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I was appalled when I was searching applications for my daughter. I typed Disney in the search bar and scrolled down a bit only to see some naked chick. I think it is sick to think that someone is putting things such as that under the name of what any simple child would find and not to mention no parental controls over this. As an adult, I see the reason for why apps of this nature can be found on this market. As a parent, I am enraged that someone would try to subject kids to this. It is adult content and should be treated as such. Not posted there on a search that anyone's kid may perform.
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Whoa there!! If you want a censored market, go to Apple. I'm not saying what you saw is ok, but censorship is not the answer. Try contacting the person/company that made the app.
The app has the girls **** on the preview page. It should be at least blurred out there. And probably the only reason you want it to stay, is ur having a little to much fun with your phone.
Whoa there!! If you want a censored market, go to Apple. I'm not saying what you saw is ok, but censorship is not the answer. Try contacting the person/company that made the app.
The only reason that I see that this would need to be removed is because of the app creators name "Sex Disney" which means every application he makes will come up in a child's search for Disney. I have nothing else against any other pornographic materials. I just don't want it in front of my child's face when she tries to find TinkerBell pictures. They also have Sex Body_v7 which the picture you see looks like a cartoon. Once you click the app to see it shows the naked females once again.
There should just be an "Adult" category that's still open for all but keeps things confined. Maybe give you a popup warning before you go in, and/or have "see adult results.." as an entry on search results.
Perhaps let you hide the category altogether in your settings.
..if only I were in charge!
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this app creator, if they are not operating as a blind shell so they cannot be located, will likely be rightly sued by disney over the illegal use of the disney name. In any case, they should be removed while they use that name, as disney will likely name google in the suit as well.
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There should just be an "Adult" category that's still open for all but keeps things confined. Maybe give you a popup warning before you go in, and/or have "see adult results.." as an entry on search results.
Perhaps let you hide the category altogether in your settings.
..if only I were in charge!
I think that would be a great idea. You have such on the computer with browsing the internet. The same technique should be used here. This phone is becoming more popular and with such more kids will have them in their possession. Some type of block should be set if you wish not to see adult content on your market.
I can certainly see the problem in allowing that stuff to show up in public searches, but I don't think taking it out is the final solution. Apple has gone a little far in their desire to have a family-safe experience, including taking out a swimsuit retail company. I'm all about safety for children, but I'm no Mormon!
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I can certainly see the problem in allowing that stuff to show up in public searches, but I don't think taking it out is the final solution. Apple has gone a little far in their desire to have a family-safe experience, including taking out a swimsuit retail company. I'm all about safety for children, but I'm no Mormon!
Phases probably had the best idea with how to deal with the app, by putting some sort of warning on the "Adult Content" apps...
But to be honest....the app is a piece of crap anyway...it's just a bunch of naked women...it might as well be taken off....
There should just be an "Adult" category that's still open for all but keeps things confined. Maybe give you a popup warning before you go in, and/or have "see adult results.." as an entry on search results.
Perhaps let you hide the category altogether in your settings.
The app has the girls **** on the preview page. It should be at least blurred out there. And probably the only reason you want it to stay, is ur having a little to much fun with your phone.
What I do with my phone is irrelevant (google images!!). I agree some sort of parental control or separate section would be a good thing though.
Are you all buying android phones for your kids now? why not buy them a DSi instead.
I have friends that let their kids play on their phones, even I let my little girl play on my phone.
If the android platform is to flourish and put apple out(which I hope to see) it has to be more kid friendly.
I'm all for a better market in the sense that the categories could be better organized, the search algorithm should be improved, but frankly? Google's not responsible for parenting your children. You are. Quit trying to make other people cater to your oh-so-precious babies. They aren't obliged to, and cries of "think of the children!" are tiresome. Never mind the market, the phone's browser (or any browser in general) will expose them to plenty of porn, goatse, tubgirl, or what-have-you, especially once Android fully supports flash. If you're really crazy about control, root the device you're buying for your child and uninstall the market. Simple.
And... why do young children need smartphones again? Talk about spoiled.
