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Old March 7th, 2011, 10:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What is the best anti-virus? I have AVG right now but I'm wondering if lookout is better or if there is any other ones out there that I dont know about yet..

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Well considering there is no Android virus, none.
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The best anti virus is not being stupid!

Here are some threads that might help:-

http://androidforums.com/android-applications/36936-how-safe-find-trusted-apps-avoid-viruses-guide-those-new-android.html

Antivirus for Android

AntiVirus for Android OS?

Do apps get reviewed by google?

Android and Viruses....

Your views of Anti-virus 'Lookout'

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Thumbs up for lookout. Saved my phone twice. Once with the location feature when I lost it in the snow. Another time when Google wiped out my contacts, Lookout had backed them up as well. The Antivirus seems to work, but for me is just an added feature to the full package.
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Who said it was stupid?
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Virus writers are like roaches always looking for new victims to harvest. Any protection is better than none at all and AVG are one of the better options around. I personally prefer Dr Web. By the way one of my colleagues recently lost all their info thanks to a virus as they left their bluetooth activated so viruses are out there in the wild
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Point still remains that most AV apps are just junk and won't do anything. When such a virus shows up, it's very likely your AV app won't do a thing. Security apps are much more handy - recovering data, location and anti-theft, etc. but in the end, they all suck battery and I'll take my chances without.
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Who said it was stupid?
No one!

My apologies if you took it personally.

I said... "The best anti virus is not being stupid!"

In other words, take heed of what you are installing.
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No one!

My apologies if you took it personally.

I said... "The best anti virus is not being stupid!"

In other words, take heed of what you are installing.
Ohhhh! I get it now! I always read the reviews and check the permissions before I download..but sometimes I go and download ringtones from mabilo.com like an idiot..and I used to download ringtones from funformobile.com all the time on my blackberry and I'm pretty sure it gave my phone viruses and made it run like crap! So hopefully these anti viruses do something!
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Personally I wouldn't bother with these so-called anti-viruses.

I wonder how many people were saved by their "anti-viruses" in the recent Market app's scare... see here:-

Google removes 58 malicious apps from Android Market, uninstalls them from phones remotely too

Nobody seems to have posted that their particular ant-virus prevented them being able to download or become infected.
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One related thing I just discovered is that, when rooting my OG Droid, I had to download "rageagainstthecage" as part of the rooting process.

The rooting process went fine, but last night my desktop anti-virus program discovered that "rageagainstthecage," which I'd saved to my desktop computer in case I needed it again, contained an "Android OS trojan" (that's what it called it; I forget the exact name).

I ran a virus/malware checker on the phone and it's apparently OK, but it just proves that the world isn't really all that safe any more for Android.
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One related thing I just discovered is that, when rooting my OG Droid, I had to download "rageagainstthecage" as part of the rooting process.

The rooting process went fine, but last night my desktop anti-virus program discovered that "rageagainstthecage," which I'd saved to my desktop computer in case I needed it again, contained an "Android OS trojan" (that's what it called it; I forget the exact name).

I ran a virus/malware checker on the phone and it's apparently OK, but it just proves that the world isn't really all that safe any more for Android.
"rageagainstthecage" is a virus... but a "good" virus.

It's used to root your phone and is intended to be there to create a "back-door" to allow the rooting to take place.

