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Old September 26th, 2008, 10:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Stolen Phone Tracking System?

This shouldn't be that hard to make.( I don't think ) But how about an app sort of like a stolen phone tracking system? It would be hidden inside the phone so you couldn't see it but if anyone ever steals your phone, you can call the phone tracking systems company and find out where it is/who stole it? I think this would be useful because everyone wants this phone and after 90 days of this phone, you can unlock it so I'm pretty sure everyone wants to keep their phone safe

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I think you just gave me a project for the weekend..

So how do you think it should work?

Reporting the phones location back to the owner would not be a problem. GPS coordinates sent back to a predetermined phone number via SMS or email. If this is done at regular intervals, then you could "hunt down" the thief. (.. and break his ankles as punishment for stealing your new phone)

The trick here would be how the phone would know it had been "stolen". A couple of things come to mind...

1. A dead man's switch. In this case the owner would have to confirm that he still had the phone on a regular bases. I.E. open up the software once every 24 hours and tap a button or put in a code. If the button/code was not entered within that time frame, then the phone starts transmitting it's location. This could also work for a "lost" phone, or even an injured/lost owner. The down side is that it could be a pain to have to enter the code in every day.

2. Lock out testing reconnection. Here if the user failed to guess the unlock pattern (those nine dots we've seen demoed), after so many wrong answers the phone starts transmitting it's location.

3. Call Pattern reconnection. If he user of the phone starts to call "odd" numbers, like international ones, or 900 numbers (do they still have those?), or if the users makes say ten calls in a row to people not in their contact list, then the phone could start transmitting it's location.
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Oh, sweet; didn't think anyone would try it out but hey I guess its worth a try huh .

I think the third option is best because the first one requires the code everyday and it might get annoying after awhile. I like the second option \ besides that you never know if the person who stole it, also knows the pattern code. The third one is what I think is best because if the phone gives calls to 10 unrecognized people, then it's obvious that someone else has it.

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- when you first download this app, you put in a secret code/password which you can never change again. When the phone gets lost, you sign onto a website that, if you put in your secret password, will show you on Google Maps or wherever the phone is at that point. That way, once you put in the password, there will be a phone signal sent out to the internet, which will then show you where it is.
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For a program like that, wont you need a server, which will store gps locations of phones on a regular basis? Mabye you can work with a free cell phone location website like accutracking.com. I dont know if it is free now, but i remember it was years ago
 
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wouldnīt it be easier just to have the feature to always show your
position in your gmail account (my maps). whether itīs stolen or not.
so you can go to the web from anywhere, open your g account and
see where your phone is...

however...
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For a program like that, wont you need a server, which will store gps locations of phones on a regular basis?
Not necessarily. It could be done using a client/server model, but for the sake of efficiency just having the phone email you a location message seems like the simplest route.

The email it would send out could have a performated Google Maps link in it. That along with a time stamp could let you know where your phone was at that particular moment. There would be some delay, the phone would email out every 15 minutes or so, but that would be fast enough to track it down, but slow enough so as not to drain the battery (and thus lose track all to gather).

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wouldnīt it be easier just to have the feature to always show your
position in your gmail account (my maps). whether itīs stolen or not.
I suppose it would be easier from the handset program standpoint, however to add such a feature to Gmail would require Google, since we mere mortals cannot change the Gmail interface.

This touches on a good point about privacy. Having a phone always publishing your position might not go over to well with some users. Also, with a device such as this (or any GPS phone with a data connection), there is a risk of having your location scrumptiously disclosed. Take for example a situation where crazy stalker guy "A" is able to load a covert location transmitting program on woman "B"'s phone.

Another project that might deserve some attention is a firewall program on the phone, which required the user to "allow" programs to connect to the network, in much the same way a "Little Snitch" on the Mac, or the Firewall built into Windows Vista/XP SP2. This would go some way into preventing unauthorized programs from using the data connection, not just for stopping location tracking, but also to preserve your limited download resource.
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This touches on a good point about privacy. Having a phone always publishing your position might not go over to well with some users.
this is an issue which concernes me as well. and itīs sure worth discussing it. but maybe not here...
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this is an issue which concernes me as well. and itīs sure worth discussing it. but maybe not here...
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Ya think GPS notification could be disabled?
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i just found a chinese app.but it's not free
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i just found a chinese app.but it's not free
can you provide a link?
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it would be nice also,in case you lose your cell phone somewhere.i mean,it does happen.
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also,could it be a widget that runs idle in the background and maybe turns gps on when you recieve an email from a certain address or get a txt with a certain string? or is that way too far fetched?
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We are developing an application like this. We hope it will be available at the end of october.
It will have some nice features for those who whish to know where their cellphone was and also for those who lost or got stollen.
It will have a server to store all the gps coordinates.
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sweet! can't wait!
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We are developing an application like this. We hope it will be available at the end of october.
It will have some nice features for those who whish to know where their cellphone was and also for those who lost or got stollen.
It will have a server to store all the gps coordinates.
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Can you provide a mailing list or some reliable way to alert many people of this application?
I too would jump at this app, it seems like something worth developing. And depending on the features, worth some good money too!
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if you find your phone missing you could have the option to send it a SMS with a specific string of characters that will activate GPS sending to either phone or email.

or use the biowallet function of scanning iris dailey, weekely, or randomly to verify user.

just a couple of thoughts

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I think the third option is best because the first one requires the code everyday and it might get annoying after awhile. I like the second option \ besides that you never know if the person who stole it, also knows the pattern code. The third one is what I think is best because if the phone gives calls to 10 unrecognized people, then it's obvious that someone else has it..
The most obvious approach I see would be to set up a broadcast receiver to snag the "connected to wifi" notice. If the phone doesn't see my home AP in a day then it's likely stolen.