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Well it's not necessarily a simple as all that. I have a 12 year old boy and my neighbor has a 12 year old daughter and both of them like to mess around with my phone. Get a kick out of changing backgrounds "for me", playing the games, looking at pictures of us all, whatever.
And much of the time I let them.
Yes, I monitor what they do, carefully - as I should. I'm the parent and that's what I'm supposed to do. And I should feel obligated to. I don't even like them being on Google on a laptop (or online, period) doing school stuff without me turning on the strict filter and sitting by them, either. I know how easy it is to stumble on stuff they don't need to see.
So, yes it would be nice to contain the porn in the market to a certain area (or have the option to filter it out) to make stuff like that easier on parents. I'm not saying it's up to the masses to police someone's child because said someone should be allowed to give them free reign of searching the open Android Market... I'm just sayin' in the real world its not as cut and dry as spoiling your kids by giving them smartphones or access to laptops.
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I have friends that let their kids play on their phones, even I let my little girl play on my phone.
If the android platform is to flourish and put apple out(which I hope to see) it has to be more kid friendly.
we should start a petition and send it to google its not right
Can't you flag software inappropriate in the market itself? I think this qualifies. I don't mind pron programs, but tossing in a keyword that is 100% aimed at kids needs to be fixed.
Well it's not necessarily a simple as all that. I have a 12 year old boy and my neighbor has a 12 year old daughter and both of them like to mess around with my phone. Get a kick out of changing backgrounds "for me", playing the games, looking at pictures of us all, whatever.
And much of the time I let them.
Password-protect your phone when you aren't around to monitor what they're doing on said phone? Do the same with all your computers and laptops. Advice doesn't apply if your kids are genius hackers, in which case the best course of action would be to get them programming courses to prepare them for entry into the IT industry. Early head-start and all that, you know.
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I don't even like them being on Google on a laptop (or online, period) doing school stuff without me turning on the strict filter and sitting by them, either. I know how easy it is to stumble on stuff they don't need to see.
The thing is, short of cutting them off from the internet entirely, you can't monitor what they see/don't see forever. Even then, they'll happen upon someone's stash of Playboy, hardcore porn, whatever.
Besides, do you have a problem with them seeing real-world violence on TV news?
Can't you flag software inappropriate in the market itself? I think this qualifies. I don't mind pron programs, but tossing in a keyword that is 100% aimed at kids needs to be fixed.
I have already flagged them as inappropriate so we will see what comes of it. The reason I have such a problem with it is what you said. It is targeting/aimed at kids. Which in my opinion is not right. A simple search for disney should not have pornography. Certain controls should be set where you can filter your searches or leave them the way they are.
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Password-protect your phone when you aren't around to monitor what they're doing on said phone? Do the same with all your computers and laptops.
I'm not worried about when I'm not around. They don't use it when I'm not around.
But just because I'm there giving a best effort to monitor doesn't mean a desire for the porn in the market to be confined to its own area is a ridiculous thing to have.
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The thing is, short of cutting them off from the internet entirely, you can't monitor what they see/don't see forever. Even then, they'll happen upon someone's stash of Playboy, hardcore porn, whatever.
I'm not worried about forever. I'm worried about today and their little lives up till today. When they happen across someones stash of hardcorn porn at the age of <12 I will be having a talk with the owner of the stash about their inability to keep it out of my kids view.
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Besides, do you have a problem with them seeing real-world violence on TV news?
Yea, to a degree I sure do. I think that is normal for most parents.
Look, I'm not saying to censor the porn. But I *am* saying is that it's perfectly normal for parents out there to desire a tiny bit of help with keeping it out of plain site. Like Google's filtering settings on their searches. Just like that. Minimal effort on their end helps me out a lot, it's appreciated and not ludicrous of me to be thankful for it. This is my argument - not whether or not one day my kid will be exposed to it. That's... moot. I'm not going to watch hardcore porn in front of kids and use "well one day they'll be exposed to it" as an excuse for it. The line has to be drawn somewhere and I don't think what I'm considering to be reasonable is so far off that your argument is really even valid.
