything at all. This was just a few minutes after I had downloaded LauncherPro Free version from the same person. It seemed to corrupt my screen and not being familiar with it I dumped it and made an attempt to warn others over on the Huawei Ascend forum since that's the phone I have.

I think I will try the ADW ex that others are recommending and see how it looks. Thanks for posting this here!
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You know, I'm not defending Fede's boneheaded actions here, but I have to say, you can have a stable installation of LauncherPro that doesn't have any of these problems - I do. I never installed a beta version, I downloaded the free version and paid via PayPal to get a registration number, and I've never had any of these issues. It's a great launcher, if it's stable on your phone. I've got GO Launcher, and it's ok, but LP is still my favorite.
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You know, I'm not defending Fede's boneheaded actions here, but I have to say, you can have a stable installation of LauncherPro that doesn't have any of these problems - I do. I never installed a beta version, I downloaded the free version and paid via PayPal to get a registration number, and I've never had any of these issues. It's a great launcher, if it's stable on your phone. I've got GO Launcher, and it's ok, but LP is still my favorite.
Hmmmmmm....that is interesting. LP is the only app I have downloaded since I got my phone over a month ago that I've had a problem with. I bought the pro version through Paypal so I hope I can get a refund. If not, I'll just chalk it up to experience. It could be that no matter what it just isn't stable on my little Ascend. I took a look at the ADV Ex and the demos you can see at the Market didn't excite me enough to purchase it. Do you mind if I ask you why you are using GO Launcher instead of LP, if that is your favorite? Is it not compatible with your Captivate?

So far I like the way my Ascend looks without a different launcher but maybe I'm missing something.

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Free versions expire for mainly two reasons:

1) To avoid having to offer support for outdated versions. It makes matters a lot more complex if you have to try and solve someone's problem if they are using an old version. I haven't kept the source code for old versions so I cannot see what would cause the problem (and since the problem might have been fixed in a later update, there's obviously no need to look for a solution).

2) In case I ever decide to sell LauncherPro (as a whole) to a company, or if I decide to stop offering a free version, it wouldn't be good to have a bunch of free versions floating around.

Anyways...got to say I'm quite disapointed in Fede with the way he's dealt with this.
Wow....not a great idea to be talking like that. Does not exactly breed confidence for new users...
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I was able to work my way into the LauncherPro forums and found LauncherPro's developer, Federico's, most recent post. He hasn't posted anything in the forums since December 24th. There was only 1 person out of the 16868 members online (That memeber was me) and there were 3 guests, so there is definitely something more than just the lock-ups going on here.

Anyways, Federico's post was indeed about the lock-ups, though it was of no help and addressed no issues about the lock-ups. Here is his quote posted at 8:56 PM on January 6th. (His time zone is 6 hours ahead of US Central Time/5 hours ahead of US Eastern Time.)

| Re: "This version of LauncherPro has expired"
| by Fede » Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:56 am
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| The expiration was removed in 0.8.2 and will not be included in any future releases.
| Sorry for any inconvenience.

So, hopefully we'll see something else from him explaining in more detail why exactly he put in an expiration in his earlier LauncherPro versions. Hope everyone is getting this issue worked out before any serious problems occur in their lives. I know the feeling: getting a late night call from my technology-illiterate sister freaking out about her phone being broken.

Good luck everyone!
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I was able to work my way into the LauncherPro forums and found LauncherPro's developer, Federico's, most recent post. He hasn't posted anything in the forums since December 24th. There was only 1 person out of the 16868 members online (That memeber was me) and there were 3 guests, so there is definitely something more than just the lock-ups going on here.

Anyways, Federico's post was indeed about the lock-ups, though it was of no help and addressed no issues about the lock-ups. Here is his quote posted at 8:56 PM on January 6th. (His time zone is 6 hours ahead of US Central Time/5 hours ahead of US Eastern Time.)

| Re: "This version of LauncherPro has expired"
| by Fede » Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:56 am
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| The expiration was removed in 0.8.2 and will not be included in any future releases.
| Sorry for any inconvenience.

