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Old June 16th, 2011, 02:22 PM   #101 (permalink)
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I seem to be having an issue with contact photos. If I join a FB contact to a Corporate contact on the phone, shouldn't that contact photo be synced to Hotmail and eventually Outlook? It isn't. And if I add a photo to a contact in Outlook it should eventually appear on the phone, right? They aren't. Also, contact photos never show up in my Windows Live (Hotmail) contacts.
As I mention in my original post...

At this point, contact thumbnail photos, URLs, IM address & Job titles are not synchronized. You can input those fields in Outlook and you can input them on your phone, but they are not synchronized between Outlook and your phone.

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As I mention in my original post...

At this point, contact thumbnail photos, URLs, IM address & Job titles are not synchronized. You can input those fields in Outlook and you can input them on your phone, but they are not synchronized between Outlook and your phone.
That was 3 pages ago. You didn't expect me to remember, did you?

How about making FB contacts on the phone into Corporate contacts so they will sync? I can join a matching FB contact with a Corporate one if they exist in both places, but for FB-only contacts I can't find a way to do this.
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Sorry. Can't help. I don't do Facebook contacts.
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I have been trying for days to make my Live/Outlook 2010 with outlook connector sync contacts with my droid 2.2.

I can create a contact in the phone and it shows up in outlook, but contacts created in outlook will not sync to the phone.

During the troubleshoot I made a "test" live account, imported my contacts to it, and bam they appeared in the phone and will sync both directions... So it appears to be a problem with my main Live account.

Any help other than ditching my beloved main email address for a new one?
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I can create a contact in the phone and it shows up in outlook, but contacts created in outlook will not sync to the phone.

During the troubleshoot I made a "test" live account, imported my contacts to it, and bam they appeared in the phone and will sync both directions... So it appears to be a problem with my main Live account.

Any help other than ditching my beloved main email address for a new one?
That's mind-boggling. I'm grasping at straws but I would recommend the following.
1) Make sure that your sync settings are correct. (I'm sure you've done this.)
2) Make sure that your contacts are in the default contacts folder in Outlook/Hotmail. (It sounds like that's the case.)
3) Delete your Hotmail account from your Android device, and try reinstalling it, making sure it's a "corporate" account.
4) Delete your Hotmail account from Outlook and re-add it. (Make sure you back up Tasks, Notes, and anything else that isn't stored on Hotmail's servers.) Mail, contacts, and calendar are stored on Hotmail's servers.

Good luck.
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Thanks for the quick response and also for posting the original news that this service was now available! I like so many have been searching and testing 3rd party software to sync outlook with android for quite some time.

Trying to figure out what is the diff. between a fresh account and my main account, the only thing that readily comes to mind is my main account is using Live essentials to cloud sync with OneNote and misc folders through Microsoft's Skydrive.

Wonder if that is causing some bug to interfere with the sync process... Wish there were a way to "reset" my main account back to virgin without the year-long account time out waiting process lol.
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I am not experiencing that behavior. When I create a calendar event on on my Android device, or when I change a calendar event on my Android device that was originally created in Outlook, the new or edited event is synchronized back to my Outlook PCs. (I'm using the stock calendar app on an LG Optimus S, with stock Android 2.2.)
Thanks. I'll check again. What I am doing is putting all recurrent appointments in Outlook and eventual ones in the Droid so there is no prob.

Other than that (contact photo sync perhaps), this method has been great.
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dvhttn: I was using MyPhoneExplorer but I stopped using it because:
1) It only handled 16 of the most commonly used Outlook contact fields (see list below), therefore much of the contact information doesn't appear on the phone.
2) When the phone is resynchronized with the PC MyPhoneExplorer overwrites (i.e. effectively deletes) all other less commonly used Outlook fields from the contacts on the PC, and therefore irreparably damages the Outlook contacts on the PC! Examples of fields which are not synchronized, and which will be forever deleted from one's Outlook contacts include Categories, Other address, Business2 phone, Home2 phone, & Assistant's name, but I guess there are more than 100 other such Outlook fields that MyPhoneExplorer destroys.
3) MyPhoneExplorer is a hassle to use because it requires the user to start an app on the PC, be on the same WiFi/wired network as the PC, and then run the syncrhonization.
4) MyPhoneExplorer requires the user to load and run software on both the phone and the PC.
5) MyPhoneExplorer does not enable automatic synchronization of contacts and calendar items between multiple PCs.


MyPhoneExplorer only syncrhonizes the following 16 Outlook fields.
1) First name
2) Last name
3) Company name
4) Home phone
5) Mobile phone
6) Business phone
7) Fax
8) Other phone
9) Home address
10 Work address
11) Email1
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In case anyone was wondering, this is why programming anything related to contacts is such a nightmare
However there are issues in the quoted text that are unsubtantiated other than by the OP.
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However there are issues in the quoted text that are unsubtantiated other than by the OP.
He's not alone. I have also experienced all 5 of the issues listed by the OP when using My Phone Explorer.
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However there are issues in the quoted text that are unsubtantiated other than by the OP.
No. Those issues are real. MPE was among the lamest of the batch of Outlook-Android sync apps I tested. The lack of automated synchronization and needing to be hands on all the time to sync data using this dangerous app (dangerous to your data, that is) was almost as bad as the silently deleted info in the contact records. Any application that does this without a stern and highly visible warning should not be in the Market. "Free" is no excuse for botched programming.

The Outlook Hotmail Connector method of syncing calendar and contact data (I don't do mail, but it will do that if you want it to) with your Android-based phone has its quirks, but is a dream compared to My Phone Destroyer... er, Explorer.
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No. Those issues are real. MPE was among the lamest of the batch of Outlook-Android sync apps I tested. The lack of automated synchronization and needing to be hands on all the time to sync data using this dangerous app (dangerous to your data, that is) was almost as bad as the silently deleted info in the contact records. Any application that does this without a stern and highly visible warning should not be in the Market. "Free" is no excuse for botched programming.

The Outlook Hotmail Connector method of syncing calendar and contact data (I don't do mail, but it will do that if you want it to) with your Android-based phone has its quirks, but is a dream compared to My Phone Destroyer... er, Explorer.
Seems like we're back to the start of this thread! I use MPE and have NEVER had any of the issues you have. The issue with "lack of automated synchronization" is a non-issue as well if that's what you want. If you want an automatic sync then look elsewhere. No need to bash an app because it doesn't say it does what you want - just go and look for another that does!

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I finally accomplished it. Using 'Note Everything' app, follow instructions on importing file from Outlook. Finally it worked. It imported all of my Outlook notes into the Note Everything app.
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The issue with "lack of automated synchronization" is a non-issue as well if that's what you want.
Of course it's an issue if I want it.

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I did, and found it. The idea of manually syncing several times a day (and unreliably, in my experience, with MPE) and having to be on the same wireless network to do that, was impractical, not to mention a moribund process.

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There are too many underdeveloped apps out there that waste a lot of people's time. Some of them cost money. MPE doesn't cost money, but it could cost someone the irreplaceable loss of data. What you call "bashing" I call raising a warning flag for people who might be unaware of the hidden dangers of using an app like MPE. I'm happy it works for you. If it had worked for me, I wouldn't have looked elsewhere. But it didn't, thus my criticism.
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OK, this is proving to be the same incredible pain in the patoot as everything else I've been trying lately.

When I try to import contacts from Outlook into Hotmail, I get the following:

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Importing contacts
Step 1
To bring your contacts into Windows Live Hotmail, first go to your other email service and export them to a file. Then come back here.
Step 2

Select the service you're importing contacts from:
Microsoft Outlook (using CSV)
Windows Live Hotmail
Step 3
Choose the file to import:
I get no option to import the file directly.

