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Old December 17th, 2011, 09:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I think I have tried every app out there... either found on my own, or recommended by others. What I am trying to do seems simple, but apparently not. I have a HeyWire number that I'm attempting to use as a replacement for the native messaging app in my phone. I also have a wifi-only tablet, which has no native app, since it has no carrier-assigned phone number. HeyWire works great on both devices. I want to permanently auto-forward my normal messaging number (from the phone) to the HeyWire number, w/o leaving an extra copy of the message in the native messaging app. The problem seems to be that many of the apps don't seem to be able to forward to non-carrier numbers (maybe they think it's a landline?). Here is what I've tried so far, along with the result:
SMS Forwarding - This was the first one I tried, and the most promising. It had an optional notification icon to serve as a reminder that forwarding was in place, plus it could be configured to automatically delete the copy in the native messaging app. Unfortunately, it had a problem with HeyWire numbers... it took 5 hours to forward!
SMS Forwarder - no forward
SMS Forward - no forward
Auto SMS - no forward
chompSMS - This was recommended, but unfortunately doesn't do what I need. Too bad, because it looks like a nice app.
biteSMS - Same as above, but this appears to be iOS only.
ultimateSMS - I don't know if this works or not. There is no free version, and based on my experience thus far, I wasn't going to spend the $4.99 asking fee just to find out.
TxT Operator - This was a total no-go. I could never test it, because I could not enter a number into the "Forward to" field (could get focus, but nothing I typed got entered). Without the ability to tell it where to forward, it was useless. This app also offers the ability to forward SMS to email, so maybe that works (though I did not test that feature before uninstalling).
dgAway - This one came fairly close to doing what I needed. The only thing it does not do is delete the copy in the native messaging app.
SMS Forwarder Lite - This was almost identical to dgAway, except the free version only offers the ability to forward a single number (not "all in address book" or all numbers, as most of the others do).
SMS Bounce - This is the one I'm using for now. Feature wise, it is similar to dgAway... but it goes about it in a different way. Instead of programming in a "Forward to" number, you send a text to your primary number (the device with this app installed) containing the activation password. It then forwards to that number until you text again with the 'deactivate' password. You can also stop the forwarding by accessing the app from the phone it's installed on and tapping the "Stop SMS Forwarding" button. This has the advantage of allowing you to do on the fly forwarding to any text-capable number (doesn't even have to be an Android device) for when you forget to take your phone with you, or any other reason. I have emailed the developer, asking if he could add the "delete in native app" feature, and that'I'd be willing to pay for it.

I hope the results of my testing will be useful to someone. In the meantime, does anyone else have any suggestions for apps to try that I might have missed?

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I am one of the developers for an app-in-progress called PhoneLeash (www.tinyurl.com/phoneleashfree). Its on the market, free, but in very early stages, meaning we love interesting challenges like this!

As it stands now, PhoneLeash only forwards SMS (and missed calls) to an email address (SMS destination coming). You can also reply to SMS from the email account (if your device has an email-to-SMS address). I know PhoneLeash can forward to Heywire numbers (in < 5 hours!) since I've replied to texts from Heywire users, and no complaints.

Do Heywire numbers have an associated email? E.g. xxxxxxxxxx@heywire.com

Why not just delete phone SMS store manually? Privacy? Laziness

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i just added DeskSMS. 4.99 for a one year license. the app auto fwds message to my desktop and my gmail account. it also lets me reply from desktop, routing the message back to my nexus one
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Thank you for the replies thus far - keep 'em coming.

PVS, no email associated with HeyWire numbers. It is SMS/MMS only. In fact, if you voice dial a HeyWire number, you'll receive an intercept recording telling you to text the number. Yes, of course I can delete the "extra" messages from the native app... and am. It's not laziness, but it's twice the housekeeping chore to manage messages in two apps instead of just one. I feel that machines should work for us, not the other way around!
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UPDATE: SMS Bounce stopped working after a couple of days, so is now unistalled. Back to dgAway. Still open to suggestions.
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Thank you for the replies thus far - keep 'em coming.