So, hopefully we'll see something else from him explaining in more detail why exactly he put in an expiration in his earlier LauncherPro versions. Hope everyone is getting this issue worked out before any serious problems occur in their lives. I know the feeling: getting a late night call from my technology-illiterate sister freaking out about her phone being broken.

Good luck everyone!
I posted what he said a couple of pages back and someone quoted me a couple of posts above yours

He actually gave the explanation like...a couple of months ago and yet he didn't do anything with this until now, where it seemed to have gone THIS bad. Why didn't he fix the problem when the issue was known, but leave it until a month ago? Also if it the expiration was removed in v0.8.2...why are people still seeing this issue? Is EVERYONE that saw this issue never updated to v.0.8.2 or has a custom ROM with a built in LP that is on an older build? Well from seeing how he's been handling this, I find it very unacceptable of a developer. And I will say, he is not the kind of developer I want to support.
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You know, I'm not defending Fede's boneheaded actions here, but I have to say, you can have a stable installation of LauncherPro that doesn't have any of these problems - I do. I never installed a beta version, I downloaded the free version and paid via PayPal to get a registration number, and I've never had any of these issues. It's a great launcher, if it's stable on your phone. I've got GO Launcher, and it's ok, but LP is still my favorite.
+1. How many of you either installed an old free version (never bothered to update it) or it was part of the ROM that you installed? Just curious, how many ROM developers asked Fede's permission to bundle the app? Maybe he could have warned them?
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As a relative noob still (I've only had my phone a little over a month) I feel compelled to say something in Federico's defense. I don't think anyone ever stops to think how hard these developers work on these programs. On another forum I read where Federico posted (a while back) how he had been working for weeks (without a dime coming in) on the LauncherPro Plus before he released it. As it turns out he created a great program and IMO it is deserving of being a 'paid for program'.

So, how long after someone releases a 'free version' should a developer have to wait for it be allowed to expire? Should it always be free?

With so many users loving LauncherPro, it appears he is a successful developer and perhaps lacks some communication or business skills which he will hopefully and probably improve on in the future.

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It didn't have a TOS or EULA popup on first use warning of that?
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It didn't have a TOS or EULA popup on first use warning of that?
The first version of LP I installed had a warning as to its impending expiration.

I made the purchase to the full version long before that, but I have to admit that I can't remember how long the beta version was supposed to be good for, 30 days? 90 days? I don't know. Many who kept the beta were surprised, it appears, and many of them didn't have it very long.
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Looks like the developer removed the expiration date and it will never be an issue again.

Ironically for me, I paid for Launcher Pro, enjoyed it for a while, but right now I'm running stock Sense and Samsung TouchWiz on my phones...
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I have used LP since I found it and purchased it as soon as the Pro version came out and it is the first application I reinstall after my almost daily wipes playing around with ROMs. I like this application and I think it is the best home replacement solution available.

I'm certain the developer did not intend to brick any phones with this expiry scheme but sadly that is what the final result was. This is a very good example of poor planning with disastrous results.

I would be curious how many phones are "bricked" as a result of this debacle.
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As a relative noob still (I've only had my phone a little over a month) I feel compelled to say something in Federico's defense. I don't think anyone ever stops to think how hard these developers work on these programs. On another forum I read where Federico posted (a while back) how he had been working for weeks (without a dime coming in) on the LauncherPro Plus before he released it. As it turns out he created a great program and IMO it is deserving of being a 'paid for program'.
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So, how long after someone releases a 'free version' should a developer have to wait for it be allowed to expire? Should it always be free?

With so many users loving LauncherPro, it appears he is a successful developer and perhaps lacks some communication or business skills which he will hopefully and probably improve on in the future.

Just my two cents worth...
This is a bit of a long post, but to show you that I'm not slandering Fede. My opinion is all based on what I've seen as a LP user from the beginning of the life of the app and what I've research when I heard about this.

There are some Android users who use 'free' apps that 'donate' to the developer to get him/her motivated on his/her app. When an app is really good this is the case for these people. I've donated a couple of dollars to dev for applications that I thought were amazing. I bought the LP+ soon after it was release and so did quite a number of people if you read his blog when he just released LP+, there were hundreds of 'i just bought your LP+' from customers. Be sure Fede had a strong following from day one he released LP.