Edit: I had to go through the .csv export in order to upload my contacts. So, OK, now my Hotmail account has my contacts. Will they now sync automatically from here on out?

I'm confused, that's for sure.

Now added a contact to my Outlook Contacts. Nowhere does it appear on the Droid, nor in my Hotmail contacts. So I'm unclear on exactly what I've accomplished.

I appreciate the idea of using Hotmail to sync all this stuff, but after following the instructions (as well as I could, since many menus have been unavailable to me) nothing seems to work.

Edit: I now get access to Hotmail contacts, though I had to delete and re-install the account. Not sure what was up with that. But I now have two complete Contacts lists, one of which is hotmail and the other of which is not. I can see potential problems here ...

And it looks like I need to drag-and-drop from my existing calendar into the hotmail calendar in order to get them online. Interesting.
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MaxBuck: I'm sorry to hear that you had so much trouble. Did you follow the instructions in my original post? I didn't suggest exporting or iimporting CSV files. The easiest way to move contacts to Hotmail is to simply copy and paste them.

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But I now have two complete Contacts lists, one of which is hotmail and the other of which is not. I can see potential problems here ...
Where do you have two complete contacts lists, on Outlook or on your Android phone? If on Outlook, then feel free to delete them or hide them. If on Android, then you may wish to stop syncing your Gmail contacts. (Note that this won't delete them from the Gmail server. It just won't sync them to the phone.) Please note that in step #2 of the instructions in my original post I wrote:
2) Delete all of your Gmail contacts from your Gmail account and your phone (if you don't want duplicates) or change the ActiveSync settings to stop synchronizing contacts with Gmail.
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And it looks like I need to drag-and-drop from my existing calendar into the hotmail calendar in order to get them online.
In my original post, I provided the following instructions for moving your calendar to Hotmail.
To move your calendar from your Outlook Personal folders calendar to your Hotmail-based calendar:
1) Export your calendar as a PST file.
2) Then go to your Hotmail calendar and import that PST file into your Hotmail calendar.
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Where do you have two complete contacts lists, on Outlook or on your Android phone? If on Outlook, then feel free to delete them or hide them. If on Android, then you may wish to stop syncing your Gmail contacts.
I have two sets of contacts in Outlook (one is my Hotmail set, the other my regular Outlook set). I also have three calendars now: Outlook, GMail and Hotmail. Outlook (PC) syncs its calendar great with GMail but not at all with Hotmail, while Outlook (Mac) doesn't sync with either.

Obviously I'm missing something.
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I have two sets of contacts in Outlook (one is my Hotmail set, the other my regular Outlook set).
As I said in my original post, once you've transferred your contacts into Hotmail, just stop using your old contacts folder. You can delete it if you like. Or just stop viewing it. I typically use the "Folder List View" (Ctrl+6) and so I just collapse/hide the "Outlook Data File" containing my old "Outlook" contacts folder so that I don't have to look at it (or my old calendar) anymore. I still keep a copy of my contacts in that folder, as a backup. If you use the "Contacts View" (Ctrl+3), you may not be able to delete or hide the default contacts folder. But you can ignore it.

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I also have three calendars now: Outlook, GMail and Hotmail.
Once you've imported your old Outlook "personal folder" calendar into your Hotmail calendar, stop using your old Outlook calendar. Delete it, or hide it, or simply ignore it as I mention in the preceeding paragraph. Since (to my knowledge) it's not possible to view a Gmail calendar in Outlook, I'll assume you're talking about having a Gmail calendar on your Android device. If you like, you can stop syncing and/or viewing your Gmail calendar on your Android device. As I wrote in my original post:

"All of your Outlook/Hotmail calendar items will appear in a calendar on the left sidebar of Outlook and will automatically appear inside the standard built-in Android calendar app along with any Gmail calendar items, if you like. (The items will be color-coded by account.) But at any time, you can simply change the ActiveSync settings on your Android device for each Hotmail and Gmail account to choose whether you want to sync and/or view the calendar items in each of those accounts. (To do so, open the Android calendar app, press the settings button, select "More", then "Calendars", and then tap each account to cycle through the option of synced/visible, synced/not-visible, or not-synced/not-visible.)"

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IOutlook (PC) syncs its calendar great with GMail but not at all with Hotmail, while Outlook (Mac) doesn't sync with either.
Calendar sync should work perfectly between multiple Outlook-PCs and multiple Android devices. (It does for many of us.) I haven't tested Outlook or Entourage on a Mac, but if Outlook/Entourage can sync with the Hotmail server, then the Hotmail servers can sync with the Android device. Are you able to sync with the Hotmail server? (You can go in through the web browser interface to check.) You may also want to make sure that your calendar sync settings are correct on your Android device. Make sure that you've selected "synced/visible" as I describe in the original post (and the preceeding paragraph).
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First and up-front, thanks very much for taking the time to respond to my queries. I really appreciate your patience and interest in helping me solve the frustrating sync issues, and I realize my concerns are different from those of most users.

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As I said in my original post, once you've transferred your contacts into Hotmail, just stop using your old contacts folder. You can delete it if you like. Or just stop viewing it. I typically use the "Folder List View" (Ctrl+6) and so I just collapse/hide the "Outlook Data File" containing my old "Outlook" contacts folder so that I don't have to look at it (or my old calendar) anymore. I still keep a copy of my contacts in that folder, as a backup. If you use the "Contacts View" (Ctrl+3), you may not be able to delete or hide the default contacts folder. But you can ignore it.
But what you're saying is that the Hotmail Contacts list that appears in Outlook (PC version) will sync with the contacts on the Hotmail Exchange server - correct?

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...it's not possible to view a Gmail calendar in Outlook, I'll assume you're talking about having a Gmail calendar on your Android device.
Ehhh ... really I'm talking about the Gmail calendar that I've synced to Outlook using Google Calendar Sync, which works well on the PC.

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Calendar sync should work perfectly between multiple Outlook-PCs and multiple Android devices. (It does for many of us.)
Actually, Google's Calendar Sync works great to sync my PC calendar with my Google (and hence Droid) calendar. My problems relate to 1) contacts sync and 2) sync with Outlook on my Mac. Ideally I'd like to migrate all my routine daily tasks (MS Office, Adobe Acrobat, accounting/bookkeeping for my small business) to my Mac because the machine doesn't have have all the delays my Vista PC does (it seems like everything I do on the PC has a 5-minute delay associated with it). But failure to sync Droid with Outlook kills that idea.

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I haven't tested Outlook or Entourage on a Mac, but if Outlook/Entourage can sync with the Hotmail server, then the Hotmail servers can sync with the Android device. Are you able to sync with the Hotmail server? (You can go in through the web browser interface to check.)
I'm not clear what you mean by going through the browser to see if I'm syncing with the Hotmail server. Do you mean simply checking my Hotmail calendar through my browser to see if calendar and contact entries are the same as on my desktop computer?

My Outlook for Mac receives Hotmail emails, but none of the Hotmail calendar stuff shows up in my Outlook calendar, and none of the contact or task input I make in Hotmail shows up in Outlook for Mac. Likewise, calendar and contact changes made in Outlook for Mac don't show up in the Hotmail system.

Actually, iCal syncs perfectly with GMail's calendar (i.e., when I enter an appointment into my Droid, it shows up in iCal). But it doesn't show up in Outlook for Mac.
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But what you're saying is that the Hotmail Contacts list that appears in Outlook (PC version) will sync with the contacts on the Hotmail Exchange server - correct?
Correct. And they will also sync with you Android device if you've added a Hotmail account to it per the instructions linked in my original post.