For more details, see here:-

Thread rageagainstthecage-arm5.bin - Trojan? | Android Forums and Windows Phone Discussion @ XDA-developers | BoardReader
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Thanks for setting me straight on this. VERY good to know.
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Some people put to much trust in electronics to not add safe guards. With all of the ID theft out there and smartphones more like computers, I don't understand the logic why those that don't want to protect their info. I use Lookout Premium and love it. I used the free version for about a year and then upgraded to Premium. Since I use my phone as a laptop and store a lot of personal stuff on there, it is a must have for me. I can locate my phone if ever lost. There is a safe browsing mode. I can backup and restore my contacts and photos. Every app that I download is scanned for malware and viruses. I have an automatic daily app and file scan. Lookout lets me know when certain apps need access to cetain personal data, like phone calls, contacts, etc.
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Some people put to much trust in electronics to not add safe guards. With all of the ID theft out there and smartphones more like computers, I don't understand the logic why those that don't want to protect their info. I use Lookout Premium and love it. I used the free version for about a year and then upgraded to Premium. Since I use my phone as a laptop and store a lot of personal stuff on there, it is a must have for me. I can locate my phone if ever lost. There is a safe browsing mode. I can backup and restore my contacts and photos. Every app that I download is scanned for malware and viruses. I have an automatic daily app and file scan. Lookout lets me know when certain apps need access to cetain personal data, like phone calls, contacts, etc.
Logic dictates that if you put an app on your phone that is going to run constantly in the background it'll slow the phone down. Now, that's fine if it's an app that offers a service that is needed. AV apps on Android do not. An app to locate your phone is a legit use. A safe browsing mode is completely useless as there are no viruses that target mobile browsers. Backing up contacts and photos is a legit use, but Google does this for you automatically. There is no need to scan any legit apps you download from the market. Do you really think you're going to find malware in Angry Birds or any other legitimate app? Really? And you're going to waste your phones resources scanning your entire phone every day for threats that don't exist? It's the equivalent of of looking under your bed and through your closets every day for boogey men. The Android OS already lets you know when apps need access to things like your data, your contacts, etc... Why would you need an app for that?
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Logic dictates that if you put an app on your phone that is going to run constantly in the background it'll slow the phone down. Now, that's fine if it's an app that offers a service that is needed. AV apps on Android do not. An app to locate your phone is a legit use. A safe browsing mode is completely useless as there are no viruses that target mobile browsers. Backing up contacts and photos is a legit use, but Google does this for you automatically. There is no need to scan any legit apps you download from the market. Do you really think you're going to find malware in Angry Birds or any other legitimate app? Really? And you're going to waste your phones resources scanning your entire phone every day for threats that don't exist? It's the equivalent of of looking under your bed and through your closets every day for boogey men. The Android OS already lets you know when apps need access to things like your data, your contacts, etc... Why would you need an app for that?

You bring up all good points, except you forget that not all websites are mobil sites. (You can pull up full sites, I've done it.) There are thousands of apps in the market, not to mention sideloaded apps, that's not from the Android market you can download. You should do Google search and you will see just how open the android OS is for viruses. Now if android was a closed system like apples iOS, then there is no need for a antivirus app. Check out this article.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/12/us-android-security-idUSTRE77B53F20110812?feedType=RSS&feedName=techno logyNews&ca=moto

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You bring up all good points, except you forget that not all websites are mobil sites. (You can pull up full sites, I've done it.) There are thousands of apps in the market, not to mention sideloaded apps, that's not from the Android market you can download. You should do Google search and you will see just how open the android OS is for viruses. Now if android was a closed system like apples iOS, then there is no need for a antivirus app. Check out this article.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/12/us-android-security-idUSTRE77B53F20110812?feedType=RSS&feedName=techno logyNews&ca=moto

There have never ever been any viruses that targeted any sort of exploit in a mobile browser in order to infect the phone. Ever. If I'm wrong on that, please link me to the article. I don't think I am. Doesn't matter if you're accessing a mobile site or the full site. There is no malware out there that uses a security exploit in a mobile browser to infect a phone.

If you download shady apps anywhere you put yourself at risk. That's not just in the Android market though. That's the same on any OS. If you use some common sense and only download reputable apps from reputable developers, there is no risk.

If you read the article you linked to you find that Google looked at the guys research and found it to be bogus.

I'm not even going to touch the iOS comment. There has been malware found in the iOS market in the past. Not to mention the fact that you have no idea what any of the apps you install are accessing. You are completely depending on Apple to protect your data.
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Belive what you will, but the threats are real. I have provided you with articles to back up what I have said. Here are a few more per your request.

1) Android hit by rogue app viruses | Mail Online

2) Why Android Viruses Are Growing, and How To Stop Them | TechnoBuffalo

3) Lookout Mobile Security Mobile Threat Report

4) http://thetechjournal.com/electronics/mobile/android-phones-are-infected-by-trojan-virus.xhtml
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This last one highlights what can happen if one sideloads something from outside of the Market and from some nefarious site in Russia.

Malware has been quite widespread on Android devices in China, most devices here do not have the Market.
Android Malware Targets China Mobile Users | Malware Blog | Trend Micro
Although I am in China, I currently don't see any need for me to have any AV on my phone, as my phone does have the Market. I'm careful about what I install and look at permissions and sources very carefully before installing an app, e.g. does that Tip Calculator or Wallpaper really need GPS location, Camera, Email and SMS?