Now, there are other ways to expire an app. I've gotten beta apps that expire, a good example is swype. It's coded so that when it's XX/XX/XX date, the app stops working. It does NOT force you onto its website so that you have to download the latest version or buy the app. Not everyone has data on their phone or might have had it turned off when this happened. The result is as you've seen. If he wanted to 'expire' LP, why didn't he do that? Instead, it seemed that he wanted to make sure you HAD to install the updated app. Maybe this was a lack of foresight from him, people do make mistake, but I doubt that. I'll explain it in the next paragraphs.

Doing a bit of research, this issue appeared beginning of August base on the earliest forum post I was able to find. LauncherPro+ was released mid July. Fede updated LP when he released the LP+ and I believe that this was when he place the expiry code into the app. As stated, I bought LP+ soon after it was released so I never experience this problem. I knew LP expired but I didn't realize how restrictive and confining it placed the user in when it expired. Fede 'fixed' this issue in September by putting in a notification a couple of days before the app expired. This is nothing more than a bandage solution as he did not take out the codes that only allow you to use the browser only when LP expires.

I might be a minority but I am very very careful when I install and update an app. Not sure if you know, but when you update an app, you are basically installing it again. If the dev puts something malicious in an update, you’re caught it in with the update. Anyways, I do a full research of the app when an update occurs. I check the new permission against the old one to see if anything changed, if it did, I’d email the developer asking what the new permission is for if he/she did not explain it on his/her site. I read what people on the market posted of the updated app. I read forums, I check out Android blogs to see if there are any issues reported. I don’t update until a couple of days AFTER a dev releases an update for an app. I’ve skipped LP updates before because some update had bugs in them. If I was still on LP at the time, I’d be screwed too and it would have been too late. I did not have data, ADB debugging was off as well as the ability to download unauthorized apps not from the market. Unless I had system used in the last 6 apps used, the only solution would be a factory reset.

When Fede realized that there was an issue with the expiration of the app, did he blog an apology/warning of the issue? No, he did not. He DID leave a couple of posts in the forum about it but not everyone uses his forum. So in September/October he updated LP with the expiry date time but he did nothing about disabling how the app restrict the user to only using the browser if the app expire. I think he received a lot of complaints where he decided to disable the expiry in December 2010 from his post in his forum. Nothing was mentioned when he announced the this update. So it took him 5 months to do this. Yes he's busy, but when something is this 'critical', it sould be dealt with immediately.

From all of this, how can I trust a developer that I find deals in unethical business conduct? All in all, I am just greatly dissapointed in Fede and have lost faith, respect and trust in him as a developer. LP has one of the most intensive permissions requirement for it to function, he basically has access to everything about you on your phone. It's a great deal of trust that myself and many of his customers placed on him when we accept to use his app. We have faith that he shall not do anything with the permission and access granted to him that would compromise us. Seeing how he dealt with this, I do not have confidence in LP anymore. To me, a developer is only as good as his words and actions, no matter how great his app may be.

If anyone want to correct me if my analysis is incorrect or if I left out any details, please do so.

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Roze, thank you very much for that very well written and carefully thought out and researched opinion of this LP incident and how the developer, in your opinion, failed to handle it correctly.

It answered any questions I may have posed as to if what he did was honest and ethical.

Now I have to decide what to do with the LP+ that I have. I hope that Fede will do something to ensure users that this will not happen again in the future. It really is a cool app!

Thanks again for all the time you took to write this up for us to read.

Cheers!

PS...I just now saw where you included my quotes and you responded to my post inquiring as to if there was any defense for what Federico did. Thank you again very much!
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Paid for Plus version as soon as it became available. Really worth the money.
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I remember seeing it in one of the first builds of LP I used as well. It must have been overlooked during an update and probably took out the notification while fully intending to remove the code for the timer.

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If you ran into this issue then you haven't paid for the app but are using the free version and you AREN'T supporting the developer so you need do nothing new in protest.