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Ehhh ... really I'm talking about the Gmail calendar that I've synced to Outlook using Google Calendar Sync, which works well on the PC.
If you're happy with Google Calendar Sync, I guess you could continue to use it. But you can sync to Hotmail without wasting memory on Google Calendar Sync. Doing so would also provide the convenience of keeping your contacts and calendar in the same account on Outlook.

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Ideally I'd like to migrate all my routine daily tasks (MS Office, Adobe Acrobat, accounting/bookkeeping for my small business) to my Mac because the machine doesn't have have all the delays my Vista PC does (it seems like everything I do on the PC has a 5-minute delay associated with it)
Windows Vista is a torturously slow piece of garbage. WindowsXP was better in my opinion. Windows 7 is even better. If your Vista PC isn't too old (like maybe a 2.5GHz Pentium 4,with 1GB of RAM, or better), you might want to consider upgrading to Windows 7.

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I'm not clear what you mean by going through the browser to see if I'm syncing with the Hotmail server. Do you mean simply checking my Hotmail calendar through my browser to see if calendar and contact entries are the same as on my desktop computer?
Yes. If you check your Hotmail calendar and contacts through your web browser, you can at least determine if your PC, Mac, or Android device is syncing with the Hotmail server. For example, enter a new contact or calendar item on your PC and see if it syncs to Hotmail. Do the same with your Mac. Do the same with your Android device. Maybe add a new contact or calendar item to Hotmail through a web interface and see if it syncs to your devices. I was just suggesting that as a way to help pinpoint the problem.

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My Outlook for Mac receives Hotmail emails, but none of the Hotmail calendar stuff shows up in my Outlook calendar, and none of the contact or task input I make in Hotmail shows up in Outlook for Mac. Likewise, calendar and contact changes made in Outlook for Mac don't show up in the Hotmail system.
I don't have Outlook on Mac so I can't help. Sorry. Is there maybe the Office-Mac equivalent of the "Outlook Hotmail Connector" program for Outlook on Mac that you need to download?

Note that (as I mentioned in my original post) "Tasks", "Journal", and "Notes" are not synchronized through Hotmail's servers-- just mail, contacts, and calendar.
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Thank you RazzMaTazz for figuring this out and sharing directions. After many hours of searching, I think this really is the best solution I can find. I will be switching away from my palm when my Incredible 2 arrives in the mail. I am used to being able to sync Outlook calendar, contacts, tasks, and memos with my Palm.

I plan to do as much set up today as possible without yet having the phone. The first step is to just clean out my contacts a bit and see if any really long notes can be shortened or deleted.

My set up is to use Outlook to view: my work email (not a gmail account), Hotmail Calendar and Contacts. I use three computers in my home (Windows 7, XP), and am thrilled that I can edit Calendar and Contacts on any of them, and it will sync across all three plus the phone. That will be heavenly!

So far, I've set up a new hotmail account for myself, added it to my Outlook 2007 on two computers, and am experimenting with synching among two computers and hotmail webmail.

I'm having a little trouble, although the Contacts are synching correctly:

1. When I add a contact on one of my computers, it is unpredictable how many minutes it will take to show up on the other computer. And, sometimes, the new contact will show up on the other computer, but not yet on the Hotmail webmail. Is there a way to make the synching occur on a predictable timeline? I could just try not worrying about it, since they do eventually show up everywhere, so far.

2. I'd like to keep my old contacts in Outlook as back-up, but don't want to see them or have them open as the default contacts. I am using Outlook 2007. Any tips?

I wanted to leave my old Contacts files in Outlook (as back-up), but make my Hotmail Contacts the default Contacts displayed in Outlook, so I followed these directions: (1) On the Standard toolbar, click Address Book (or open the Address Book by clicking Address Book on the Tools menu), (2) Click Tools, and then click Options. In the Show this address list first box, click the name of the address book that you want. (3) Click OK, and then close the Address Book.

The problem is that when I reopen Outlook and click on Calendar at the bottom of my left-menu, the old Contact folder is the automatically displayed one, and I have to click on my Hotmail Contacts in order to switch to it.

Also, I apologize for asking this question here, and hope not to derail the thread, but can you please tell me your advice for synching notes and tasks? Ideally with outlook, but if not possible, then fine - I'm trying to be open-minded! I saw that Astrid now asks for access to contacts, which bothered some people. Is Astrid still the best option? Because you were so thoughtful about this calendar/contacts solution, I figured whatever plan you use for notes/tasks is probably good too!
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Jflower: I don't have any recommendation for syncing Outlook's Notes and Tasks. Although I've been using Outlook religiously since 1998, I've never used "Notes". I guess I tend to write Word Documents or write myself emails, or make myself an email "draft" for things that I want to note. I use "Tasks" on my main desktop PC but mostly as a "To Do" list (that I could just as easily keep as a Word document or "draft" email, so I've never felt a burning need to sync Tasks. I realize that "Notes" and "Tasks" have other features, and that especially "Tasks" have some cool features like "Categories" and the ability to assign them to others, so I'd like to see Hotmail sync Tasks. But I can't recommend a solution. Two things you might want to consider.

1) Syncdroid.net has a comparative list of the 43 third-party Outlook-Android syncronization software options. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a free option for syncing Notes & Tasks.
2) As a workaround, if you don't mind keeping (or copying) notes and tasks as "draft" Gmail email, then you could always have them available on your Android device as a "draft" email. Or if you don't mind keeping your notes and tasks as documents, you could keep them synced between your PCs and Android devices as documetns on something like Dropbox.

On a related side note, since (like me) you seem to like syncing your PCs, I recently started using the free Windows Live Mesh to sync (up to 5GB of stuff) between my PCs through the cloud (and optionally storing a copy on the cloud). I've also recently started using the free Windows SkyDrive to store (up to 25GB) of stuff in the cloud. Windows SkyDrive is accessible in a somewhat limited way on Android using the free app, Sorami. Unfortunately the Windows Live Mesh section of your SkyDrive account is not accessible through Sorami.
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Hi everyone,

I just joined this forum in an effort to find a way to stop my EVO from duplicating Contacts upon synching with Outlook using USB. I've tried the native HTC synch program and a couple others, all without success at reducing the duplication.

Though this thread is long, it suggests that I inadvertently may have found a source for my original problem. I certainly hope so.

If anyone has experienced the same multi-duplicating in EVO Contacts and has found an alternate solution, I'd be most grateful if you would share it with me. I have just completed culling the duplicates in EVO and Outlook on my main computer and am not trying a new synch until I feel confident the duplicating will stop. Most annoying.

I like the tenor of this thread--respectful, helping people helping people. It's great. Thanks for all the information and for kicking it off, Razz.
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Thanks so much for the reply and extra info about synching among pc's. I go through phases where I want to do that, so I'll save that info for the future. For now, I rely on accessing files as needed through the network. Day-to-day it's my outlook calendar and tasks that would be most nice to have in sync. The calendar issue is now solved (thanks again!).

I just set up my calendar, and I have to say that the initial setup for calendar and contacts to sync from outlook to hotmail was SHOCKINGLY painless for me. Good thing too, since I now need to do the same for three family members (we all use outlook and all just ordered our first androids). I look forward to adding in the phone part once it arrives in the mail.

I need to select a good calendar app/widget that will display a good daily agenda of calendar and tasks. I'm used to the daily agenda displayed in my old palm. Any recommendations for that? I do not use gmail, if that is relevant, and I don't know yet what app I'll use for tasks (astrid?). Thanks for any ideas!
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Though this thread is long, it suggests that I inadvertently may have found a source for my original problem. I certainly hope so.
My original post is pretty long, but if you follow the instructions in my original post, it's pretty easy to implement Outlook-Hotmail synchronization for contacts and calendar. I've tried to take feedback about issues (from this thread) and then edit the original post to include key issues that have been brought up, so you probably don't really need to read through this entire thread.

