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Old March 5th, 2012, 09:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question WiFi/Data Location-Based Application?

Is there an application that will automatically turn on my WiFi when I am at home and turn off my data?

At the same time, will this application turn off my WiFi when I leave my house and automatically turn my data back on?

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You could try to search for tasker. I don't use it, but many folks here do, so I am sure you will find many discussions about it and if it will doo what you want. I'm pretty sure that it will do that and much, much more, I just haven't used it.

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Llama can do this, and its free. Its like Tasker, but with less features, but this is one thing it can do nicely.
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In Setting Profiles, Is There A Way To Automatically Turn Off Data (While Still Keeping WiFi On)?

I have “Setting Profiles” and I would like to know if there is a way to have my WiFi turn off in the morning, and have my Data Connections automatically turn on.

You see, while at home (at night), I have it turning on my WiFi (in case I forget) and I want it to also turn off my Data Connection.

Then, in the morning, when my WiFi goes off, how can I get my Data Connection to automatically turn back on?

I can get the WiFi to turn on and off when I want, but how do I create the same profiles for the Data Connection?

There is an “Airplane Mode,” but that turns off all Data Connections, right?
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There is an “Airplane Mode,” but that turns off all Data Connections, right?
Yes it does, but you can then manually turn WiFi back on, thus having only the WiFi antenna powered up.
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I use WiFi Auto On to do just what you are asking for. It turns WiFi on just when I'm at home or work and turns it off otherwise.

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mvs.android.apps.wifiautoon&hl=en
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So, if i want Wi-Fi on and data off I have to have the Wi-Fi on and airplane mode on and I can use the internet and get SMS and MMS messages? Will Wi-Fi work with the airplane mode on?

Then, I can do the opposite and have both modes off and I will be back online via my data connection?

This is confusing.
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I use WiFi Auto On to do just what you are asking for. It turns WiFi on just when I'm at home or work and turns it off otherwise.

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mvs.android.apps.wifiautoon&hl=en
Do you leave your GPS turned on all the time for it to work flawlessly?
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Its like Tasker, but with less features, but this is one thing it can do nicely.
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So, if i want Wi-Fi on and data off I have to have the Wi-Fi on and airplane mode on and I can use the internet and get SMS and MMS messages? Will Wi-Fi work with the airplane mode on?

Then, I can do the opposite and have both modes off and I will be back online via my data connection?

This is confusing.
I believe you need data on for SMS/MMS, they don't come through on WIFI
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What I mean is that I can receive those without the "H" or "3G" or "E" on my notification bar, meaning that the packet data is disabled.
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So, I can't get SMS, nor MMS when only connected to Wi-Fi?

What if I am connected to both, with Wi-Fi get me online and the data connection will only be used for the SMS and MMS messages?

So, it’ll say I am connected via a data connection, but I am not using it? Even though I am not using it, will it continue to search for the cell towers and kill my battery? Is the only way to avoid my battery draining to manually turn off my data connection?
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So, I can't get SMS, nor MMS when only connected to Wi-Fi?

What if I am connected to both, with Wi-Fi get me online and the data connection will only be used for the SMS and MMS messages?

So, it’ll say I am connected via a data connection, but I am not using it? Even though I am not using it, will it continue to search for the cell towers and kill my battery? Is the only way to avoid my battery draining to manually turn off my data connection?
Yes, that's the way I roll. In fact, I leave data/wifi on all the time with no negative impact on battery.
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I just tested this…

I turned my Wi-Fi on and my Data Connection was on, and the Airplane Mode was also on. I sent myself a text message and it didn’t come back to me.

Then, I turned on the Wi-Fi, had the Data Connection off, and the Airplane Mode was also turned off. The text message then sent through. So, it seems that Wi-Fi will allow the sending and receiving of text messages. Do I have that wrong?

Basically, I should never have my Data Connection off, but I can turn it off by turning the Airplane Mode on, right?

Basically, I know that at home I can have my Wi-Fi on and the Airplane Mode on (with my Data Connection still on) – that will ensure that I can connect to the web via Wi-Fi, while still connecting to SMS and MMS (which I rarely use).

Then, in the morning, when I leave for work, I guess I can have the Wi-Fi turn off, and the Airplane Mode turn off. With that then allow me Data Connection to work (exclusively) after leaving the house?

Here’s what I should have, right?

Work: Wi-Fi (Off) | Data Connection (On) | Airplane Mode (Off)
Home: Wi-Fi (On) | Data Connection (On) | Airplane Mode (On)
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Do you leave your GPS turned on all the time for it to work flawlessly?
No, WiFi Auto On uses coarse network location and it works just fine.
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Dude, understand this:

As long you're not in airplane mode, and inside your carrier's antenna range, you'll be conncted to their network. If the signal meter isn't showing 0, then you're online for them, and you will receive SMS/MMS no problem.

No, you won't receive anything from the carrier while in airplane mode. Wifi has nothing to do with their servers.