I agree his response is overly heavy handed even though warnings were issued. This does show how many people were (legally) using his labor for free. I find the threats of boycott humorous because these folks have effectively been boycotting LP since they installed it by not financially supporting the developer.

It's like if I said I'm never buying a Lady Gaga CD again. I never have and never would anyway so my protest is moot.

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Paid for Plus version as soon as it became available. Really worth the money.
I did, too, thus avoiding the problem. I always pay developers for their programs, they make my life easier, so I pay the small amount they want. Or the big amount, if I really like the program - otherwise I don't sue them.
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If you ran into this issue then you haven't paid for the app but are using the free version and you AREN'T supporting the developer so you need do nothing new in protest.

I agree his response is overly heavy handed even though warnings were issued. This does show how many people were (legally) using his labor for free. I find the threats of boycott humorous because these folks have effectively been boycotting LP since they installed it by not financially supporting the developer.

It's like if I said I'm never buying a Lady Gaga CD again. I never have and never would anyway so my protest is moot.

So I don't taint this thread further, anyone please direct your angst towards me via PM.
I couldn't agree more! Pay the developer for your program and keep it up to date, and you won't have problems like this.
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I paid for the program too after testing it for just one day. Looks like the issue is now resolved, but this kind of behaviour is unacceptable in the first place. It shouldn't have been included at all. An app that prevents you from using your phone? Sounds like the textbook definition of a virus.
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...after reading all these posts.. this is not a developer i want to support. Even though I paid for LP+ i am uninstalling and heading towards camp ADW... I would rather not wait it out a see where his next mistake maybe
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If you ran into this issue then you haven't paid for the app but are using the free version and you AREN'T supporting the developer so you need do nothing new in protest.

I agree his response is overly heavy handed even though warnings were issued. This does show how many people were (legally) using his labor for free. I find the threats of boycott humorous because these folks have effectively been boycotting LP since they installed it by not financially supporting the developer.

It's like if I said I'm never buying a Lady Gaga CD again. I never have and never would anyway so my protest is moot.

So I don't taint this thread further, anyone please direct your angst towards me via PM.
Rich, I agree with you to an extent, however, I think you forgot about why free versions of apps exists. It's a way for the developer to test the market for interest and a way for the consumer to evaluate the app BEFORE they purchase it.

When I have interest in an app, I download the free versions of the category leaders and compare them for their features, ease of use, appearance, reviews, etc..., but most importantly, how they perform on my phone (reliability). Then I buy the one that best meets my criteria. That's my processs and I sure I'm not alone.

Those individuals who were negatively impacted now have a really bad taste in their mouth and now many of them won't use or purchase the app. I'm one of those people (especially since I read somewhere that this very same thing has happened before). I had recently downloaded ADW and LauncherPro to evaluate and was strongly leaning toward purchasing/making a donataion to LauncherPro. Not anymore. So, future revenue WILL be impacted.

I just hope that the timing of this didn't negatively impact people with emergencies who needed a functioning phone.
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Good points, cmidi, the problem is, that beta is months old - so if you've had months to try something out, why haven't they purchased the app and supported the developer by now? I don't blame anyone for acting on the bad taste in their mouths, that's the price Fede is going to have to pay for this screw up, but if they had only updated their software none of this would be happening.
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Whenever I get something for 'free' I consider that I'm taking a risk of some kind. Like...there's a catch somewhere. Same with anything beta. And I feel that I share the responsibility if something goes wrong.

But when I pay for something I expect it to do what it says. It's not like these apps cost a fortune or anything. Most are really inexpensive.

In fact, they are so cheap I'm becoming an APP ADDICT! Where is APP ADDICTS ANONYMOUS! HELP! I'm spending all my money on APPS!!! LOL

No, seriously. After reading all these posts, I do have mixed feelings about the developer but then seriously hasn't that been going on forever with data and technology? The developers get you hooked on something and then let you use it free until you get dependent on it and then suddenly they want you to pay a fortune for it.

The problem here, as I see it, is that there was something in the program that screwed up your phone if you didn't remove it before it expired. That's the part that I think is bad. If he wanted to make you upgrade to pro he could have just made the program not work some other way.