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If anyone has experienced the same multi-duplicating in EVO Contacts and has found an alternate solution, I'd be most grateful if you would share it with me.
I think most duplicate contact issues stem from the following. Your phone is capable of containing basically three types of contacts:
1) "Google contacts" which are, by default, synced with any Gmail account that you have on your Android device.
2) "Corporate contacts", which are synced with any corporate Exchange Server account or Hotmail/Live-Mail/MSN-Mail account you have on your Android device.
3) "Phone-only contacts", which are only stored on your phone and are only synchronized through software that you install on your PC or that your phone store may have on their PC. These "Phone-only" contacts are not synchronized, unless you do so with the aforementioned PC software.

Duplicates tend to occur when more than one of the above contact types are added to the Android device. For example, if you have a Gmail account with some contacts, you buy an Android phone for the first time, and the phone-store representative transfers your contacts from your old phone to your new phone as "phone-only" contacts, then when you add your Gmail account to your Android phone, you'll end up with two duplicate contacts-- the "Google Contacts" from your Gmail account, and the "Phone-only" contacts from your old phone. Or, for example, if you add multiple Gmail accounts to your Android device (each containing contacts) you'll get duplicate "Google contacts". Or for example, if you add a Gmail account and a Hotmail account or an Exchange Account to your Android device (each containing contacts) you'll get duplicate "Google contacts" and "Corporate Contacts".

You can check the sources of your duplicate contacts by opening a contact, hitting the "settings" button on your phone, and then selecting "Edit". At the top of the contact, you'll see "Google contact", or "Corporate contact" or "Phone-only contact". Sometimes they'll be merged together and if you scroll down, you'll see the contact information repeated, with the contact type (Google, Corporate, Phone-only) displayed at the top of each section.

If you plan to use Outlook & Hotmail as a way to sync contacts, I would recommend that you delete your contacts from Gmail (or as I note in my original post, change your sync settings so that you don't synchronize contacts with Gmail). Sync your contacts only with your Hotmail account. If your master list of contacts is on Outlook, then I would also suggest that you don't let the store representative transfer your old contacts over to your new phone (which generally creates the "phone-only" duplicate contacts mess.) Or just delete all of your phone-only contacts.

If you have both a Hotmail account and a Gmail account on your phone, then (as I mentioned in my original post) when you create a new contact from your phone, you'll be asked under which account you'd like to create the contact, such as your Gmail account or your Hotmail account.

Note that at any time you can turn on or turn off the synchronzation of contacts with any of your Google or Exchange/Hotmail accounts.

I hope that made sense. Good luck.
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Thanks so much for the reply and extra info about synching among pc's. I go through phases where I want to do that, so I'll save that info for the future. For now, I rely on accessing files as needed through the network. Day-to-day it's my outlook calendar and tasks that would be most nice to have in sync. The calendar issue is now solved (thanks again!).
I'm glad it worked for you. I have a desktop PC and a laptop PC that I like to keep synchronized. Laptops can easily get lost or stolen, so I don't synchronize sensitive information to the laptop. I just synchronize a few folders on my desktop and in my "My Documents". I also selected the Windows Live Mesh options to syncrhonize my "Favorites", and my Microsoft Office "preferences". Very easy. Very cool. Microsoft also offers a tool called "Sync Toy" that enables PC-PC synchronization (and there are lots of open-source alternatives which you can find listed on Wikipedia) but I haven't tried any of the others.

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I need to select a good calendar app/widget that will display a good daily agenda of calendar and tasks. I'm used to the daily agenda displayed in my old palm. Any recommendations for that?
I just use the stock Android calendar app, but I've seen several threads here discussing which calendar app is "the best" or meets specific needs. Here's one of them.
Best Calendar App?

The "search box" on the upper right of this website doesn't always work, but if you select the "Search" link and then select "Advanced" you can search for "Calendar" and find a bunch of different threads on the topic.
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I am in my second day of using the phone with this sync system, and I'm having a little problem. There was a calendar item that I added to the phone as a test item. It showed up on all my Outlook hotmail calendars, so that was good. BUT, when I deleted it from the phone yesterday, it stayed on the hotmail web calendar and the hotmail Outlook calendars. This event is no longer on the phone, but today it still shows up in the other locations. Any advice on how to make sure that changes made on the phone are synched??

Also, I'd appreciate advice on calendar apps. I cannot figure out which ones would work with this sync setup. It seems that Jorte, the most commonly recommended one, does not work. If anyone is using this sync strategy and has a calendar app recommendation, I'd appreciate it.

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I am in my second day of using the phone with this sync system, and I'm having a little problem. There was a calendar item that I added to the phone as a test item. It showed up on all my Outlook hotmail calendars, so that was good. BUT, when I deleted it from the phone yesterday, it stayed on the hotmail web calendar and the hotmail Outlook calendars. This event is no longer on the phone, but today it still shows up in the other locations. Any advice on how to make sure that changes made on the phone are synched??!
I am not exeriencing that problem on the stock calendar of my LG Optimus S (Android 2.2). In fact I just tested creating and then deleting an event on my phone. It synced perfectly and quickly with the Hotmail server.

Since your calendar event synced when creating it from the phone, it's hard to imagine why it wouldn't sync when deleting it. I'm grasping at straws so I can only suggest rechecking the obvious.
1) Please make sure that calendar sync is on. From within Android' calendar app, press the settings button, select "More", then "Calendars", and then tap each account to cycle through the option of synced/visible, synced/not-visible, or not-synced/not-visible.)
2) From the home screen, hit the settings button, then "Accounts & Sync", and then select the Hotmail account, then make sure the checkbox next to "Sync Calendar" is checked. You might want to first note the date and time of the last calendar sync below where it says, "Sync Calendar". Was it synced recently?
3) From that same screen, perhaps uncheck and recheck. The synchronization circular arrows symbol should appear. Is the deleted event still not synced?
4) And (forgive me) please make sure that you'e on the same Hotmail calendar webpage and that you've refreshed the webpage.

I can't offer any advice on other 3rd party calendar apps that sync nicely with Hotmail. I would expect virtually all modern calendar apps to be built ontop of the built-in Android calendar functionality and built-in Android ActiveSync tecnology, so I would think that most, if not all, modern calendar apps would sync. Please let us know if you solve the problem or find a good 3rd party calendar app. Good luck!
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Thanks for the reply.

I'm still in a synchronization mess. Ever since I installed Calengoo on my phone and then tried entering an item on my Outlook (running Windows XP) to see if things would sync properly, my synching has been broken on that computer.

Interestingly, the synching is fine between phone and hotmail and between my Windows 7 desktop, a different Windows XP laptop, and hotmail/phone.

I have no idea why installing Calengoo on my android phone (and then entering a new calendar item into Outlook) would have caused this problem on the computer where I updated outlook while Calengoo was installed. And, I'm not sure how to solve it. I've tried uninstalling the outlook hotmail connector on that laptop and setting up the connector and hotmail account on that computer from scratch. It did not work.

I'm not sure what to try next, so if anyone has tips, please let me know.

Also, if anyone has successfuly combined a calendar app on their phone with this hotmail/outlook set up, please let us know!