PVS, no email associated with HeyWire numbers. It is SMS/MMS only. In fact, if you voice dial a HeyWire number, you'll receive an intercept recording telling you to text the number. Yes, of course I can delete the "extra" messages from the native app... and am. It's not laziness, but it's twice the housekeeping chore to manage messages in two apps instead of just one. I feel that machines should work for us, not the other way around!
Hopefully the HeyWire forwarding in the latest release of PhoneLeash (www.tinyurl.com/phoneleashfree) will work OK. Deleting forwarded messages from the SMS Inbox is not there yet, give it a few more days

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This is an extremely busy time of year for me at work, but I'll try to get to this over the next couple of days, and give you some feedabck. Thank you for your interest and efforts!

You should also give yourself some exposure by posting up in the Alpha & Beta Testing sub-forum, and over on XDA forums.
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This is an extremely busy time of year for me at work, but I'll try to get to this over the next couple of days, and give you some feedabck. Thank you for your interest and efforts!

You should also give yourself some exposure by posting up in the Alpha & Beta Testing sub-forum, and over on XDA forums.
Thanks! Thats great input (just posted to the A&B forum)!
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Email sent re PhoneLeash, and left positive feedback on Market.
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Hey! It's me, Mr. Lucky, from androidforums. I put the app thru some testing and here are my thoughts. First, I understand that this app is intended to do much more than my autofwd to HeyWire requirement, so apologies in advance if items on my wish list conflict with your core intent for the app.

LIKE:
1. I really like the tray icon. It's a nice visual reminder and clearly suggestive of what it does.
2. I really like that this is the only app I've tested providing reply functionality for forwarded SMS.
3. It works fine with HeyWire, and is just as fast as dgAway and SMS Bounce.

DISLIKE:
1. The "-sent from phoneleash-" footer appended to reply SMS messages needs to be removed (or at least provide an option to remove). This gets included in the SMS message total, and can make a msg exceed the 160 character txt limit, thus causing the message to split. For people like me on a limited text plan, this could cause surprise billing overages (i.e., forwarding multiple messages for a single reply).
2. The notification bar icon doesn't reinstantiate after a reboot. This is a bug, as the forwarding works... just the icon is missing! I'm trying to use HeyWire and forwarding as a way of eliminating the need to use the native messaging app, and just use forwarding with people not in my address book. The notification icon is a handy reminder.
3. There is too much info in the forwarded SMS, causing short messages to split, thus exhausting my carrier text limit prematurely. For example, a 35 character test msg resulted in a multi-line msg (e.g., "SMS from ...", "Message recd:", etc.) split into two messages (a 160 char one + an additional one of 18 chars to include the remainder of the Message recd date).
4. The reply function, while nice, is clunky to use. Having to prepend the code and surround the whole message in quotes is difficult to do because of the way numbers, quotes, and letters are accessed on Android keyboards.

All in all, I consider it a solid attempt but still needs work. The risk of billing overruns makes it a no go for me in its current form. Here's another (unrelated) observation. I couldn't find your app in the Market by name (tried with and w/o space between words) yet when I used your tinyurl link from the forum post, it redirected to market np, and I downloaded from there. :O There was no issue finding it in Amazon appstore, but I was unsure if it was the latest version.
I have already received a reply, and they agree with my observations and to look into my feature request. They are even considering incorporating a widget to handle the on-screen notification (though I hope it will be a configurable option, not a replacement, for the notification bar icon). I would encourage anyone with an interest in this app (it does many other things) to try it out and provide feedback and/or constructive criticism.
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New version going up in next 24 hours. Addresses much of My Lucky's comments above. SMS replies are almost natural, intuitive now.

Also really excited about what I am currently calling "GASP", for "GPS At Shutdown Point": in the fraction of a second left before a (lost) phone's battery dies completely (or the phone's switched off), PhoneLeash will send out the phone's location. This has nothing to do with SMS forwarding of course, but you heard it here first.
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Excited to try this out (though it will probably be Thursday or Friday before I have time to). Thank you for the update.
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PhoneLeash version 1.5 is posted (www.tinyurl.com/phoneleashfree).

Added 2 new commands "tolastsender" and "allrepliesto [phonenumber]" - they send your reply to last sender, or if you are in an active SMS chat, use "allrepliesto [xxxxxxxxxx]" to send all future messages to [xxxxxxxxxx] until you turn it off by simply saying "allrepliesto". This should look great with HeyWire.

