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Old March 22nd, 2010, 12:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've seen plenty of discussion here about different browser apps, but I have yet to see one listing the pros and cons of the different most popular browsers available for android. The main browsers I've been able to identify are the following:

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Dolphin
Opera Mini
xScope

If there are any others worth mentioning, please add them to the list. I would love to hear your input regarding the pros and cons of each one.

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Opera Mini assumes your phone is some godawful non-touchscreen dumbphone that can't browse the web like a PC. It's fast, sure, but it renders a lot of sites badly--and worst of all, no kinetic scrolling. Have to rub your screen forever before you hit the bottom of any page. I like the UI, but its lack of optimization for a real smartphone is bad. Very bad.

Stock is so-so. I like Desire stock, though: easier text selection, quick access to copy-and-paste, look up terms on wikipedia, and google translate of any word.

The rest I've never tried.
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 01:33 PM   #3 (permalink)
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If you have a dumb phone, Opera Mini is the way to go (for all the reasons already noted)

The stock browser is OK. I wouldn't hate having to use it, I am just glad we have choices.

Steel is a decent browser. It is has a compact memory footprint. It does most things fairly well. It's better than the stock browser.

Dolphin used to be awesome. I don't care for the newest UI. Dolphin functions very well. Has pinch zoom.

xScope is awesome. It does pinch zoom, pin zoom. It's easy to bookmark items. The developer is one of the most active developers that I have seen on Android. Definitely an excellent product.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't Desire and Steel essentially shells built over the standard browser?
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Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't Desire and Steel essentially shells built over the standard browser?
Currently EVERY browser for Android is a shell for built-in one. Except for Opera Mini, ofcourse.

A few words on an Opera Mini. Currently it is in beta state and lacks proper Android integration, so developers have some time to polish it. Another thing is that it is made to save traffic and be lightning fast. When you are reading Phandroid/Slashdot on the go these are the only things that matter.
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From what I understand, all of the browsers utilize "webkit" for the browser engine. I guess all the other browsers would be a cousin to the stock app, related but not the same.
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xScope is awesome. It does pinch zoom, pin zoom. It's easy to bookmark items. The developer is one of the most active developers that I have seen on Android. Definitely an excellent product.
Thanks pwabbit, after your review I gave xScope a try :-)

Will run it in the future to see if I like it.
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I've only used the stock browser and Dolphin. I am very happy with Dolphin!! I like the look and layout of it. The gesture and pinch and zoom comes in handy. I really like that you can save bookmarks and favorite links because I don't like to clutter up my home screen with links to things that I can just as easily save to the browser. I recommend it!
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Personally I like Infinity. I used Dolphin for awhile, but the UI always seemed a bit clunky to me. Infinity seems to be a bit faster too, but not nearly as fast as Opera.
Unfortunately, others here in this thread have already mentioned the issues with the current version of Opera and I agree. I used it for a few days and then uninstalled it.

The only drawback to all 3rd party browsers though is the lack of Flash support that only the stock browser has.
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The only drawback to all 3rd party browsers though is the lack of Flash support that only the stock browser has.
I thought that flash was not currently available for Android. I remember reading somewhere that it was in development - I think it was in a response to one of steve jobs' rants. I'm I getting my stories confused?

Also, if what you guys say that all the browsers are built on the stock browser's developer kit, doesn't it stand to reason that those will also support Flash in the coming future?
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OK, so I made the following pro's and cons list based on the comments above.please feel free to flesh it out and add to it:

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Standard:
pros: comes pre-installed, supported by google, has built in flash support;
cons: lacks features like multi touch, tabs, etc.

Dolphin:
pros
: full featured and has multi touch and is very stable
cons: newest version is clunky and new layout is not very user friendly. Many prefer the older versions

Opera Mini:
pros
: lightning fast
cons: still in beta testing. It is currently unstable, incomplete and lacks proper Android integration. Lacks features and does not render all sites well. Still in development so wait
for final rollout

xScope:
pros
: pinch zoom, pin zoom, easy to bookmark items, active developers
cons: ?

Steel:
pros
: compact memory footprint. It does most things fairly well. It's better than the stock browser.
cons: ?