I don't really know what to do next. Totally bummed out that one of my computers no longer syncs to hotmail. And, because I'm a heavy user of the calendar, I do need to be able to use a full-featured calendar app rather than the android calendar. Hope I can figure this out!
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RazzMaTazz,
quick question: got my first android phone this week, an HTC Sensation. i've synced it with HTC Sync, which is so far not too reliable, but was able to get all 1700+ contacts and my calendar from outlook 2010 in there. if i follow your method, should i first wipe my contacts and calendar to start with a clean slate? really want to keep it lean and simple.
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i've synced it with HTC Sync, which is so far not too reliable, but was able to get all 1700+ contacts and my calendar from outlook 2010 in there. if i follow your method, should i first wipe my contacts and calendar to start with a clean slate?
It's hard for me to say for certain since I don't have your model of phone, and I'm not sure what you mean by "in there". If by "in there" you mean as "Phone-only contacts", I would say definitely delete them (after you do a backup for safety). If by "in there" you mean that your contacts are now "Google contacts" are now synchronized with the Gmail servers, then I guess you could choose to simply stop syncing contacts and calendar for that Gmail account.

But overall, I guess I would recommend that you start with a clean slate by doing the following:
1) Make sure you have a copy of your contacts and calendar backed up for safety.
2) Turn off the HTC sync so that you don't accidentally delete everything in Outlook.
3) And then, delete the contacts and calendar information so that you can start with a clean slate. (Eliminating duplicate contacts is torture.)

(You probably already know how to backup your Outlook stuff-- and the instructions for doing so vary with the version of Outlook-- but if you're not sure how to do it, you can look up how to "export a PST file".)

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razz,
thanx for the quick reply.
shoulda been more specific, but NO, not using the google contacts or calendar. all the built-in android apps only. trying to avoid the google cloud as they deleted my calendar twice last year. no fun. and yes, do know about backing up .pst files and have done so redundantly, so i'm covered. so now i only have one more question, and it's concerning how this will work within outlook. right now i only have my yahoo acct. if i add a hotmail acct to outlook, and import contacts and calendar into it from yahoo, how do those two accts stay synced within outlook? because i don't want to switch over to hotmail, i'd still need the yahoo acct contacts current and synced with my phone (HTC Sensation by the way). would your method address that? sorry if i sound blockheaded, but there's just a lot of routing involved and don't want to botch it. would love to get it right the first time!
again, thanx for the info and replies,
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so now i only have one more question, and it's concerning how this will work within outlook. right now i only have my yahoo acct. if i add a hotmail acct to outlook, and import contacts and calendar into it from yahoo, how do those two accts stay synced within outlook? because i don't want to switch over to hotmail, i'd still need the yahoo acct contacts current and synced with my phone (HTC Sensation by the way). would your method address that?
The bottom line is that if you have Yahoo Mail and Hotmail accounts on Outlook & your Android device then you can use Yahoo Mail (or Hotmail) for mail and you can use Hotmail to keep your contacts and calendar synchronized between Outlook and Android. But it seems that maybe you misunderstand the way the technology works, so at the risk of offending or boring you, here's a long-winded explanation--that you can feel free to skip. ...

Unless Yahoo is offering you an Exchange/MAPI based mail service which I don't think is available here in the US (unlikely), or I'm misunderstanding you, I think perhaps you misunderstand the relationship between Outlook and Yahoo. (I have a Yahoo acccount in Outlook.) Forgive me if I'm wrong, but let me try to explain what I think might be your misunderstanding.

Yahoo Mail is an email service that you can access from Outlook either through POP3 or IMAP protocols. POP3 & IMAP offer the ability for PIM clients (like Outlook) to access mail only. Outlook can't access any contacts or calendar information stored on Yahoo. It's possible for you to "manually" store your contacts on Yahoo (on their servers) either by typing them into the Yahoo Mail web interface, or by exporting them from Outlook and then importing them into Yahoo. But to my knowledge it is not possible for Outlook to access any contact or calendar information stored on Yahoo because Yahoo only supports POP & IMAP protocols. (The same is true of Gmail.) Hotmail, however, uses the MAPI protocol which lets Outlook exchange mail, contacts, and calendar information with the Hotmail servers. If you only have a Yahoo Mail account on Outlook, it may seem like your contacts are on Yahoo, but your contacts are really stored in Outlook (in your PST file on you PC) unless you've also manually exported/imported them to/from Yahoo. Outlook simply uses Yahoo's servers as a mail portal.

When you add a Hotmail account to Outlook, that acccount will appear on the left "Navigation Pane" of Outlook. (That's especially obvious if you use the "Folder List" view, Ctrl+6). The Hotmail account has its own set of folders (like those already in your "Outlook Data File") for stuff like "Inbox", "Calendar", & "Contacts". If you use this method (and copy/move your contacts & calendar to the Hotmail account, then you'll basically need to stop using the old contacts and calendar folders from your "Outlook Data File", and start using the contacts and calendar folders in the Hotmail account, because only those folders will be synchronized with the Hotmail servers and your Android device. However, just because your contacts and calendar are stored on the Hotmail servers, that doesn't mean that you have to use Hotmail for email. You can still use Yahoo for email from the Yahoo account that you'll see on the left Navigation Pane in Outlook. Personally, I primarily use Gmail for my email service, but Hotmail for syncrhonizing contacts and calendar. However, I also have two Yahoo mail accounts in Outlook (though I don't bother putting them on my Android phone). When I go to send an email from any account (Gmail, Yahoo, or Hotmail) Outlook uses the email addresses stored in the address book of my Hotmail account.

On a side note... I've long had Yahoo Mail accounts (mostly because it was a required part of my DSL service) and I've added them to Outlook, but I stopped using them when the Gmail service became available because Gmail offered IMAP access, which enables synchronization of all mail folders (Inbox, Sent Mail, Saved Mail, Drafts, etc.) whereas, at the time, Yahoo Mail only offered POP access, which does not enable synchronization between multiple devices. However, I recently noticed that Yahoo seems to now support IMAP. If you're going to use Yahoo mail, I'd recommend that you do so through IMAP so that all of your PCs and Android devices remain synchronized. If you delete an email on one device, it will be deleted on all devices. If you save an email to a folder on one device, it will be availabe on that folder on all devices. If you send an email on one device, it will be in the "Sent Mail" folder of all devices. Etc.
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razz,

not offending or boring at all. only enlightening

i use yahoo mail thru outlook 2010, but i hadn't mentioned that i also installed Yahoo IMAP Connector, which is a really neat $10 app that allows all the IMAP features that should be there to begin with.

BUT, i hadn't realized that all the accts in outlook share calendar and contacts, which is great. and i always have the 'navigation pane' open on the left, so that also makes sense. thought maybe the new hotmail acct would start another .pst file and that maybe it would be a separate calendar and contact list. but it sounds like that's not the case from your explanation. i think the clincher is when you state: "When I go to send an email from any account (Gmail, Yahoo, or Hotmail) Outlook uses the email addresses stored in the address book of my Hotmail account." that was my main concern. didn't want to constantly be importing and exporting. my calendar changes on a daily basis as i'm self-employed. married to the calendar and want to keep them current on my phone and pc.

thanx again. really helpful,
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thought maybe the new hotmail acct would start another .pst file and that maybe it would be a separate calendar and contact list. but it sounds like that's not the case from your explanation. i think the clincher is when you state: "When I go to send an email from any account (Gmail, Yahoo, or Hotmail) Outlook uses the email addresses stored in the address book of my Hotmail account." that was my main concern.
Adding a Hotmail account to Outlook will create separate calendar & contact folders. But you'll just use those instead of your old calendar & contact folders. You can just collapse your old data file so that you don't have to view it anymore. Your Hotmail account will be stored as an OST file on your PC (which is different from a PST file). You can export your Hotmail OST file to a PST if, for some reason, you want to back it up. But since your stuff will be stored on Hotmail's geographically redundant RAID server farms, you really don't need to worry too much about backups of your Outlook stuff. Even if all of your PCs and Android devices were to vanish, you'd be able to simply buy a new PC or Android device, and enter your account information. All of your stuff will magically download from the Hotmail (MAPI) and Yahoo (IMAP)servers. (That's nice if you buy a new PC or Android device.)
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I think I've read every post in this thread - even the tense ones - and i can't seem to find any info about syncing my pop email with the Droid 3. (which I'm considering upgrading to from Blackberry, IF I can synchronize my Outlook!) I have an interior design firm and website and my email is pop/smtp using website name. (xxxxxx.com) I am going to want to use that email - not gmail or hotmail - so, is it possible to synchronize? It is so easy with BB...