BTW not all mobile device AV is to be trusted.
http://shouji.360.cn/?src=360mainnavi

I did come across something rather suspicious myself with a free game I downloaded from the Market last week. Game had a 4 star rating and seemingly positive reviews. But when I tried to load the game it just stopped at a suspicious 'Connecting to Server.' message and the game wouldn't start. The thing was, it wasn't even an online playing game. I did post about this in the Android Games subforum of AF, emailed the dev, not heard anything back, then I made the appropriate comments about this in the Market Reviews.
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Thanks for the link, but I can't read the language. (I need it in english) I agree with all your points. The average person could easily make a mistake downloading a virus and that's were the AV comes in handy.
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Lookout is AMAZING if you lose your phone. Even more so if you pay for premium. I just leave the anti-virus feature disabled. If you are really paranoid then by all means partake, but It's easier to just be smart with your app downloads for now. Lookout themselves reported not finding very much malware since launching the software (I did a quick google and I can't find the article, but I swear I read something to that tune)
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AV is a waste in the Droid environment.
Seekdroid will do all that without AV bloat.
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Does Seekdroid have a web interface with live google mapping of your phone and a button to make your phone emit a loud screech?
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Yep. It also allows you to remotely send a message to your device when the alarm goes off.
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- Locate your device
- Remotely Enable GPS
- Display its location on a map
- Audible alarm (even on silent) ***
w/ custom message ***
- Lock device w/ custom code
- Retrieve recent calls
- Remotely wipe entire phone
- Remotely wipe SD Card
- Hide from app drawer
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- Virtually no battery drain
- Works without a SIM Card
- Reteive SIM ID, IMEI, and
active phone number


Yes - for 99 cents with no monthly fee.
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- Locate your device
- Remotely Enable GPS
- Display its location on a map
- Audible alarm (even on silent) ***
w/ custom message ***
- Lock device w/ custom code
- Retrieve recent calls
- Remotely wipe entire phone
- Remotely wipe SD Card
- Hide from app drawer
- Disable App from being
uninstalled
- Virtually no battery drain
- Works without a SIM Card
- Reteive SIM ID, IMEI, and
active phone number


Yes - for 99 cents with no monthly fee.

Holy Damn! That sounds way better than lookout!!

But I think Lookout Plan B deserves a mention. It's a free app that can be installed AFTER you've already lost your phone. I'm gonna check out seekdroid now though
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I came accross this today and thought I'd share.

Mobile Security -- What You Need to Know - YouTube


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I stopped watching when I seen that a so called "antivirus" company was behind the results. Of course they are going to make Android look like a dangerous place where a virus is waiting around every corner; they make money by scaring people in to using their useless products. They preach about all of these viruses and malware applications, but I have yet to see any evidence that their "antivirus" has prevent any of them from being installed. Lookout doesn't work; you are delusional if you think otherwise.
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I stopped watching when I seen that a so called "antivirus" company was behind the results. Of course they are going to make Android look like a dangerous place where a virus is waiting around every corner; they make money by scaring people in to using their useless products. They preach about all of these viruses and malware applications, but I have yet to see any evidence that their "antivirus" has prevent any of them from being installed. Lookout doesn't work; you are delusional if you think otherwise.
Happy Friday drdoom. With all do respect, the OP asked about the best AV apps, specifically Lookout, to which I use. If you choose not to use an AV app, for whatever reason, that is your right to do so. But don't mess it up for others that are really looking to use this product to protect themselves, with your opinion just because you haven't seen it happen yet. Just within this fourm, I have provided research to back up what I believe and said, with creditable resources, in hoping to help the OP with their decision. So please, be nice, we are all trying to help each other. Have a bless day.
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I would not blow smoke up anyone’s ass and say there are no viruses for Android. Just like claims that Mac OS and Linux has no viruses is equally false. The truth is likely more that there are few and far between, and likely the very reason few if anyone claims that the AV program they used has stopped a virus.