Desire:
pros
: easier text selection, quick access to copy-and-paste, look up terms on wikipedia, and google translate of any word
cons:

Infinity:
pros: ?
cons: ?
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OK, so I made the following pro's and cons list based on the comments above.please feel free to flesh it out and add to it:

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Standard:
pros: comes pre-installed, supported by google, has built in flash support;
cons: lacks features like multi touch, tabs, etc.
Erm... Stock browser has multi-touch. On the N1, anyway.

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Desire:
pros
: easier text selection, quick access to copy-and-paste, look up terms on wikipedia, and google translate of any word
cons:
It's a bit slow sometimes thanks to all the shiny skinning, and only allows you to open very few windows (compared to stock--stock allows, what, seven windows? Eight? Desire seems to let you open only four-five).
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I've tried the default browser, Dolphin, Steel, and Opera Mini. I've stuck with the default browser.

Dolphin has the worst interface of any Android app I've used. I can't figure out how to do anything with it.

Steel is like the standard browser except with a little bit worse interface. Not as bad as Dolphin's, but still pretty mediocre. No reason to use it over the default browser.

Opera Mini is very fast but it's also really weird. The way it handles text boxes is strange and I sometimes have problems even logging in to various websites. It can take several attempts for login forms to work with it.

So yeah, I just use the default browser.
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Give me horribly rendered pages any day of the week as long as it's fast. It's all about speed and that's what Opera does best.
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I don't see why I should have to put up with badly rendered pages on a 1 GHz phone with 512 MB of RAM--my phone can handle Javascript, can handle desktop view, can even manage Flash lite. It's not like the stock browser is slow. Oh, and having to flick flick flick repeatedly just to scroll on a touchscreen isn't acceptable by any stretch of the imagination.
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Another pro for Opera is the way it handles bookmarks. Not only does it have the speeddial home screen (9 links) but it also supports nested folders for bookmarks.

The icing on the cake is that it also syncs with the PC browser (via Opera Link), so you can basically have one set of bookmarks on the PC and also use them on Android.

Other minuses for Opera include the lack of a Share command, so sending a link involves copying/pasting the URL into an email program. Also, as mentioned, it's very hard to click on controls, but using the trackpad works fine; just not used to it.

I love the speed/rendering quality tradeoff they made, but YMMV.

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I have used the stock browser, Dolphin, and xScope extensively. For me, I find navigation is the easiest with xScope and the developer's responsiveness to user input is second to none. Try making a suggestion to Google. With xScope I have seen recommendations posted in this forum implemented within hours. The program has matured over the past 3-4 months and continues to improve. Initially it was spartan and a little clunky. It is now polished, customizable, and most importantly, easy to use. Did I mention it was fast?

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I played around with the Opera beta for a bit. As mentioned above, the UI is its strong suit. I liked how I could see what my open windows were, as it showed thumbnails of them upon request. That being said, I couldn't agree more about how poorly it renders sites; it's what I would've expected for my old Treo 700p (shudder). It's completely unacceptable on current smartphones.

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I have used stock browser, Dolphin, and xScope and used xScope the most but missed the pinch zoom of the stock browser (pinch not available in xScope for Android 1.5) and the way the text reformats when you zoom. I recently came across Opera Mini and quite like it, page loads are very fast. Unfortunately due to the lack of being able to make it default I use it in combination with the stock browser.

I started a poll here, as it'll be interesting to see which is most popular.
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I thought that flash was not currently available for Android. I remember reading somewhere that it was in development - I think it was in a response to one of steve jobs' rants. I'm I getting my stories confused?
Well, not full Flash. The stock browser supports "Flash Lite", which from what I understand is a scaled back version of Flash v8. It gets the job done for minor Flash objected embedded in web pages though.

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Also, if what you guys say that all the browsers are built on the stock browser's developer kit, doesn't it stand to reason that those will also support Flash in the coming future?
No, most of the third party browsers use the WebKit rendering engine which is nice and light and perfect for low memory environments like smartphones and tablets. Steel is the only "browser" that I know for Android that is directly paired with the stock browser as it is really just a fancy front-end, adding some extra features and extending the use of the stock browser. Dolphin, Infinity, XScope, etc are all standalone applications using the WebKit engine.

Opera went in a totally different direction and Mini uses their Presto rendering engine. When Fennic (Mozilla) is finally released, it will use the Gecko rendering engine.

The only reason I can think of is that there must be a licensing issue keeping all these 3rd party browsers from including support for Flash.
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