Instead of having a popup saying it was going to expire he could have updated it to showing a popup that gave the user an opportunity to buy the pro version and clearly stated that.

Just another of my noob IMHO opinions!!!

I tend to agree with Reinbeau. If you are going to continue to use the free version just go ahead and pay for the pro version. That seems like the ethical thing to do from a user point of view.

Still....Federico should have handled it differently.



I really do like the program, however, and I plan to keep it (the paid for version).

But then....on the other hand I can understand if someone has hard feelings about it because they had a bad experience. This is the price Federico will have to pay. He will have to work at gaining back the confidence of those who trusted him and felt betrayed.

Paid or not paid.
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Jazziette, you aren't the only app addict around here....trust me. I've paid for many, many, many (did I say many) apps so far, plus I contributed to this forum and to XDA. I just want the whole Android world to keep educating and entertaining me!
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Reinbeau! I hear ya! I think it's particularly appealing to us 'right-brain'/left-brain' types. The technology along with the creativity makes us want more, more, more!!! I've been posting on forums for years now and this is one of the best I have run across so I am thinking of going Premium here as well.
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Good points, cmidi, the problem is, that beta is months old - so if you've had months to try something out, why haven't they purchased the app and supported the developer by now? I don't blame anyone for acting on the bad taste in their mouths, that's the price Fede is going to have to pay for this screw up, but if they had only updated their software none of this would be happening.
You're speculating. I assume you were'nt impacted. I had the latest version before this latest update, so it wasn't just the beta version that was impacted. Also, some people could have just recently downloaded the app (like the week before).

I don't buy the "if they had only updated their software none of this would be happening" argument. The app itself could have been disabled without disabling/impacting the phone. Most developers just disable the functionality of their "free/trial" product and nothing else. Additionally, I personally didn't care for how Fede handled this issue. He was MIA while his website was offline a day or two (don't know exactly how long), and when it finally comes back online, he provided no explanation other than your phone isn't "bricked", a link to the file to fix it, and a one line apology. I mention this because a couple of updates before this one, on his website, Fede provides a long explanation addressing what appears to be a very minor issue with Facebook not updating properly under that (then current) version of LauncherPro. Given the severity of this issue, I expected more of an explanation than was given, especially given how long an explanation was given to a minor issue.

I read somewhere else that the result of Fede's mistake (carelessness) was no different than that of a malicious virus, and I agree with this comparison of results (not intent).

Listen, I like the product also, but let's be real about this. Users are not to blame here.
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cmidi, I am not speculating, you are the only person I've read who had the problem who actually paid for the program - but I'm reading that you had installed the beta program first, I never did, I got it from the market and immediately paid for it. That could be the difference.

I am absolutely not defending the way Fede handled this issue, it's piss-poor business to be so far behind in owning the problem and helping people get their phones back under control. That's a separate issue from people who use free test programs and never pay for them - it just so happens that this time it's bitten them in the butts.
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I have EXACTLY the same problem. The suggestions to go to "applications" or "settings" is mute because the phone is absolutely useless, one cannot get to the home screen at all.
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cmidi, I am not speculating, you are the only person I've read who had the problem who actually paid for the program - but I'm reading that you had installed the beta program first, I never did, I got it from the market and immediately paid for it. That could be the difference.

I am absolutely not defending the way Fede handled this issue, it's piss-poor business to be so far behind in owning the problem and helping people get their phones back under control. That's a separate issue from people who use free test programs and never pay for them - it just so happens that this time it's bitten them in the butts.
I never said I bought the app. If you read my original post, I recently downloaded free versions of both ADW and LauncherPro from the market for evaluation purposes before purchasing either (I do purchase apps that I like).

In my mind, the beta, free, and paid programs are all different, and it sounds like you see the beta and free programs as the same. That's fine. When I think of beta programs, I think of programs released in a controlled environment (limited universe) for the purpose of testing (maybe that's Alpha testing, huh). I think of free programs as the next logical progression from that (updated), but more focused on generating demand. I think of Fee based programs including all of the free programs features, but also with some additional advanced features.