Obviously when i'm out of town that'd be a minor issue, but the worst that will happen is that it uses a little more battery sending out information about where it is.
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my only question is if someone steals the phone they can turn the phone off or throw the original owner sim card out how would the tracking work then?
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my only question is if someone steals the phone they can turn the phone off or throw the original owner sim card out how would the tracking work then?
Services on the android still run fine when the phone is locked, but i'm not sure what will happen if they replace the sim card.

Does anyone know if the phone retains their google account information when the sim is changed?
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I think this would have to be embedded into the Android OS for it to actually work.

Thus you should be able to get onto your GMail account online and be able to track it if needed to. Even possibly locking it down completely so the thief has no way of using it.
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my only question is if someone steals the phone they can turn the phone off or throw the original owner sim card out how would the tracking work then?
Is there a way to track it using the IMEI number??
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I want something like this! Read the features, it is awsome.
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I sent Dan Shipper an email at Convenience Software last night and this was his response to me this morning.

We are definitely looking into an Android version, which should be available within the next few months.- Show quoted text -

On Dec 11, 2008, DarkTLRrider wrote:
I have seen your product on Crackberry.com and thought it was very interesting. I recently bought a Tmobil G1 and was wondering if you were going to come up with a similar product for the Android OS?
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So if you are interested in this product give him a shout, it may speed thiings up if they see a lot of interest.
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I sent Dan Shipper an email at Convenience Software last night and this was his response to me this morning.

We are definitely looking into an Android version, which should be available within the next few months.- Show quoted text -

On Dec 11, 2008, DarkTLRrider wrote:
I have seen your product on Crackberry.com and thought it was very interesting. I recently bought a Tmobil G1 and was wondering if you were going to come up with a similar product for the Android OS?
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So if you are interested in this product give him a shout, it may speed thiings up if they see a lot of interest.
thats good news cant wait for it..

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They already have a program that can track your phone using SMS; its www.instamapper.com - they even have it on the Android Market. I had it earlier on my old G1 but formatted the phone to try to get the tetherbot to work and unfortunately lost the program (and of course had my phone stolen that day). But it works pretty good and will log where your going and you can trace it if you have lost it
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They already have a program that can track your phone using SMS; its www.instamapper.com - they even have it on the Android Market. I had it earlier on my old G1 but formatted the phone to try to get the tetherbot to work and unfortunately lost the program (and of course had my phone stolen that day). But it works pretty good and will log where your going and you can trace it if you have lost it
The first thing i would do if i stole a phone is delete the last users data to get rid of evidence and get it ready to sell, I want the ability to lock the phone first and formost. The ability to get the sim number is crucial to having the phone shut off by tmobil if it comes to that. To send a message to the locked screen is cool. But the best is the ability to remote wipe the phone, in this day and age we have so much personal info on our phones it only invites theives to abuse this info. If you wipe it that posibility is gone. it is also about the security of our loved ones.
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Hey, I did just get my phone stolen, and I think I installed the program "Here I Am" where I can send a text message and get the gps location. But I never tested it out, and I can't find instructions for the program. Can anyone help me out? Thx
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Anything on the market so far??
i desperately need one... i'm pretty prone to have my phone picked out of my pocket
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HI,


Cell's are very desirable pieces of technology, especially when they are popular models. They are costly, compact and easily lost or stolen. Be prepared and load your with the appropriate software beforehand, so you can track and retrieve the cell phone if it's stolen.

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I think an app that when it receives a certain text message it launches latitude and turns on the GPS on a regular basis would be good for this.
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  1. You send an SMS to the phone with a predefined string of characters that doesn't auto lock the phone. And dupes the thief into thinking that everything is working.
  2. It disables the wallet feature and international calling.
  3. It locks location services 'ON" and removes the setting completely from the menu. So it can't be turned off.
  4. Caller will probably begin calling friends or web browsing. (Who cares).
  5. Maybe some sort of high pitched chirp that you or the police can turned on (via SMS) when in close proximity to alert you and confuse the thief.
  6. It could lock the call log so any calls made from the phone after the first sms cannot be deleted. Leaving a string of calls linking it to the thief. Also locks sms sent.
  7. It leaves latitude "bread crumbs" to track movement.