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- Notification on phone bootup and shutdown
- First ever GASP implementation ;-) : GASP ("GPS At Shutdown Point") sends out your phone's GPS location just as the phone begins to shutdown!

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Hello - I just posted some details and screencaps of how easy PhoneLeash v 1.5 makes replying to incoming SMS from your remote, forwarding destination (such as another phone/Google Voice/HeyWire). Screencaps show HeyWire since thats what started this thread. You can also see in these screencaps that all the message overhead is gone. Now messages to SMS destinations come in simply as "<from number and name> | < message content>"

One of the valid points in Mr Lucky's review of PhoneLeash is that it shouldn't cause additional texts to get sent out due to PhoneLeash wanting to advertise itself on replies. Now, PhoneLeash likes some self-promotion but not at the cost of making users spend more than they bargained for, so we tested and can confirm this is not happening. PhoneLeash will not increase the total number texts it takes for your reply - if there is room we'll add the tagline. So if you reply with a 160 char message (exactly 1 SMS), no tagline. If you reply with a 240 char message (2 SMS), each message will have the tagline, you're still sending out only 2 SMS'. The yellow bubbles in the screencap below are the replies being sent by PhoneLeash.



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UPDATE: Making good progress with PhoneLeash, but just to leave no stone unturned, I tried two additional apps today (which both turned out to be colossal FAILS).

1. Total SMS Control - Looked promising, but uninstalled because it uses AirPush. This app is tricky to uninstall because it appears in the Settings > Applications > Manage applications list as "Android System Storage" There is also a paid version of this app, but at $29.99, plus considering that the dev would stoop so low as to use AirPush on the "free" version... NO THANKS.

2. SMS Block and Forward - This is a paid app (nominal) but it seemed so simple to setup, I though I'd give it a try. The instructions for entering the forward number are straightforward... prefix with country code. I'm in the U.S., so I tried 1 and +1 followed by the 10 digit number. It returned an error on both. It also failed with just the 10 digit number. REFUND and UNINSTALL!
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This is turning into quite the authoritative thread on all things SMS forwarding :-) Another app I hear about in this connection is DeskSMS (Miketg11 mentions it as being $ 4.99 / year). Maybe have a go at that too - hopefully there is a free trial period?

PhoneLeash feature updates are still in the "In" tray. I took the time instead to update the website some, it was hopelessly out of date. Who knew making a little app (and free!) would mean so many late nights!
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In my never ending quest for the perfect SMS/MMS forward & delete app, I made a discovery today. There are multiple apps out there with the same name but by different authors. I'll set the record straight, so that I don't give a negative review to an app I never tried.

It seems there are four apps called "SMS Forwarder." The one I tried (that failed to forward to HeyWire) was by Kaan Yamanyar. Yasmani also offers a version, AWA "SMS Forwarder Free." They are highly rated and seem like they would be very useful for someone... just not me. There is also an app with the same name by Technicaljar.com, which I did not try (does not meet criteria). Finally, there is the version offered by Migital IA (also "SMS Forwarder Lite"), which I have already commented on in the first post.

There is also another version of "SMS Forwarding" (commented on in first post), by Kwanovations. However, it did not offer anything beyond what the free apps already do nicely. The one commented on in the first post is by Tony Shen.
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... the perfect SMS/MMS forward & delete app ...
Whats your take on MMS forwarding? It can be done though less elegantly due to some Android API limitations, just haven't heard anyone ask for it real loud.

Btw, another feature thats high up on the list for the next version of PhoneLeash is disabling forwarding selectively for some numbers. It appears there are some apps that use SMS quietly (so no notifications come up in stock app) but PhoneLeash sees them anyway and forwards them on.
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Whats your take on MMS forwarding?
For me, it falls into the "nice to have" category. Some of the apps I've tried handle it, but many don't. As long as the MMS message doesn't get ignored or rejected, I'm fine with it.