Anyway, definitions aside, we have to agree to disagree on the main issue. I don't think anyone should ever be subjected to what happened (whether you paid for an app or not). If a developer is worried about not getting paid for his/her efforts then program the app to just stop working at the end of a trial period (and by all means, test your app), or, don't offer a free app at all.
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Anyway, definitions aside, we have to agree to disagree on the main issue. I don't think anyone should ever be subjected to what happened (whether you paid for an app or not). If a developer is worried about not getting paid for his/her efforts then program the app to just stop working at the end of a trial period (and by all means, test your app), or, don't offer a free app at all.
We can't disagree on what you've termed 'the main issue' because I don't see any justification for Fede inserting code into anything that would cause this kind of havoc on anyone's phone, nor have implied I did think it was ok, I have no idea where you got the idea I thought this was ok. We have no disagreement there.
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We can't disagree on what you've termed 'the main issue' because I don't see any justification for Fede inserting code into anything that would cause this kind of havoc on anyone's phone, nor have implied I did think it was ok, I have no idea where you got the idea I thought this was ok. We have no disagreement there.
Glad to hear we have no disagreement there. We'll leave it at that.
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...after reading all these posts.. this is not a developer i want to support. Even though I paid for LP+ i am uninstalling and heading towards camp ADW... I would rather not wait it out a see where his next mistake maybe

For those that are interested L after this yesterday went and tried the few launchers out there - GO launcher is amazing ! ... Has most if not all of the features of Launcherpro plus.. super easy to use and extra things LP+ never had
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I have been using LauncherPro since before there was a Plus version, and used it for probably several months more before buying the Plus version; and I don't use any of the Plus features - I just wanted to support the developer.

I fully understand why a developer would include an expiration in a freely-distributed beta. If there is any possibility they may sell the release version, it's unwise to have free beta versions floating around indefinitely. That said, a suddenly non-functional app leaves a bad taste is the user's mouth. Any expiry system needs to have a warning period during which the user can continue to use the app, and consider upgrading (possibly to a newer beta)/paying, or moving to another product. But sudden loss of functionality leads to more people in the latter group.
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I was among the many people who were completely ****** over by this issue.

I'm travelling overseas, and had all data, wifi etc turned off. when I powered on my phone, I was stuck between a screen saying Launcher Pro has expired and the browser window trying to access the update without an internet connection. I could not access my phones settings or anything else for that matter. this basically made my cellphone completely disfunctional and thus ruined parts of my travel plans.

I guess being so reliant on technology is my own fault, but I would accept this better if it were an actual malfunction with my phone, not a built in feature of a program that was causing this hell.

needless to say, I will never ever trust software by this developer again.

by the way, the website for Launcher Pro seems completely ****** up. there are several posts about the issue with people having their phones in complete lock down, and the developer is doing nothing to help.

I had to download SDK on my laptop and use ADB to install the new version, I've posted a rather unprofessional how-to here: http://androidforums.com/android-applications/253272-launcher-pro-has-expired-best-solution.html#post2113201
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I was among the many people who were completely ****** over by this issue.

I'm travelling overseas, and had all data, wifi etc turned off. when I powered on my phone, I was stuck between a screen saying Launcher Pro has expired and the browser window trying to access the update without an internet connection. I could not access my phones settings or anything else for that matter. this basically made my cellphone completely disfunctional and thus ruined parts of my travel plans.

I guess being so reliant on technology is my own fault, but I would accept this better if it were an actual malfunction with my phone, not a built in feature of a program that was causing this hell.

needless to say, I will never ever trust software by this developer again.

by the way, the website for Launcher Pro seems completely ****** up. there are several posts about the issue with people having their phones in complete lock down, and the developer is doing nothing to help.

I am posting a noob fix on this in a separate thread in just a minute.
All I can say is I don't blame you.. and the developer may be leaving himself open to a lawsuit.
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OK, I disagree with this take that the dev is so evil.

One report above confirms there was an initial warning. We all know we usually click past those little initial pop-ups without reading.

The Lifehacker article goes on to state that the dev couldn't find a web issue at first glance, suggesting they might have gotten slashdotted (overloaded) - not at all unlikely for lots of people rushing to update or find out what's up.