I appreciate any help! I'm NOT a techie!

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You can add a POP account to your Android device and read and reply to your POP email on both your PC (Outlook) and your Android device. However, (unlike IMAP or MAPI access to mail, available from Gmail, Hotmail, et al) POP doesn't truly support the synchronization of mail between multiple devices through the mail servers. With IMAP or MAPI based mail, if you delete an item from your Inbox, it will be deleted everywhere. If you send an email from one device, it will appear in the "Sent" mail folder of all devices. If you save a mail to a folder, it will be saved in that folder on all devices. POP doesn't enable that kind of synchronization. You can read your mail on multiple devices and delete it from the mail server (if you set it up to download but leave a copy on the server). But your "Sent" or "Saved" mail will only be in the "Sent" or "Saved" folders of the device that you used to send or save it. Maybe you can live with that limitation-- which isn't so bad really. If so, then just open up your phone's email app, hit the "settings" button, and then select "Add account". From there, just enter your POP mail settings.

IMAP and MAPI are superior to POP in their ability to synchronize. Consequently, many mail service providers who used to only offer POP access, have added IMAP access. (Yahoo for example.) So you may want to check if your mail service provider has added IMAP access, and if so, change the way you access your email on Outlook from POP to IMAP.
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Hallelujah! For Android version 2.2 or newer, we no longer need 3rd party software or an Exchange Server to synchronize contacts and/or calendar items with Microsoft Outlook or Windows Live Mail programs (which I'll collectively refer to here as "Outlook").

Hotmail, MSN Mail, & Microsoft Live Mail (which collectively I'll refer to as "Hotmail") now enable synchronization between Outlook and Android's standard, built-in apps for contacts (a.k.a. "people"), calendar, and email through Android's built-in ActiveSync functionality. And you don't even need to use Hotmail for email. If you're not familiar with Hotmail, it's Microsoft's free webmail service, which is similar to Gmail or Yahoo Mail except that Hotmail contacts & calendars integrate & synchronize nicely with Outlook. You simply need to:
1) Add a free Hotmail account to Outlook 2010, or add it to Outlook 2003/2007, or add it to Windows Live Mail. (The Hotmail account with new folders for contacts & calendar will appear on the left sidebar of Outlook below your current email accounts.)
2) Copy & paste (or import) your contacts & calendar to those new folders in Outlook. (See instructions below.)
3) Add that Hotmail account to your Android device's per the instructions at this link.

More details follow...

You do not need to use Hotmail for email. You can still use Gmail (or whatever email service you prefer) as your primary email account on Outlook and on your Android device. You can choose whether or not to sync and/or view Hotmail as an additional email account, or as your primary email account, or not at all. (See below.)

All of your Outlook/Hotmail contacts will appear in a "contacts" folder on the left sidebar of Outlook, and will automatically appear inside the standard built-in Android app for contacts, along with any Gmail contacts, if you like. But at any time, you can simply change the ActiveSync settings on your Android device for each Hotmail and Gmail account to choose whether you want to sync the contacts in each of those accounts. (To do so, open the Android Contacts app, press the settings button, select "Accounts", and then tap each account to toggle sync on/off.) You can use your Hotmail-based contacts to make phone calls, send emails (from whichever email account you choose), get turn-by-turn directions, etc, just like you would with a Gmail-based "Google Contact".

All of your Outlook/Hotmail calendar items will appear in a calendar on the left sidebar of Outlook and will automatically appear inside the standard built-in Android calendar app along with any Gmail calendar items, if you like. (The items will be color-coded by account.) But at any time, you can simply change the ActiveSync settings on your Android device for each Hotmail and Gmail account to choose whether you want to sync and/or view the calendar items in each of those accounts. (To do so, open the Android calendar app, press the settings button, select "More", then "Calendars", and then tap each account to cycle through the option of synced/visible, synced/not-visible, or not-synced/not-visible.)

All of your Outlook/Hotmail email items will appear in folders (inbox, draft, sent, etc.) on the left sidebar of Outlook, and automatically appear inside the standard built-in Android "Email" app along with any Gmail email items, in a "merged" inbox if you like. (The emails will be color-coded by account.) Or you can choose to view the inbox for each account separately. (To do so, open the Android Email app, press the settings button, then select "Accounts" and make your selection of which inbox to view.) Or at any time, you can simply change the ActiveSync settings on your Android device for each Hotmail and Gmail account to choose whether you want to even sync the email items in each of those accounts. (From the home screen, press the settings button, select "Settings", then "Accounts & sync", and make your selections for each account. Under "Email check frequency" select "Never" if you don't want to sync Hotmail email.)

So for example: On your Android devices you could choose to sync both your Hotmail email and Gmail IMAP email. You could choose make your Gmail account your default inbox (but you can also easily check your Hotmail inbox anytime you like, and you can send mail from either account). And you could choose to view and sync the contacts and calendar for a Hotmail account (but not to sync contacts and calendar with Gmail). Then your email, contacts, and calendar items would be perfectly syncrhonized between all of your Outlook-PCs and all of your Android devices. (This example is how I synchronize my desktop PC, laptop PC, and Android phone.)

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Synchronization is done over any Internet connection (cellular-data, WiFi, or wired).

The synchronization can be set up to syncrhonize automatically (push new stuff), manually, or on a timed basis (like once per day or once per hour).

Your contacts and calendar will also be available through Hotmail's (password-protected) web interface, from any device with web browsing capability, just like Gmail or Yahoo Mail.

If you have multiple PCs running Outlook, your contacts, calendar, and Hotmail can be synchronized across all of your PCs (as well as your Android devices) through Hotmail.

If you use this method to synchronize your contacts, your contacts will appear on your phone in your contacts folder like normal, but if you open a contact to edit it, you will notice that it is designated as a "Corporate Contact" (which is a misnomer) rather than a "Google Contact" and those contacts will be out of reach from very scary Google. (But of course, then Microsoft will have access to them... which you may or may not find as scary.)

No third party software app is needed on your phone or your PC.

Caveats:
You need to install an Outlook add-in called Outlook Hotmail Connector (which is a free download from Microsoft that enables Outlook to syncrhonize with Hotmail).

You must keep your Outlook contacts and calendar events in the default contacts and calendar folders of your Hotmail account on Outlook.

Your Hotmail contact, calendar, & email items will not be synchronized with Gmail (which is arguably a good thing if you don't trust Google with your contact information).

Your phone's built-in voice dialer will work with the Hotmail contacts, but "Google Voice Search" will not recognize those contacts (unless you also keep those contacts on the Gmail servers). That's because "Google Voice Search" searches through the contacts on the Gmail servers, not the contacts on your phone. If you want to use Google Voice Search on your contacts, you could occassionally export your Outlook/Hotmail contacts to Gmail contacts (but not necessarily sync them with your Android device).