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Btw, another feature thats high up on the list for the next version of PhoneLeash is disabling forwarding selectively for some numbers. It appears there are some apps that use SMS quietly (so no notifications come up in stock app) but PhoneLeash sees them anyway and forwards them on.
I can understand why you'd want to include it, but I have no use for such a feature. Your isea of allowing exceptions to a general rule is better than the "whitelist only" approach I've seen taken in other apps. The feature I do want included is for the messages to either be deleted after forwarding or inhibited from ever appearing in the native messaging app. Several of the apps I've tried have this functionality, though I'm not sure how it's implemented.
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The feature I do want included is for the messages to either be deleted after forwarding or inhibited from ever appearing in the native messaging app. Several of the apps I've tried have this functionality, though I'm not sure how it's implemented.
Almost there with the option to delete-on-forward (we're inhibiting). There'll also be the option to store (or not) remote replies, for symmetry. So you could have a full SMS conversation ostensibly using the phone, with no log of it!

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Almost there with the option to delete-on-forward (we're inhibiting).
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can someone tell me if i have, or had, any of these types of secret apps on my phone?

I have reasons to believe a certain person put one on my phone. I recently hard reset my phone but I'm still wondering if it happened, or if it's somehow still happening. Before finally wiping my phone though, I went in and analyzed the apps and services/processes, ran all sorts of spyware, etc.

Is there any other method of bugging someone's phone like this? The person who I suspect did something to my phone borrowed it a couple of times for not very long (right in front of me too, I tried sort of keeping an eye on my phone to see if it was ok, I am always quite paranoid about something like this happening. I think my texts are being forwarded to another phone.
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Help, I might have spyware or an SMS tracker? or some other form of malware?

This is my original thread btw. Any input (in either thread) is appreciated, thanks.

Also, one last thought: Is there any other more practical ways of "hacking" into someone's phone? For example, going into their settings and setting up their email to "sync" with your phone, or using Google Voice, etc?

Again, any input/thoughts appreciated.
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In the course of my investigations, I discovered that there are apps that can surreptitiously monitor and forward your activities on the phone. Most of these apps exist on the premise of parents keeping tabs on their kids. However, if you wiped and hard reset your phone, I think you are fine now.

BTW, for anyone interested, I am beta-testing the next release of PhoneLeash and it looks very promising so far.
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The latest version of PhoneLeash with a truckload of features is now on the Android Market.

The full announcement is here, but thought I'll leave a word in the thread thats focused on SMS forwarding, and has helped guide the product so much.

You can now choose to delete texts forwarded out from your phone. Your replies can also either be stored in your phone text store, or just silently pass through. So you could have entire conversations using your phone without leaving any trace of it, I guess!

You can also block numbers that you don't want any SMS forwarded from. One of our users who was forwarding pages to his work email called it the "girlfriend rule"!

You can export a full day's SMS (inbound and outbound) using the smslog <date> command. It creates a really neat view in email -- almost a mirror. Looking for feedback on this feature.

There are other features related to phone locating (wifi scan, battery status, better GPS) etc look at the announcement for details on those.

Thanks Mr Lucky for beta testing and providing great product reviews.
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PVS, are you able to filter e-mails that you want to fwd? I only want to forward information that comes from one number.
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Will any of these forward a Virgin Mobile SMS from my phone to my GV number, so the SMS shows up in GV on my Galaxy Player? I seldom use my phone anymore, but want to get Top Up messages when they are sent. Showing up as an email is fine too.
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Hi - There is a block command, which blocks the numbers for who(m) you don't want calls and SMS' forwarded. So its a blacklist, I think you are asking for a whitelist. Your request makes sense straightaway, so expect it in the next release. In the interim can you perform the filtering in Gmail (if thats your destination).

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Will any of these forward a Virgin Mobile SMS from my phone to my GV number, so the SMS shows up in GV on my Galaxy Player? I seldom use my phone anymore, but want to get Top Up messages when they are sent. Showing up as an email is fine too.
If the Virgin Mobile phone is an Android phone, sure PhoneLeash should be able to do that to either email or SMS (GV). If you are seldom using it, I fear it may be a non-Android pre-paid

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Here's a proposal on how to implement blacklist/whitelist in PhoneLeash (prompted by metsox's question, as well as another user a nurse dispatcher).

Right now, PhoneLeash only has a blacklist. You can use the "block nnnn" command multiple times to block notifications and SMS from these numbers. Everything else gets through. [To unblock use the same command, its a toggle.]

What metsox wants is a whitelist. Block everything by default, only allow some numbers throug. So I am thinking of an "allow nnnn" command. Simple enough.

