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Old November 25th, 2012, 06:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm in the market for a password app. Once I realized some apps are asking me for user names and passwords, I knew I would have to get one. But what I need, is...

  • Must pass both user name and password to another app (ie. Skype login)
  • Easy to search for the login info you need
  • Ideally, it would work across devices; ie. same names&passwords that are stored on PC via browser, or can be easily transferred from phone to PC


    Does anything fit the description?

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Old November 25th, 2012, 06:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I use Keeper myself...the app is free, but the paid version will allow you cloud storage, auto sync between devices etc.
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The free version of LastPass will generate and maintain unique passwords for every website you visit, and has plug-ins for every major browser that let you access the passwords with a single click.

For $12/year, you can get the Android client that will give you access to all your passwords on an Android device.

Well worth the money in my opinion.
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Old November 27th, 2012, 09:35 AM   #5 (permalink)
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KeepassDroid creates a database than can be copied to a pc or linux machine and those have apps to access it, or use a dropbox share to make it a bit more automated.
It's password/usename links/icons are shown as notification messages, you can click to copy them and then paste, but they time out after a few minutes for security purposes.
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KeepassDroid creates a database than can be copied to a pc or linux machine and those have apps to access it, or use a dropbox share to make it a bit more automated.
It's password/usename links/icons are shown as notification messages, you can click to copy them and then paste, but they time out after a few minutes for security purposes.
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+1 for KeePassDroid, and I also use FolderSync to keep the database file in sync across my phone and my PC. I keep the database in a folder in Dropbox and use FolderSync to make sure my phone always has the latest version.
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+1 for KeePassDroid, and I also use FolderSync to keep the database file in sync across my phone and my PC. I keep the database in a folder in Dropbox and use FolderSync to make sure my phone always has the latest version.
That's exactly what I am looking for! I'm glad I found this thread.
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The free version of LastPass will generate and maintain unique passwords for every website you visit, and has plug-ins for every major browser that let you access the passwords with a single click.
Do any of these passwrod managers integrate directly with the browsers on the phone or is it all a copy / paste type of setup?

I've been looking for some that support Chrome on Android, but I keep hitting dead ends with everything I look at.

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Do any of these passwrod managers integrate directly with the browsers on the phone or is it all a copy / paste type of setup?

I've been looking for some that support Chrome on Android, but I keep hitting dead ends with everything I look at.

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I dont know about the others, but Keeper just came out with an online account, that you can access via a browser, either on your computer or the phone.
But once you have the app on the phone, the paid version will sync automatically with your other devices (computers) and the cloud.
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Do any of these passwrod managers integrate directly with the browsers on the phone or is it all a copy / paste type of setup?

I've been looking for some that support Chrome on Android, but I keep hitting dead ends with everything I look at.

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Lastpass Premium ($12/yr) can integrate with Dolphin, Firefox Mobile, and possibly Chrome Mobile. They also have their own browser you can use.
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Do any of these passwrod managers integrate directly with the browsers on the phone or is it all a copy / paste type of setup?

I've been looking for some that support Chrome on Android, but I keep hitting dead ends with everything I look at.

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To expand on what others have said...

You have two options.

1) Use the built-in browser. It should automatically log you in as necessary. I've never used it because I like Chrome so much.

2) If you use your own browser, you will go into LastPass, select the website you want to log into, and select "Add Copy Notifications". This will add 2 new notifications to your phone. Exit LastPass, and go to the website you need to log into. Click on your notification bar, and select "Copy Username". THen click in the textbox for your username, and paste it. Repeat this process for the password.

This app has allowed me to have a different, unique, very secure password for dozens of different websites. I think its great.
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I need a password manager that is not just for browsers, but also for apps on the phone, like Skype, etc. I've tried a couple, and I don't find them useful! Take "Pocket", for example....

I need to log into Skype each time (because it never wants to stay logged in, between reboots). Now I have to go out of Skype, go into Pocket, LOG into Pocket with a password, go into this page and that page and the next to retrieve the Skype password, copy it, go out of Pocket, into Skype, paste the pw and hope for the best.

This is way too many steps! On my PC browser, LastPass already fills in the password field. I need that! Or at least something I can access from the notification tray, that I don't have to open up separate programs and go through a lot of rigamarole, each time I need to retrieve a password.

Any that are as easy to use as LastPass on the PC?
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The problem is that Lastpass (and other password fillers) works in the browser because it can read the webpage to find the login fields. It isn't easy to do this with applications because password fillers can't hook into those applications to identify the fields.