I would still recommend Lookout as even if you don't ever get a virus you can still use it to back up your contacts or locate your phone if it's ever lost or stolen. IMO any virus protection it may offer is secondary.
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Lookout doesn't work; you are delusional if you think otherwise.
You are entitled to hold an uninformed opinion, but you are not entitled to make stuff up and call it a valid argument.
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You are entitled to hold an uninformed opinion, but you are not entitled to make stuff up and call it a valid argument.
Then inform me. Show me a single shred of evidence that Lookout has actually detected a virus/malware program that wasn't already removed by Google days earlier. Hell, show me evidence where Lookout has even detected a virus at all.
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"no viruses for Android"

Really? BBC News - Virus writers hit Google Android phones

"A malicious application that can steal cash via phones running Google's Android operating system has been found."

Also: TinyURL.com - shorten that long URL into a tiny URL

"As smartphones become the new target for hackers, Channel 4 News Technology Correspondent Benjamin Cohen investigates the new techniques being used to spy on phone calls and access personal data. "
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Quoting from the article:
"The risk to Android owners worldwide is believed to be low."

Amazing what reading the whole thing without cherrypicking the sensationalist title can do isn't it? This "virus" is the equivalent of being dumb enough to believe that Nigerian prince died and you received his inheritance of $20 million.
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We should also read the second article. Just a thought, or perhaps you think this isn't a real threat...

"Security firm Kaspersky say the number of threats to smartphones has doubled in the past two years. It identified 2,564 identified threats in 2011, compared to 906 different viruses in 2009."

And...

"Anti-virus company McAfee has reported a 76 per cent surge in malware aimed directly at Google's Android systems."
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I've read through a number of linked articles in this thread. It seems most of the articles use the word "virus" in the headline when it is not technically a virus. I question the credibility of the article when it starts calling every bit of malware a "virus" when clearly none of the malware that any of the articles mention are viruses. I feel these articles are misleading in making people think that their phone can get a virus like how they can get a virus on their computer.

I also question the credibility of the guy who was a no show to the presentation he organised. Although, I understand that you may not want to announce to the world how you can exploit security holes in systems, the article makes me wonder what he intends to do instead. Does he plan to just sit on the information and do nothing? Maybe if he said that he would reveal that information to Google or the app developer or anyone who has the ability to ensure the security vulnerabilities are fixed, I then believe he has found something. If he did feel it is such a serious vulnerability, perhaps he should have known then it was a bad idea to tell the world instead of right before he was to show up.

I'm not saying that security vulnerabilities cannot be exploited by malware. I believe that all devices that are pretty much complex computers from PC's to smartphones can be susceptible to malware. I just don't feel that at this time, AV software is going to significantly improve the security on my phone against malware based on my current understanding of Android phones.
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Look at your sources: Kaspersky and McAfee; both are antivirus companies that profit from the use of their products. For all you know, they could be counting applications that shut the phone down or cause it to force close as "threats." They make money off people buying their products, of course they are going to scare people into using them.
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This has become a big debate over this. I think we can all agree that most smartphones are miniature computers, that we all carry in our pockets. We do a lot of, if not more, personal stuff on our cell phones then personal computers. Just like desktop computers have and need firewalls and AV software, smartphones are no exception. The percentage is very small, as to how many people might get a virus, malware or spyware. But, just like those of us that on a vehicle and pay for vehicle insurance that we most likely will never use, but paying a premium either every month or year, we have it just in case. If I was a criminal, if I was, I would target smartphones without second thought. People put a lot of personal data on there phones. Pay for things using their credit cards. Check bank statements. Deposit checks. Save passwords, etc. As consumers, we have to be a step ahead of the criminal, in this game.

As of right now, we don't have a lot of proof that any of the AV apps work as fare as fare as catching a virus, malware or spyware. Except that nobody with an AV installed on their phone, has reported that their phone has been infected. Are these companies trying to promote their products, well sure. But, I would believe them as to the amount of threats out their, before I believe someone that doesn't even work in this field, and are just giving an opinion.
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Well considering there is no Android virus, none.
http://http://thetechjournal.com/electronics/mobile/android-phones-are-infected-by-trojan-virus.xhtml
Android Gets Its First Ever Virus--You're a Mandroid, My Son (Updated) | Fast Company

Actually it has been reported over a year ago that there have been viruses for Android. Back then they got on to your phone through the blue tooth being left on. Not sure how it would be today.
While Android is Linux and Linux if more secure than windows, any os written is man made and their for is not in foul-able. Even Mac and the I-OS as secure as those are there have been two potential viruses found. Neither have been found in the wild but the potential for the exploits are there.
As much as I like Android, I-OS I believe is BSD based which would make it a bit more secure than Linux.
Any which way. The potential for viruses are always there weather there are any out or not. I use AVG on my phone and PCs because they are a good AVProvider. As long as I have used AVG on my windows PCs it has kept them clean except once I think I got hit with something that was very new and AVG did not have it in their Virus Definitions.
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Belive what you will, but the threats are real. I have provided you with articles to back up what I have said. Here are a few more per your request.