In order to retain simplicity and avoid a forest of setup screens, I believe blacklist (block) and whitelist (allow) are EXCLUSIVE. You are in one mode or other, not both at the same time. Does this make sense?

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Seeing the recent activity here reminded me that I should probalby circle back, since I started this thread. My testing concluded and the end result was PhoneLeash v1.7. Of course, there were other testers as well. Even though my primary interest was the SMS forwarding part, I made an effort to test all the features. I have been using PhoneLeash daily now for almost a month, and it's THERE as far as I'm concerned.

As far as the whitelist/blacklist, I concur with the simplicity approach - make them mutually exclusive. Besides being easier to understand and set up for new users, I believe that method will keep the memory footprint down in size.
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Hello - I just wanted to let everyone know that PhoneLeash development continues to be active (hence the silence from the dev!).

PhoneLeash will turn into a trialware app with its next release (30 days OK?), after which users would have to buy via an "in app puchase". Unlike what the media seems to claim, I think Android users are willing to pay for productivity apps, and many PhoneLeash users have emailed me actually suggesting it. That said, yes its possible that the app could suddenly become less popular just for not being free. We'll see!

As for an ad-supported free version, PhoneLeash is completely unsuited for this, since it is intended to live almost entirely behind the scenes, serving quietly.

Yes, there will be a couple of new features. Non-English language SMS seem to be having some problems, so thats high on the list of items to get fixed. Somehow I also need to find a way to make replying to SMS from email a complete no-brainer -- that might take a little longer however!

Thanks to everyone for helping cross the 1,000-mark, in ~ 2 months from the first release.

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PhoneLeash 1.8 went up yesterday on Android Mark ... Google Play!

The BIG new feature is that its now a 30-day trialware. Here's the pricing:

Missed call forwarding (plus various status messages) - $ 0.99
SMS forwarding & reply - $ 1.99
Phone locating - $ 0.99

All 3 of above - $ 2.99

Since a number of users have PhoneLeash on more than 1 device (Galaxy Tab users especially it seems) purchases are tied to your Android Market account. Use the same account and you won't have to buy again.

I do feel that PhoneLeash is mature enough, and has clocked enough ratings to become a paid app. I hope all of you feel the same as well.

There are a couple of "real" new features:
- You can block [allow] notifications from selected numbers.


The 'block' command is gone. The UI is much easier to use.

- A new 'calllog' command that sends an email with all the calls on a specific date, grouped by missed/outgoing/incoming

- The 'smslog' command has been simplified so it sends a list of all the SMS' for a certain date (grouped by thread) in a single email. (Previously it used to send one email for each SMS, looked great but too complex to use).

- Support for using your own mailserver or canned Hotmail/Gmail mailservers etc is gone. Almost no one used it! I kind of like seeing the main screen get simpler.

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I'm honored that you chose my thread to announce this, but you should really give yourself broader exposure with a new thread too.

Tell me more about the block UI. Say someone with all features enabled adds a number to the "block" list. Does it only block notifications, or does it also block SMS from that number

Good job on keeping this app fresh and interesting.
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Tell me more about the block UI. Say someone with all features enabled adds a number to the "block" list. Does it only block notifications, or does it also block SMS from that number

Good job on keeping this app fresh and interesting.
Mr Lucky this thread you started has become the watering hole for the topic of SMS forwarding. I've asked users where they heard about PhoneLeash and a disproportionate number point here! Who'd have thunk it!

Block will block the forwarding of SMS as well as missed call notifications from the selected numbers. The phone itself will still show the missed call or the SMS.

Speaking of keeping it fresh, the next interesting feature in the works is what I call the "where are you". You are on a call with someone and they ask "where are you", and you tap a couple of keys on your phone and your GPS location is texted to the other caller (and you say "just see the map I sent your phone").

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This forum has been very useful. I'm looking for a bit more help though, or even a slightly alternative app, or perhaps even an extension of PhoneLeash..