Although Outlook supports multiple contacts folders and subfolders for each email account, Hotmail only supports a single contact folder. If you want to maintain and synchronize multiple separate contacts folders on Outlook & on your Android devices, then you must create multiple Hotmail accounts and add them to Outlook and the Email app on your Android devices.

Although Outlook and Hotmail support multiple calendars, only the default calendar will be syncrhonized with Android. If you want to maintain multiple calendars on Outlook, then you must create multiple Hotmail accounts and add them to Outlook and the Email app on your Android devices.

Each field in Hotmail (like Name, Company Name, Street Address, Notes, etc.) has a maximum number characters that can be synchronized with the Hotmail servers. The specific limits for each field vary, but based on information from Microsoft's website, it seems that: most name fields are limited to 40 characters, street address fields are limited to 256 characters, company names and titles are limited to 120 characters, and the notes field is limited to 1024 characters. You can have more characters than that in the Outlook contact on your PC, but the data will be truncated on Hotmail the server and on the Android device, so you should probably try to stay within those limits. If, on Outlook, you try to copy or create a Hotmail contact that exceeds the maximum character limit, you will be warned and asked to confirm that you are willing to truncate the data on the Hotmail server. When you create a Hotmail contact from your phone, your phone won't let you type more than the maximum number of characters for a given field.

At this point, contact thumbnail photos, URLs, IM address & Job titles are not synchronized. You can input those fields in Outlook and you can input them on your phone, but they are not synchronized between Outlook and your phone.

Not all of Outlook's other fields are synchronized with the phone because (I think) Android doesn't have such fields to contain them. For example, "Categories" will not be synchronized from Outlook to the phone, but it will remain in Outlook. Based on my experiement, I know that the following 23 fields synchronize to the phone, but there may be some others.
First name, Last name, Company, Suffix, Home phone, Home2 phone, Home fax, Business phone, Business2 phone , Business fax, Callback #, Home fax #, Mobile #, Pager #, Radio #, Email 1, Email 2, Email 3, Office address, Home address, Nickname, Birthday*, & Notes.

* The birthday field from Outlook displays in the Hotmail/Android contact and on the Hotmail/Android calendar, but you cannot edit the birthday field on the Android device.

To migrate from Gmail-based contacts to Hotmail-based calendar & contact from Outlook:
1) Make sure that all of your contacts (from your phone & Gmail) are in an Outlook Contact folder on your PC. (You may wish to back them up for safety.)
2) Delete all of your Gmail contacts from your Gmail account and your phone (if you don't want duplicates) or change the ActiveSync settings to stop synchronizing contacts with Gmail.
3) Add a Hotmail account to Outlook.
4) Copy & paste the contacts from your Outlook contacts folder into to your Hotmail contacts folder. I think this method is probably the easiest. But you can also try to use the free Windows Live Contact Importer from Microsoft, though I haven't tried it myself.*
5) Add that same Hotmail account to the Email app on your Android device and set up your synchronization preferences.

* Note that Hotmail only allows 1000 contacts to be imported at one time. If you have more than 1000 contacts, you'll have to copy them over in multiple tries. Note also that, in order to prevent professional spammers from using Hotmail, new Hotmail accounts are initially, temporarily limited to 1500 contacts, but that limit is increased (and virtually unlimited) if you either prove yourself to be a legitimate user over time, or if you follow these instructions at the Windows Live website. If you follow those instructions, and if you add your social networking sites (which is not necessary), then you may want to review your Windows Live/Hotmail profile and remove the checkmarks for "notifications" so that you don't receive update notifications from your social networking sites.

To move your calendar from your Outlook Personal folders calendar to your Hotmail-based calendar:
1) Export your calendar as a PST file.
2) Then go to your Hotmail calendar and import that PST file into your Hotmail calendar.

From that point on, stop using contacts and calendar in your "Outlook Data File" on Outlook, and start using the "contacts" and "calendar" under your Hotmail account (which you'll find on the left sidebar of Outlook). Your Outlook/Hotmail contacts & calendar will be synchronized between your Outlook-PCs and your Android devices. You may even want to collapse your "Outlook Data File" so that you don't have to look at it.

When creating contacts or calendar events on your Android device, be sure to create them under your Hotmail account (which will appear as an option when you create a new item).

At last... a good, free, synchronization option for Outlook! Goodbye Gmail Contacts. Hello Outlook/Hotmail.
I have problem trying to setup the Exchange ActiveSync with my work email which I did set up before on HTC Desire and worked well and no problem. I'm now using Galaxy S2 and try to set up on this phone but it seemed to clash the system when I did try first time...did everything till the end then the phoned seemed to be on/off (reboot) then only the phone brand/makes shows on screen and I can't go to other page or press/do anything...

Anyway, press the volume key, the menu key and the power key at the same time to reboot the phone and set to factory setting (as per suggestion from some source) and start all over again. This time I can't do the sync either via ActiveSync or POP3 or IMAP. They all failed either way...so I wonder if anyone could help me with this pelase. Tae
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[QUOTE=RazzMaTazz;2951080]You can add a POP account to your Android device and read and reply to your POP email on both your PC (Outlook) and your Android device. However, (unlike IMAP or MAPI access to mail, available from Gmail, Hotmail, et al) POP doesn't truly support the synchronization of mail between multiple devices through the mail servers. With IMAP or MAPI based mail, if you delete an item from your Inbox, it will be deleted everywhere. If you send an email from one device, it will appear in the "Sent" mail folder of all devices. If you save a mail to a folder, it will be saved in that folder on all devices. POP doesn't enable that kind of synchronization. You can read your mail on multiple devices and delete it from the mail server (if you set it up to download but leave a copy on the server). But your "Sent" or "Saved" mail will only be in the "Sent" or "Saved" folders of the device that you used to send or save it. Maybe you can live with that limitation-- which isn't so bad really. If so, then just open up your phone's email app, hit the "settings" button, and then select "Add account". From there, just enter your POP mail settings.

IMAP and MAPI are superior to POP in their ability to synchronize. Consequently, many mail service providers who used to only offer POP access, have added IMAP access. (Yahoo for example.) So you may want to check if your mail service provider has added IMAP access, and if so, change the way you access your email on Outlook from POP to IMAP.

Thanks for this information - really helpful! My email server does offer IMAP, so I'm going to change the settings in Outlook, and so maybe switching from a BB to Droid WILL work for me, after all.

But, another question: will I able to synchronize my Outlook notes, tasks, contacts and calendar or will I need to follow the steps you outlined at the beginning of this thread? Verizon told me that I would need to add my gmail account to Outlook and synchronize that way. But I'm not sure if that will sync the tasks, etc.
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But, another question: will I able to synchronize my Outlook notes, tasks, contacts and calendar or will I need to follow the steps you outlined at the beginning of this thread?
If you add an IMAP email account (like Gmail) to your Outlook-PC and your Android phone, then the IMAP mail sever will keep your PC and phone synchronized for that email account, but not for calendar, contacts, tasks, notes, etc. IMAP has no ability to handle anything but email.

If you add a MAPI account (like Hotmail) to your Outlook-PC and your Android phone, then the MAPI server will keep your PC and phone synchronized for that email account, contacts, & calendar, but not for tasks, notes, etc. MAPI has no ability to handle anything but email, contacts, & calendar.

Android doesn't have a built-in way of synchronizing with Outlook, because Google's strategic goal is to kill Microsoft Office and to get their hands on your valuable contacts database. So there are 43 third-party apps & PC programs that enable synchronization of your Android device with Outlook, some of which support the synchronization of Tasks, Notes, etc. They generally use two different methods. One method (like that employed by Gsyncit) is to synchronize Outlook with your Gmail account, and then synchronize the Android device with the Gmail servers. The downside is that Google gets its hands on your contact information (which they've admitted they'll use to target you and your contacts with advertising, etc.) The other method (like that employed by MyPhoneExplorer) is to directly sync your Android Device with your Outlook-PC (either by USB or by WiFi when you're on the same WiFi router). The downside is that you have to be near that PC, and usually manually invoke the synchronization.