1) Android hit by rogue app viruses | Mail Online

2) Why Android Viruses Are Growing, and How To Stop Them | TechnoBuffalo

3) Lookout Mobile Security Mobile Threat Report

4) Android Phones are Infected by Trojan virus | TheTechJournal.com

Well done for posting these articles, it is about time people treat their smartphones as they treat their computers, period. One more "hint" below for the sceptical

Is your smartphone under threat from hackers? - Channel 4 News
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I couldn't watch all of that channel 4 video, I got to the bit where he received an email from a "hacker" and had to turn off.

"Anti-Virus" software on Android isn't really necessary, the best way to be safe is by being careful of what you install, only installing from trusted sources and checking the permissions of apps before you install. It's also not advisable to go clicking links in emails where you can't be sure who sent it to you (the same as with a PC, which is why that channel 4 thing got on my nerves). There's an excellent post by alostpacket here: http://androidforums.com/android-applications/36936-how-safe-find-trusted-apps-avoid-viruses-guide-those-new-android.html

That details the kind of thing you need to look out for when installing apps and what all the permissions mean. It's a bit of a read, but worth it if you're worried about protecting yourself.

All that being said, Lookout is a good app, it will check permissions for you and highlight anything which looks untoward. I've installed it based on the phone finder though.
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The way I see it, android antivirus is equivalent to the rock that keeps tigers away.
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I haven't installed lookout, or any anti-malware software, in a long time. In part to alostpacket's thread. Another part was that it served no purpose. After using it for 6 months, all the apps I installed checked out. So either: 1) I use good sense when choosing apps or 2) Lookout can't actually detect malware. Either way, I couldn't justify having it on my phone.

I did some research on the "malware" that people talk about. Those "viruses" are usually misnomers. They usually are root exploits packaged into a copy of a popular app that install a back door app. Usually the "rage against the cage" exploit technique that was fixed in Android 2.2 Froyo. Seeing how a large number of Android devices are still 2.1 or earlier, yes, they pose a threat to all of the cheap android phones. There are only a handful of generic Android exploits. Most manufacturers have also resolved them.

So, if you don't root, you just need to watch the permissions granted (like there's no reason why a live wallpaper should be able to read your contacts, phone state, and connect to the internet). Root users have to be a bit more careful, but we have tools like DroidWall that helps us.
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There are several antiviruses available in market but I think NetQin Security 5.0 is best for our Android.
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Then inform me. Show me a single shred of evidence that Lookout has actually detected a virus/malware program that wasn't already removed by Google days earlier. Hell, show me evidence where Lookout has even detected a virus at all.
No, that's not how it works. You are the one claiming that it doesn't work. You provide the proof.
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No, that's not how it works. You are the one claiming that it doesn't work. You provide the proof.
Proof of what? Proof that lookout has never detected a virus? You can't prove that it hasn't done something. That fact that no one can provide evidence that is has is proof.
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I-OS I believe is BSD based
I-OS is Mac OS X based. BSD is based on the original Unix by AT&T.


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Proof of what? Proof that lookout has never detected a virus? You can't prove that it hasn't done something. That fact that no one can provide evidence that is has is proof.
I'm neutral here. What I see is that Drdoom came here and claimed that something does not work, and expect those reading his post to be persuaded by merely his word. As a neutral party, I am asking him to back up those claims with irrefutable proof.

Edit: Had to edit.. you and the person I replied to originally are not one in the same.
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I'm neutral here. What I see is that Drdoom came here and claimed that something does not work, and expect those reading his post to be persuaded by merely his word. As a neutral party, I am asking him to back up those claims with irrefutable proof.
I would generally expect that the burden of proof lies with the one claiming something DOES work or exist.
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