Essentially, I sometimes travel abroad and I use a different sim card when I do. I have a spare android phone at home, and I'm thinking that perhaps I could set up phoneleash to forward my missed calls etc to my other phone number while I'm away.
I'm looking for my cheapest option. So far, phoneleash can forward to an email address (I use hotmail, but could just as easily use gmail for example). I'm looking for a way for the forwarded email sms messages to end up in my android sms inbox, with the contacts name, time, message etc. Basically, I think it would need an app to somehow import the emails into the android inbox. Is this possible? That way, I could either reply from my overseas number, or use something like WebSMS/TextFish (or similar) to reply to the message using my phone, and its almost like everything is integrated and very cheap.

I would gladly pay for this integration.
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This forum has been very useful. I'm looking for a bit more help though, or even a slightly alternative app, or perhaps even an extension of PhoneLeash..

Essentially, I sometimes travel abroad and I use a different sim card when I do. I have a spare android phone at home, and I'm thinking that perhaps I could set up phoneleash to forward my missed calls etc to my other phone number while I'm away.
I'm looking for my cheapest option. So far, phoneleash can forward to an email address (I use hotmail, but could just as easily use gmail for example). I'm looking for a way for the forwarded email sms messages to end up in my android sms inbox, with the contacts name, time, message etc. Basically, I think it would need an app to somehow import the emails into the android inbox. Is this possible? That way, I could either reply from my overseas number, or use something like WebSMS/TextFish (or similar) to reply to the message using my phone, and its almost like everything is integrated and very cheap.

I would gladly pay for this integration.
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Hello - First I want to make sure you know that PhoneLeash can forward to an SMS destination as well (and not just an email address). So you can simply forward texts from your home Android to your travel Android. You'll get name, number, time etc in the message content, but it will show up as coming from your home number (so not a 100% mirror - MirrorLeash - there's an idea!). And yes, you can set the forwarding number remotely _after_ you have bought the travel SIM.

Of course this will cost you $$ or your texting quota, possibly on both phones. I am working on cloud-based forwarding (apart from the current email and SMS options) that will only use the data connection, but this may require an app on the receiving device (more complex, therefore less elegant).

Hope there's a useful answer somewhere in all this - else let me know!

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This forum has been very useful. I'm looking for a bit more help though, or even a slightly alternative app, or perhaps even an extension of PhoneLeash..

Essentially, I sometimes travel abroad and I use a different sim card when I do. I have a spare android phone at home, and I'm thinking that perhaps I could set up phoneleash to forward my missed calls etc to my other phone number while I'm away.
I'm looking for my cheapest option. So far, phoneleash can forward to an email address (I use hotmail, but could just as easily use gmail for example). I'm looking for a way for the forwarded email sms messages to end up in my android sms inbox, with the contacts name, time, message etc. Basically, I think it would need an app to somehow import the emails into the android inbox. Is this possible? That way, I could either reply from my overseas number, or use something like WebSMS/TextFish (or similar) to reply to the message using my phone, and its almost like everything is integrated and very cheap.
I'm confused by your post. It starts out sounding like you are asking about forwarding phone calls, and then you ask about SMS and email forwarding. I don't know if this answers your question, but here are my thoughts. For incoming voice calls to your U.S. number, get yourself a Google voice account and set up missed call and voice mail transcription/niotification to an email address that you can get to overseas. To get your U.S. number to forward to GV, use the appropriate forwarding code. These instructions are for T-Mobile, but they work for me on AT&T, and I suspect they will work for other carriers as well. You can even setup the forward/cancel strings as numbers in your address bookor as speed dials.

If you are asking strictly about SMS forwarding, then ignore everything I said, and go with PVS' advice.
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To answer your question.. yes.. I want SMS autoforwarding. I would also like 'missed call' autoforwarding. I do not want to forward SMS messages internationally, as that would ring up a huge cost for me (live in Australia), and I'm not setting up google voice.

In essence, I want to plug my current sim card into my spare android phone, have it left on and wifi connected.
All calls go to that phone, all messages go to that phone.
All txt messages then go autoforward to my phone overseas, and would appear in the starndard android sms apps as if they were sent directly to my phone. That way, I can use internet txt messaging apps that 'spoof' my number as if its coming from my normal phone number.
All missed calls would appear on my overseas phone as missed calls in the standand android phone log.

Integrating with dropbox would be great. And yes, this would require a client/server model (really just have the 1 app and have an option in the app to be the client or server).