Those just came to my mind. The Alert Chirp notification could be huge. Don't know how to overcome the battery issue. That's why I would make it so the phone looks and feels like it is working perfectly. The thief will just think you forgot it somewhere and haven't found it yet.
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I think an app that when it receives a certain text message it launches latitude and turns on the GPS on a regular basis would be good for this.
i just downloaded an app called kor.im (kor.im Phone Locator)...
this allows you to text a certain word (that you set up) to your phone and it will give you coordinates w/map on where your phone is. it's a little off (for example it gave an address that was a block away) but it works.
another function is that it will ring loud when your phone has been misplaced.

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Most phones if not recovered in the first 6-12 hours will never be recovered again. IF the crook is dumb enough to leave the phone on then it can be tracked by your local PD via e911. Depending on state law it's actually worth the time for the PD to track because the value of a phone exceeds 500$ making it felony theft. Actually had this happen at work in July when some one stole a Storm. Since he broke into a locker the company also pressed charges for vandalism.

If the perp turns the phone off then of course they cannot track it. If it's a cdma phone then the meid is locked forever and the phone is worthless.

The biggest advantage you can have is a text that wipes the phone and/or locks it with a password. That keeps you're info safe and potentially makes the phone worthless to the perp.

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Just installed wavesecure. so far very nice. I tried out the remote lock features and everything.
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checked out wavesecure, but don't see a droid version...
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kor im looks good, but it doesn't wipe the phone. If my phone is stolen, I don't expect to recover it, but I don't want someone getting into my email accounts. I want to wipe it, brick it, etc. Wavesecure will do this, but not on a droid.

I sent requests to kor to see if they would consider adding a wipe function, and a request to wavescure to see if they would support the droid.
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kor im looks good, but it doesn't wipe the phone. If my phone is stolen, I don't expect to recover it, but I don't want someone getting into my email accounts. I want to wipe it, brick it, etc. Wavesecure will do this, but not on a droid.

I sent requests to kor to see if they would consider adding a wipe function, and a request to wavescure to see if they would support the droid.
Yeah, i ended up uninstalling kor im – replacing it with wavesecure. Droid is not listed on the site...instead, search the app market for wavesecure and you should be able to download it from there. The version i have is beta but seems to work fine (on my droid).
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I've had wavesecure on my phone for the past couple days and like it a lot. Some things I would like to see from that app though are a way to remotely turn on GPS. Incase someone steals it and is dumb enough to leave the phone on, or if I were to lose the phone then I might be able to locate it. And secondly I don't want a notification that my phone is protected by wavescure upon start up. If my phone is stolen and rebooted the last thing I want a thief to know is what app to find and delete before I can lock/wipe my phone. Other than that it seems pretty good for a beta.
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I had an app on my BB called find me or found me and all you did was email yourself from your pc to an email account associated with your BB and in the subject line put Found You and send then your BB screen will flash red white and blue while beeping. then it would email the gps location to you.

Again, if it is off it wouldn't work but if it is left on it worked great.
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I've had wavesecure on my phone for the past couple days and like it a lot. Some things I would like to see from that app though are a way to remotely turn on GPS. Incase someone steals it and is dumb enough to leave the phone on, or if I were to lose the phone then I might be able to locate it. And secondly I don't want a notification that my phone is protected by wavescure upon start up. If my phone is stolen and rebooted the last thing I want a thief to know is what app to find and delete before I can lock/wipe my phone. Other than that it seems pretty good for a beta.
yeah i would love to get rid of that notifications. if you try to uninstall this from your phone will you be asked for the login key? that would make sense, but I haven't tried
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yeah i would love to get rid of that notifications. if you try to uninstall this from your phone will you be asked for the login key? that would make sense, but I haven't tried
It does make sense and I believe that's how it works on other OS but not on Android yet. Currently on Android you can uninstall it just like any other app as far as I can tell.
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This shouldn't be that hard to make.( I don't think ) But how about an app sort of like a stolen phone tracking system? It would be hidden inside the phone so you couldn't see it but if anyone ever steals your phone, you can call the phone tracking systems company and find out where it is/who stole it? I think this would be useful because everyone wants this phone and after 90 days of this phone, you can unlock it so I'm pretty sure everyone wants to keep their phone safe
I think you should try this apps, WAY GPS Phne Tracking from QITLabs, this apps is working silent, View mobile positions on an interactive map,its work for Androind and blackberry.
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I see there's a trial version of Wavesecure available. Anyone know how long it lasts for... does it enable everything to allow you to get a decent idea of the capabilities of this software.
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Install free Lookout, configure, and you're all set, gents!

(Oh, and password protect the app with an applocker against uninstalling!)
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Seekdroid is great for this. $0.99, tracking, alert, lock, wipe, etc. It's a lifetime membership, and doesn't drain battery power (it uses push notification).
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Install free Lookout, configure, and you're all set, gents!

(Oh, and password protect the app with an applocker against uninstalling!)
Some launcher apps (like Launcher Pro plus) allow you to hide apps in the app drawer. Lookout can be completely hidden, and unless the thief knows what they're doing they're not going to find it.
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Really helpful thread~~
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Some launcher apps (like Launcher Pro plus) allow you to hide apps in the app drawer. Lookout can be completely hidden, and unless the thief knows what they're doing they're not going to find it.
Seekdroid can do this as well, you just select "hide" from the web site interface and it'll hide itself from view using admin privileges.
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