As long as there is no H or E in your status bar, you can't browse the internet, nor use any online service, but you can still receive stuff from your carrier's services.
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I got a little lost in the description part, but this I understand. Yes, I think that will work. You may want to leave Airplane mode out of the equation as I don't think it will really affect much. You may be better off just throwing the Power Control widget on one of your homescreens. It lets you quickly turn on and off WiFi, Bluetooth, Location (GPS), and sync as well as adjust brightness. It is a standard Android widget.

Just so I am clear, and I probably should have asked with my first post. Why are you trying to do this? Battery savings or data savings? I may be able to give other insights related to your needs but not your original question.
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Yes, battery saving.

I'm confused because, while in Wi-Fi mode, my data connection still says that it is on (in my settings).

So, it may not be using the data connection, but is my phone still looking for a data connection? Is that draining my battery?
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No, it's not. In the settings it's enabled, which is different from being ON.

And as for battery saving, being conncted to a a strong wifi sinal doesn't use battery at all. My device lost 2% battery in 9 hours, while I slept. So I wouldn't be paranoid about that.

Overnight with H on, it drained 0.5%/H, which is no big deal also. 3G only spanks the battery while you actually use it.
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So, at work, I should be connected to Wi-Fi?

The thing is – I have to manually sign-in to it each day, which is a super pain in the ass. I mean, I guess I can do it.

And, what is “H”…?

So, what you’re basically telling me is that I should be connected to Wi-Fi whenever possible?

Should I connect to 4G while at work? Will that use less of my battery? Or is that worse?
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I got a little lost in the description part, but this I understand. Yes, I think that will work. You may want to leave Airplane mode out of the equation as I don't think it will really affect much. You may be better off just throwing the Power Control widget on one of your homescreens. It lets you quickly turn on and off WiFi, Bluetooth, Location (GPS), and sync as well as adjust brightness. It is a standard Android widget.

Just so I am clear, and I probably should have asked with my first post. Why are you trying to do this? Battery savings or data savings? I may be able to give other insights related to your needs but not your original question.
I have such widgets for convenience, but I don't always remember. This was to make the settings more automatic.

I still have to play around with the automatic sound settings.
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So, at work, I should be connected to Wi-Fi?

The thing is – I have to manually sign-in to it each day, which is a super pain in the ass. I mean, I guess I can do it.

And, what is “H”…?

So, what you’re basically telling me is that I should be connected to Wi-Fi whenever possible?

Should I connect to 4G while at work? Will that use less of my battery? Or is that worse?
It's best to be connected to Wifi because it conserves power, and you don't waster your data plan, unless it's unlimited. Wifi uses half of the power of 4G.

No, once you put the password, it will remember it forever. You just need to tap the widget and it will be connected.

If you don't wanna turn the wifi on/off daily, you can get "Wifi auto on" from market, that will do it for you. But I don't think that pressing 1 button will be a hassle for you.

If you have wifi available, use it. Your battery will thank you.
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The dude at Best Buy told me that Wi-Fi drained your battery more. But, I didn’t believe him.

OK, so, when out and about (like in my daily commute) and on the weekend, should I have 4G on or will that just kill my battery?

With regard to the Wi-Fi password – where I work (a school), they wanna know who is using their Wi-Fi each day, so I have to sign-in each day. Although, it does remember my login information. So, my Wi-Fi will be switched to “On,” but I still have to manually remember to sign-in.
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The dude at Best Buy told me that Wi-Fi drained your battery more. But, I didn’t believe him.

OK, so, when out and about (like in my daily commute) and on the weekend, should I have 4G on or will that just kill my battery?

With regard to the Wi-Fi password – where I work (a school), they wanna know who is using their Wi-Fi each day, so I have to sign-in each day. Although, it does remember my login information. So, my Wi-Fi will be switched to “On,” but I still have to manually remember to sign-in.
Best Buy dude fed you bunk. My phone has been unplugged for 7hrs, no WiFi but it has been on the whole time. Thus far WiFi has used 2% of the battery.

I don't have 4G in my area so I leave it turned off, but my understanding is that it can drain your battery faster. Especially when switching between 3G/4G. I know a lot of folks turn off 4G unless they have a data intensive need. I stream TuneIn radio fine over 3G on my daily commute (~40 minutes a day).

As far as your school's connection, you will probably connect automatically, but not have data access because you haven't authenticated. You would know this because the WiFi / Signal Bar would be white instead of Blue or Green. This will save both data and battery to remember to sign in daily.
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The dude at Best Buy told me that Wi-Fi drained your battery more. But, I didn’t believe him.

OK, so, when out and about (like in my daily commute) and on the weekend, should I have 4G on or will that just kill my battery?

With regard to the Wi-Fi password – where I work (a school), they wanna know who is using their Wi-Fi each day, so I have to sign-in each day. Although, it does remember my login information. So, my Wi-Fi will be switched to “On,” but I still have to manually remember to sign-in.
Those dudes are Bestbuy know nothing.

I will try to find the link, but I read on a spreadsheet that showed the consumption of both Wifi and 3G network. Wifi radios use way less power.