Doable?
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OK, updated to v1.8, tested, and purchased all 3. It keeps getting better!

One suggestion though. I think you need to add some sort of in-app documentation, particularly for the benefit of people who were not around for earlier version of the app. Even an in-app link back to the Quick Start guide on your website would suffice (if it were up to date).
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Doable?
You must be a programmer you have it spot on. It would require a datapipe between client and server, and yes the same app could play these roles. Its very doable, but its probably at least 2 big releases away for me. I am working on C2DM first so replying via email is not dependent on email-to-SMS service (not prevalent outside US). Once that's in place, mirroring activity should be simpler.

Meanwhile, perhaps you could just forward to an email address, maybe an account accessible on your traveling phone? If you find other solutions, do let this thread know - I know your problem (accessing home phone while on intl travel) is quite common.

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OK, updated to v1.8, tested, and purchased all 3. It keeps getting better!

One suggestion though. I think you need to add some sort of in-app documentation, particularly for the benefit of people who were not around for earlier version of the app. Even an in-app link back to the Quick Start guide on your website would suffice (if it were up to date).
You beat me to giving you a "999 day" trial license! Thank you!

Documentation to a developer is like stretching to a runner, I think! But yes, docs are in the works. Quick start guides here and here.

Good point on in-app help as well. I have a couple of "?" buttons to aid setup, but it needs commands help.

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PS. It may make sense to merge this into the "SMS Auto-forwarding" thread ...
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Ha! A necessary evil, eh? (and this from a former marathon runner)


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You might not know it from my online remarks, but I'm a professional technical writer. I've already made my own PhoneLeash commands file in MS Word that I keep on Dropbox, so it wouldn't be a stretch to create something for public consumption. I think the best approach though is an in-app link to online instructions... with a CMS for easy administration of the online content. Drop me a PM or Gmail if you want to talk about this some more.
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Hey,
Thanks for the reply... Now, in typical end user fashion..... What? 2 major releases?! Well... I'll just have to wait around then
But seriosly, thanks for thinking about it. Given there are sms restoring apps and I know Viber can place missed viber calls in the call log, I eould imagine it can be done when you have finished everything else!
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Hello All

I think my head is about to explode from all this great info. I briefly downloaded Phone leash because I have the following scenario.

I have an Evo and an Iphone, and I want all the text from my Evo to be forwarded to my iphone. I also want to be able to reply back to the messages that were forwarded from the Evo. I did this using the "tolastsender".

My questions/issues are as follows:
1. When i tried to reply back using the phone number the message did not send. Any idea why?
2. How would I reply to an individual text if I were to receive forwarded text from 3 different senders and wanted to reply to the 2nd person first? I would think using the number method to reply would solve this problem but I could not get that to work.

HELP and thank you all very much for your feedback.
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You might not know it from my online remarks, but I'm a professional technical writer. I've already made my own PhoneLeash commands file in MS Word that I keep on Dropbox, so it wouldn't be a stretch to create something for public consumption. I think the best approach though is an in-app link to online instructions... with a CMS for easy administration of the online content. Drop me a PM or Gmail if you want to talk about this some more.
You're very kind. Yes, I'll PM you. (Whats a CMS?)
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My questions/issues are as follows:
1. When i tried to reply back using the phone number the message did not send. Any idea why?
2. How would I reply to an individual text if I were to receive forwarded text from 3 different senders and wanted to reply to the 2nd person first? I would think using the number method to reply would solve this problem but I could not get that to work.

HELP and thank you all very much for your feedback.
1. I had to remove that feature due to some issues (not technical). Hope to get it back in (meanwhile, must update that website, sorry!)

2. First text "allrepliesto 2223334444", next "this is my message to person 2", "allrepliesto 3334445555", "this is to person 3" etc - (what a pain, I know)

And welcome to the thread.

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Thanks for the reply... Now, in typical end user fashion..... What? 2 major releases?! Well... I'll just have to wait around then

Lol ... next think you know I'll be making product roadmap slides

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But seriosly, thanks for thinking about it. Given there are sms restoring apps and I know Viber can place missed viber calls in the call log, I eould imagine it can be done when you have finished everything else!
There are SO many people now with 2 phones, PhoneMirror (MirrorLeash?) is a great idea! I am sold on it already.
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