So, instead of silent shutdown on the early copy, his alternative would be what? Take over front end operations and issue warnings? Text/email those based on registration? That would've led to "I'm being spammed complaints."

He did take it out, because this is a lose-lose situation for him.

And just so we're clear on this lawsuit thing - good luck suing someone over free software. Contract law requires consideration in exchange - you didn't pay or trade, a warning of risk was given, so you don't sue.
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People really need to get past the idea that the developer was doing something illicit.

The whole idea behind the expiration date wasn't to limit the time you could demo it. It was to ensure people would update to the more recent versions. Support would be a nightmare otherwise if bug reports from several different versions were coming in.

The only mistake the dev made was to ensure that the method to make sure users updated regularly wasn't dummy proofed. Despite what people say, nobody's phones were bricked. Anybody could have switched back to their default launcher if they knew how.

The developer feels bad enough over it, and he's a good guy. Ease up on the fella.
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I paid for the program too after testing it for just one day. Looks like the issue is now resolved, but this kind of behaviour is unacceptable in the first place. It shouldn't have been included at all. An app that prevents you from using your phone? Sounds like the textbook definition of a virus.
Doesn't brick the phone.. It asked you to download the newest version and after that everything was fine. You could also just reset your device
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This expiration issue was very annoying. The really simple solution to all out expiration would have been some nag screens on boot or replacing the wallpaper with a nag screen. Absolutely stopping and rendering people's phones useless this way is/was totally inexcusable. Not surprising that this developer will have lost a lot of potential customers for this easily avoided blunder.
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...replacing the wallpaper with a nag screen...
I imagine that might make complaints, too, tho.
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So, instead of silent shutdown on the early copy, his alternative would be what? Take over front end operations and issue warnings? Text/email those based on registration? That would've led to "I'm being spammed complaints."
how about making the software disfunctional in some other way than freezing up the entire phone?

I recall seeing a warning, but fact is that I was travelling at this time and didn't have an easy way of updating - I assumed to software would stop functioning once it expires, certainly didn't expect it to make my phone unusable.

I'm not a developer so I'm not the best person to throw around ideas, but couldn't it just have a popup come up everytime the user goes to the homescreen suggesting to update? or provide the options of either updating or going into setting to remove the old software?
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Anybody could have switched back to their default launcher if they knew how.
A simple solution. In most cases it should have been nothing more than a minor inconvenience. Anyone without an available data connection may see it differently; I may have too under those circumstances. With so many easy ways around this problem for the majority of users, I can't help but wonder why there has been such an uproar.
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how about making the software disfunctional in some other way than freezing up the entire phone?

I recall seeing a warning, but fact is that I was travelling at this time and didn't have an easy way of updating - I assumed to software would stop functioning once it expires, certainly didn't expect it to make my phone unusable.

I'm not a developer so I'm not the best person to throw around ideas, but couldn't it just have a popup come up everytime the user goes to the homescreen suggesting to update? or provide the options of either updating or going into setting to remove the old software?
It may have been an unintended consequence on his part.
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sounds like an honest mistake that has since been remedied. sueing over this is absolutely rediculous
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I'm using the paid version, so didn't have any if these issues. It was definitely bad that the dev did not foresee this.

For a while now I had been having strange issues which I attributed to Tasker and LPP not playing nicely. This LP issue pushed me over the edge to install a new launcher, whereas had this never happened I probably would not have considered doing so.
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Haven't seen a expiration yet but only used it for maybe 2 weeks before I bought it. To me it is worth the money.
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A simple solution. In most cases it should have been nothing more than a minor inconvenience. Anyone without an available data connection may see it differently; I may have too under those circumstances. With so many easy ways around this problem for the majority of users, I can't help but wonder why there has been such an uproar.
Because some people consider their smart phone a 'cool' phone and just use it as a phone. They have no clue how to change launchers when they're locked out of basic functionality. I've read of many people who put the launcher on their friend's phone and sent them on their merry way. We have to remember those of us who have found these forums and educated ourselves are in the vast minority.
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