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I think we just need a rating system implemented on the market, then have a search filter that can be customized to screen out things based upon said ratings. Or just do it like a movie theater, having everything rated from E-AO. It works for movies and video games, why not here?
The thing is, short of cutting them off from the internet entirely, you can't monitor what they see/don't see forever. Even then, they'll happen upon someone's stash of Playboy, hardcore porn, whatever.
Whoever allows a kid to "happen upon" a stash of Playboy magazines etc. fails at life...
Simple as that...
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Whoever allows a kid to "happen upon" a stash of Playboy magazines etc. fails at life...
Simple as that...
People throw away/hide their porn stash. Kids happen upon it: some people I know said they were exploring woods in the back of their home when they were children, dig up a box of porn somebody hid under a bush. Not the responsibility of people at large to make sure that their trash is inaccessible to children.
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Just for the record... Phases stole my idea. Thief. There should be a thief category on Android Market and Phases should be in it.
On a more serious note, I think it would also be great if the contract holder could initiate a "parents mode" and determine what does/doesn't show in Android Market for that particular phone. AT&T recently restricted certain things on their Backflip phones... wasn't seen as a good move... but using that same power for good intentions like parental control? I'm down with that.
1. If you think the market should have a ratings system for content, tell google.
2. If you think the app is infringing/misleading - report it to google.
3. If you think the name is confusing, and done so intentionally using Disney's name, report it to Disney. Companies like that are super quick to "protect" their trademarks/tradenames...often going above and beyond what is actually the law's intent (see Monster cable). In a case where it seems like a fraudulent use of their name to get attention I bet they act quickly to have it taken down.
1. If you think the market should have a ratings system for content, tell google.
2. If you think the app is infringing/misleading - report it to google.
3. If you think the name is confusing, and done so intentionally using Disney's name, report it to Disney. Companies like that are super quick to "protect" their trademarks/tradenames...often going above and beyond what is actually the law's intent (see Monster cable). In a case where it seems like a fraudulent use of their name to get attention I bet they act quickly to have it taken down.
I agree, a category would allow the market to stay as open as it is already, but a setting in the phone to disable the adult category and third-party apps (maybe via a pin or something similar) would give parents the necessary tools to protect their children. I am all for openness and freedom, but there is a difference between "open" and hiding apps with naked women under the name Disney.
I think the best way to implement an Adult section would be to just add a menu item that allows you to view Adult apps. Of course, this also needs to change the header or give some visual clue that you are in "Adult mode". Perhaps this could also (in the future) have a lock so that it isn't easily checked by kids just playing around.
O'er the land of the free... but not really because parents want to censor everything instead of keeping the responsibility where it belongs which is on themselves... and the home of the brave
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A "simple child" shouldn't have a $300 Android phone. Seriously, what do you expect? What is stopping your "simple child" from opening up the web browser and typing anything else in? Would you complain that they found porn on the internet if you just let them freely use it? If you want censorship, get an iPhone. Leave the open source stuff to adults.
having porn on the market is fine as long as it is placed in a proper categories. The problem here is someone created an app with Disney name directed to kid wich had porn stuff in it.
I don't wanna see some lame rating system like E for everyone T for teen etc etc.
I just kind of want to let this one pass. It's not that big of a deal, it's a dev fault. There are probably at least 50 porn apps on the market and up until now, no one has said a word. No restrictions with options are better, otherwise you turn into THE app store as deemed by the public.
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What a great post. These are the same type of lazy and incompetent parents that blame their school for their child's obesity.
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It should be the parent's responsibility to monitor what their child downloads. Google, however, should give parents the proper tools to do their jobs. At least then the "restrictions" no longer fall on Google, but the parent; as it should be.
I can confirm that the app is no longer in the Market. I agree that it is the parent's responsibility to manage these kinds of things, but the developer should at least change his name to something other than Sex Disney. I mean, c'mon!
Sexy Body app by Sex Disney
why not buy them a DSi instead.