I have tried some of those third party solutions. In my opinion, the Hotmail solution that I describe in my original post is the best way to synchronize contacts & calendar because it's free and it works automatically no matter where you are. I primarily use Gmail (IMAP) for email, but I use Hotmail to synchronize contacts & calendar between my desktop PC, laptop PC, and Android phone. (Keep in mind that you can add multiple Gmail accounts, Hotmail accounts, Yahoo accounts, etc to both Outlook and your Android device. You don't have to choose one.) I don't use Outlook "Notes" but I do use "Tasks". However, I don't feel a need to have either one on my phone. For me the "Tasks" feature is basically a to-do list, which I can work around by keeping a to-do list as a "draft" email in my draft mailbox (which is then automatically synchronized between all devices).

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Verizon told me that I would need to add my gmail account to Outlook and synchronize that way. But I'm not sure if that will sync the tasks, etc.
The Verizon employee is wrong. You don't need to add your Gmail account to Outlook. Even if you do, it won't syncrhonize with Outlook's contacts, calendar, tasks, notes, journal, etc. It will only synchronize email. You would need to either add a Hotmail account to synchronize contacts & calendar, or you would need to install third party software to syncrhonize Outlook's contacts, calendar, tasks, notes, etc.
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1st off, allow me to say " Thank you Razzmatazz; your detailed explanation is absolutely helpful for those in Outlook with either hotmail/yahoo/gmail combinations . . . "

Next, for gurus, the Activesync/HTC sync application ( in HTC Sensation ) can sync calender items at the most for past 12 months to the phone, altho the outlook calender contains entries for a few years back.

Suggestions appreciated !

note - My earlier phone HTC HD2 could sync more than 12 months calender items using the Windows Activesync.
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Whosnex: I can't help you with the HTC Sensation, but just in case it helps... Using Hotmail on Outlook, I'm able to synchronize the stock calendar app on my LG Optimus S backwards in time, well over a year.
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First, thanks RazzMaTazz for your sync method, it works as described. My only hiccup was in failing to change the hotmail default calendar after I exported my normal Outlook calendar.

Second, my question is whether there is a workaround for meeting invites from a non-hotmail address. For example, I created an event on my Charge using the hotmail calendar and invited others, and the invite came from my hotmail account. I have disabled the google and droid calendars to avoid accidentally not selecting the hotmail calendar. I would like the meeting invitation to come from my preferred non-hotmail pop3 address. If I missed it somewhere in this thread, I apologize.
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I have used this system to get my phone, my husband's, and my sister's all set up to sync outlook contacts and calendar with phone via hotmail. Yay!

My sister needs to make a change to her email set up because her cable email address is pop rather than imap. She needs to choose either gmail or hotmail for her email.

Do you have any insight about which would be the better choice for synching with outlook (or other considerations I can't think of)? Thanks!
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Spongebobfan: I don't have any solution to that issue. It looks like you'll either have to send phone-based calendar invitations from your Hotmail address or from your Gmail account. I don't think that Android has a way to send calendar invitations from a POP account, does it? You could send an invitation from a Gmail account, (and invite yourself) but I don't think that helps. Sorry.
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Jflower: As I describe in post #137 above, your sister could add a POP account to her Android phone and Outlook, but they wouldn't stay perfectly synchronized in the same way that an IMAP or MAPI accound would. It's not bad though.

However, if she's going to make a clean break to a new Gmail account or a new Hotmail account, I'd recommend going for a Hotmail account because then she'd only have to deal with one account on Outlook and on her phone. That would be easier.

It may be worth noting that, just in case the "coolness" of the email domain matters to her, she can sign up for a "Live.com" account instead of "Hotmail.com" account. Live.com is newer too, so it's easier to obtain more desireable prefixes, so maybe she could get Her.Name@Live.com.
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Thanks, RazzMaTazz! That's helpful info. She definitely wants to avoid pop. I agree that dealing with a single account seems like a good reason to go with her hotmail account. But, are there any different benefits of using gmail instead?

I've never used gmail or hotmail with outlook or on my phone, so I don't know if there would be any pros or cons to them. Mostly, the imap synching between outlook and phone is what we'd be looking for.

Using hotmail email will be the default, but is there any reason to consider gmail instead (for use on phone and in outlook)? (For example, I wondered if outlook tasks can sync with gmail maybe, if someone wanted that added sync?) Any other differences between hotmail and gmail as email?

This hotmail outlook connector works so great for calendar and contacts, and I assume for email too (although I've never used it for email). Would gmail for email work as well in outlook?
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Spongebobfan: I don't have any solution to that issue. It looks like you'll either have to send phone-based calendar invitations from your Hotmail address or from your Gmail account. I don't think that Android has a way to send calendar invitations from a POP account, does it? You could send an invitation from a Gmail account, but (and invite yourself) but I don't think that helps. Sorry.
Thanks for your response, it's not unexpected. Your method is still a great workaround.
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But, are there any different benefits of using gmail instead?... I've never used gmail or hotmail with outlook or on my phone, so I don't know if there would be any pros or cons to them. Mostly, the imap synching between outlook and phone is what we'd be looking for.
For email on Outlook, I can't think of any advantage that Gmail or Hotmail has over the other. They both work great on Outlook for email.

For email on Android, Gmail has the advantage of supporting HTML mail, whereas Hotmail converts it to text on the Android device (so on Android/Hotmail, you lose the embedded graphics, and the embedded links get converted to long, but clickable, http://yada-yada style links). If that's important to your sister, then she may want to use Gmail as her primary mail.

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... is there any reason to consider gmail instead (for use on phone and in outlook)? (For example, I wondered if outlook tasks can sync with gmail maybe, if someone wanted that added sync?) Any other differences between hotmail and gmail as email?
Tasks can't sync with Gmail unless you add third party software. IMAP doesn't have any way to sync tasks, but I think programs like Gsyncit convert your Outlook tasks into coded emails in a "tasks" email folder, and then converts those coded task emails back into "tasks" on the phone, and vice-versa. Other types of third-party synchronization software (like CompanionLink, I think) communicate directly between your Outlook-PC and your Android phone without using Gmail. But in any event, whether or not you sync or use Gmail for email, you basically MUST have a Gmail account (not necessarily email/Inbox) on your Android phone (in order to use the Android Market, Google Maps, etc.) so I don't think your choice of third-party software for task synchronization should have any bearing on your choice for a primary email account. (I could be wrong.)

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Would gmail for email work as well in outlook?
Gmail works great on Outlook. That's what I use for my primary email and for one of my spammable email accounts. On Outlook, I also have a Hotmail account, two Live.com accounts, and two old POP accounts (which are old legacy accounts associated with my old DSL service provider).

You can have multiple email accounts (IMAP, MAPI, and POP) on both Outlook and Android. (They don't have to be the same on each.) And it's really easy (and free) to add and delete accounts on both Outlook and Android. So your sister can create different email accounts, try them out, make a decision, and then, if she wants, she can delete any accounts that she doesn't think are worthwhile, and then after making a decision, inform her friends of her new email address.

By the way, many POP email providers allow you to forward your email to another account (like your Gmail or Hotmail account) which can really help make sure that you don't lose any mail because somebody didn't start using your new email address. If your POP mail provider won't forward your mail, then you can have Hotmail pull mail from a POP account, or you can have Gmail pull mail from a POP account.
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