For what it is worth Lastpass is working at trying to do this but last I heard it doesn't work very well.

Anyway your better off coming up with password generation system that will allow you to easily recreate/remember the password to enter them.
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The problem is that Lastpass (and other password fillers) works in the browser because it can read the webpage to find the login fields. It isn't easy to do this with applications because password fillers can't hook into those applications to identify the fields.

For what it is worth Lastpass is working at trying to do this but last I heard it doesn't work very well.

Anyway your better off coming up with password generation system that will allow you to easily recreate/remember the password to enter them.

You mean think of a simple password and use it for everything? How about just "password"? That could just be my password for everything... Oh no, it can't. Skype, and many other programs, won't even allow me to choose what I want as a password. If they feel it's insecure.
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No I mean come up with system for generating unique passwords. At its simplest come with a 12 character key that meets the characteristics for a strong password - for instance lets say: b8iL&vn3^h2a and memorise that (although a random set of characters would be best you can use whatever mnenomic trick you want long as it meets the complexity requirement I would say no shorter than 8 characters). Then make a rule to modify it with something unique about individual site/application, perhaps the first 2 and last characters of the name of the site/application at the beginning and of the key. That way you end up with unique strong passwords like so:

Skype - sKb8iL&vn3^h2ape
Android Forums aNb8iL&vn3^h2ams
Pocket - pOb8iL&vn3^h2aet

Anyway you get the idea. Each password is unique and it is strong. You don't have to memorize each one because only you know the key and the rules to modify it so you can recreate them whenever you want.

The trick is coming up with you own personal rules for creating a strong password. The more complex the better but it also slows you down so I stick with one or two rules.
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I like b folders.
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I just started using LastPass and love it. I upgraded to Premium for $12/year to use amongst all my devices. The instant I add a password, it's available on my other devices.
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No I mean come up with system for generating unique passwords. At its simplest come with a 12 character key that meets the characteristics for a strong password - for instance lets say: b8iL&vn3^h2a and memorise that (although a random set of characters would be best you can use whatever mnenomic trick you want long as it meets the complexity requirement I would say no shorter than 8 characters). Then make a rule to modify it with something unique about individual site/application, perhaps the first 2 and last characters of the name of the site/application at the beginning and of the key. That way you end up with unique strong passwords like so:

Skype - sKb8iL&vn3^h2ape
Android Forums aNb8iL&vn3^h2ams
Pocket - pOb8iL&vn3^h2aet

Anyway you get the idea. Each password is unique and it is strong. You don't have to memorize each one because only you know the key and the rules to modify it so you can recreate them whenever you want.

The trick is coming up with you own personal rules for creating a strong password. The more complex the better but it also slows you down so I stick with one or two rules.

If I could do all that, I wouldn't need a password manager.
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HDKorp: LastPass is only for web use.

Skyroket: B Folders, appears to be like every other password manager. See my post yesterday about why they are not practical in real-world use.

Anyway, I think I just found a solution: Clipper. (Just d/led it, haven't tried it yet).

Its not a password app, but a clipboard manager. It can store a history of text info, that you can call up any time from the notification bar, instead of going through all the rigamarole of opening up another app, logging into that, then going out of it back into the app you need a password for, etc.

(Yeah, people are gonna say "that's not secure". I care less about that than I care about being able to easily access my passwords. So if people want to log into my Skype under my name and do pranks, have at it! )

Thanks all for the suggestions.
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Despite what sounds like sarcasm, that is precisely the point. Because password managers cannot enter your in every place you want having a system allows you to generate and remember strong unique passwords for you to enter manually when you need to.

Personally though I keep Lastpass around to make the task easier where it can.
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I love LastPass on the PC browsers. I'd be lost without it, it's the best. But for me, on a phone... it simply does not work the same way, because it can't control other apps, only browser passwords. And I rarely ever need to go on a site on the phone's browser that would require a password.

BTW, that is a pretty good idea you had, about adding a prefix and suffix to a password you can remember. One might choose an old phone number they can recall, for the middle part. It'd still be a pretty strong password.


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Despite what sounds like sarcasm, that is precisely the point. Because password managers cannot enter your in every place you want having a system allows you to generate and remember strong unique passwords for you to enter manually when you need to.

Personally though I keep Lastpass around to make the task easier where it can.
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mSecure works well. if you want to pass login info, you can do it. its not swapping them automatically to the screen, but you can move them to the notification bar and add to the login screen on this way... so its still needs couple clicks =)

and i think mSecure is very good application. easy to use and easy to find your passwords..
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