Actually, none of them use much power at all if you aren't using it to send/receive data. The only power they will suck it to keep pinging the powers... Of course mobile networks will require more power, because the towers may be many kilometers away, while the router you're conncted may be just beside you.

You can leave your 4G on full-time, no problem. It will only really suck your power if you use it to browse, keep refreshing stuff like Twitter, email, etc. If there's no activity, I don't see any problem with it. Afterall, smartphones are mean't to be online 24/7, so what's the point of dumbing it down?

As for the wifi access, I'm afraid you'll have to manually log in to the router, although it will remember the IP/password.
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Here you are: (note that this is Wifi vs 3G. I'm sure 4G LTE is much more power-consuming due to the much higher frequency/data flow)



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Is this what you’re talking about?

Verizon Wi-Fi Auto-On?

Apparently, it doesn’t work on the Galaxy Nexus… :-(

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.vzw.wificonnect&feature=search_resu lt#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS52encud2lmaWNvbm5lY3Qi XQ..
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Is this what you’re talking about?

Verizon Wi-Fi Auto-On?

Apparently, it doesn’t work on the Galaxy Nexus… :-(

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.vzw.wificonnect&feature=search_resu lt#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS52encud2lmaWNvbm5lY3Qi XQ..
No, this one.

Basically, it will use your current location to turn it on/off. You have to manually enter the hotspots in the app, and it will tag a location to it.

But I personally prefer: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.droidplant.wifipowersaver&feature=s earch_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5kcm9pZHBsYW 50LndpZmlwb3dlcnNhdmVyIl0.

What it does? Turn off the wifi for you after X minutes without finding a known hotspot. Will save a lot of power... But you will still need to turn it on when you arrive.
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Since I don’t wanna manually do anything, I think the first one will be better, right?

Now, what I do is – I set up the Wi-Fi hotspots that I use, like “Work” and “Home” and when I am within range of them, my Wi-Fi will automatically connect?

That’s cool.

Now, when I get to work (or close to it), my Wi-Fi will turn back on, but I’m gonna have to manually login to their service.

It’s kind of like the Wi-Fi at Barnes & Noble. You can connect to the Wi-Fi, but you still need to “accept” the terms. So, it’s a bit of a manual thing.

But I will also tell my wife and mother about this application, as they too have just gotten a Samsung Galaxy Nexus.

(We just got them at Best Buy. We were out of our Verizon contracts and they price matched Amazon. We all got them for $100!)
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Since I don’t wanna manually do anything, I think the first one will be better, right?

Now, what I do is – I set up the Wi-Fi hotspots that I use, like “Work” and “Home” and when I am within range of them, my Wi-Fi will automatically connect?

That’s cool.

Now, when I get to work (or close to it), my Wi-Fi will turn back on, but I’m gonna have to manually login to their service.

It’s kind of like the Wi-Fi at Barnes & Noble. You can connect to the Wi-Fi, but you still need to “accept” the terms. So, it’s a bit of a manual thing.

But I will also tell my wife and mother about this application, as they too have just gotten a Samsung Galaxy Nexus.

(We just got them at Best Buy. We were out of our Verizon contracts and they price matched Amazon. We all got them for $100!)
You have to be connected to the said wifi and register it, then it will record the router's location.

The drawback is that it's advised to keep your GPS on for it to work better, thus draining more power. Also, it will be looking for your current location each X minutes (its in the settings), so, another energy eater.

But if the convenience suits you, why wouldn't you use it?
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By the way, I just had my Wi-Fi connected for 45 minutes and my phone ate about 9% of the battery (down to 73% from 82%). I then turned off the Wi-Fi for another 45 minutes and the battery dropped by about 17% (from 73% to 56%).

It used about twice as much of my battery to have the Wi-Fi off. My connection here (cell connection) is always “yellow.”

Each time, I barely had the screen on. Maybe a couple of minutes here or there.

What you guys say about the Wi-Fi being better makes sense to me.
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You have to be connected to the said wifi and register it, then it will record the router's location.

The drawback is that it's advised to keep your GPS on for it to work better, thus draining more power. Also, it will be looking for your current location each X minutes (its in the settings), so, another energy eater.

But if the convenience suits you, why wouldn't you use it?
So, maybe what I should do, at work, is use the scheduling application to turn on my Wi-Fi and turn off my GPS while I am at work…?
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Ah, crap. “Setting Profiles” doesn’t seem to have an option for turning GPS off. I guess I can manually do that? Maybe I’ll just leave that on. Does that really kill your battery all that much?
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The drawback is that it's advised to keep your GPS on for it to work better, thus draining more power.
Actually WiFi Auto On doesn't use GPS at all. It uses coarse network location based on the towers that you are connected to.
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Actually WiFi Auto On doesn't use GPS at all. It uses coarse network location based on the towers that you are connected to.
Weird, I thought it used your location only, which could be determined by either GPS or tower triangulation... And I know GPS overrides the other one.

@Dankees, yes, GPS on all the time will kill your battery. You better use the Wifi power saver and just turn it on when you get to work. It isn't that hard and will work flawlessly.
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