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Old January 15th, 2013, 10:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
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There's a new sheriff in keyboard town and his name is Kii! I stumbled upon this program (thanks, Tom!) in a discussion about which was better - Swype or SwiftKey Flow. I had been a dedicated Swype user as it came pre-installed on my RAZR MAXX HD but then signed up for the SwiftKey Flow beta trial and had been using that for almost a month. I was getting ready to go back to Swype to get a better feel for which of two I like better when I stumbled on the thread here and a poster said he had recently found Kii, a new program in beta, and it was great. He was not kidding!

Kii has everything that both Swype and SwiftKey Flow have plus more. Word prediction, gestures, and it works in all types of fields (SKF doesn't work in certain types of fields). But the best thing is that you can customize it heavily. You can move the keyboard from one side to the other (called padding) which is great for people that swipe type with just their thumb. You can fully customize the keyboard's size, colors, spacing, and a whole lot more. You can use almost all aftermarket keyboard themes and skins. It seems to be a winner and it's still just in beta. As a beta program all the 'premium' features are turned on right now for free.

I thought this program deserved it's own thread to let others know about it and as a place to discuss the program and the things you find you can or can't do as well as any problems/solutions you find. I've only been using this program for a day and I can see myself going back to Swype of SKF any time soon. Check it out.

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I will check it out. So far, I like Perfect Keyboard best out of all I have tried.
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I didn't notice my favorite customization in your list, the ability to load custom fonts. I love that I don't have to look at bland, generic letters anymore.

Been using it for about a month and have zero complaints.

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I really like the app. I sent in a suggestion though, which prevents me from switching to it. I will update this thread on what I hear back. It says a lot about a product by how responsive the developer is to feedback and new features.
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I didn't notice my favorite customization in your list, the ability to load custom fonts. I love that I don't have to look at bland, generic letters anymore.

Been using it for about a month and have zero complaints.

Nice! Yes, I didn't mention everything you can do to customize your keyboard mostly because I have not experimented with everything yet. I use a different color font but have not experiment with different font-types yet.

One thing I have not been able to do is change the color of the alternative character color. I got it to go once after I tried a theme and then got rid of it I suddenly had the alternative characters color but then I changed to a different stock keyboard and since then I have not been able to get it back. The alternative characters are very small so without adding some color to them they are very hard to see.

Anyone else have this problem or find a solution?
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No, but I've noticed this too. In addition to being small, as you can see in the example above they seem really high on the keys and have a tendency to bleed into the background. Not a huge deal but especially if you keep your brightness down, it can be a pain.
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I emailed the Dev about the issue. I'll post of he responds.
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You can pretty much create any look (using or altering themes from Play), to make as readable as you need. A couple I've tried, using the top "Storm" version, very happy with it. The text shortcuts (in dictionary) work well (like set-up "sig" for a complete signature).

Changing alt text works well for me.

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Thanks for the tip! The storm theme matches the character color to the key color.

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I tried a couple more skins and it's when using them that I'm able to get the alternate text color to actually work! I downloaded three free skins from HD and didn't really like any of them. I tried Storm, Rapid, and Mav-Rix and didn't like any enough to use. I liked the look of Chiclet a lot as I prefer lighter colored boards. It's a pay one but only $.99 so I sprung for it and it's pretty good. I'm playing with colors right now.

I've also got my key sizing and placement down to where it's small enough for thumb-only swiping. I'll post a couple screen captures shortly with the colors I'm testing but here's the specs on the spacing and positioning I'm using:

(All entries of for Portrait mode only)

Key size: 125%
Bottom spacing: 50%
Key spacing: 50%
Key row spacing: 50%
Keyboard left side padding:8%
Keyboard right side padding: 16%

I'm sure these numbers will change but this seems to put the board in a perfect place for my left thumb. I also opted for the dedicated row of numbers and arrows.
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Here's one capture. It was hard to get it quick enough before the trace faded!

It's funny but now that I can see all the little alternate characters on the blown up PC screen I'm finding all kinds of things I didn't even know were available!
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Nice look. How'd you get the delete key off the querty row?

Also, anyone get the emoji (happy faces) in the 123 key menu working? THey just add a space when I try.
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I'm not sure what you mean the delete key off the QWERTY row? You mean the backspace key? It's in the same position as the other boards posted above. I didn't do anything to move it.

As for the emoji from the 123 - same with me. I'm thinking maybe you need to have an aftermarket emoji app installed, which I do not. But you can get a bunch of basic emoji faces from long pressing the return key on the opposite side. I've never been much of an emoji user but maybe I'll download a free app to see if that works with the 123 key.

Also, the long press of the period key brings up a whole bunch of punctuation marks in a little menu. I don't find this useful because the ones I need most are too far off to the right to be helpful for me so I just use the individual long press versions on the letters above. But the real problem is that I can't long press the period for the comma!

Hey! I just went back over to my phone and had an update message from Kii saying that I needed to download an emoji plugin to use that button. I did so (it led me straight to Hancent Emoji Plugin) and now, as expected, it works great.

Does anyone use the Dynamic floating preview? I had turned it off as I found it distracting but I'm going to turn it back on and see how I like it.
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Odd. If you look at my keyboards above the delete key is on the 2nd row. I get nothing long pressing the return key. I get a question mark long pressing the period. Must be different phones do different things. I have the handcent plug in, no update, doesn't work.
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The keyboards you posted in this thread are landscape. Maybe that's the difference? But I see what you mean. Not sure about the other issues.

I've also disabled the dynamic floating preview as it did not help at all.
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Gesture input doesn't work on my phone for some reason. Sticking to Swype.
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I have been using this for a few days and it is to me perfect. Even got a couple of my friends to use it and they agree.
I love the gesture keyboard on the Nexus 4. With the ICS theme you can't even tell the difference. I find this keyboard more responsive then the stock one.

One thing, does any one know how to get rid of the notification when using the keyboard? That's the only thing that somewhat bugs me.

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Downloaded Kii keyboard. Seems pretty cool. Lots of customizable options too. However my biggest reason was due to use of emoji. I see they're pre-installed with ios6 emoji, however when I try and input these in a message there is just a blank space, no matter how many emoji's I attempt to add. Any help here folks?
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If you enable gesture control you cannot use gesture typing. It also says when enabling gesture typing that some devices are not supported. Too bad as being able to have some gestures for doing certain things would be cool but I can see where it would be a problem programming I guess.
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Downloaded Kii keyboard. Seems pretty cool. Lots of customizable options too. However my biggest reason was due to use of emoji. I see they're pre-installed with ios6 emoji, however when I try and input these in a message there is just a blank space, no matter how many emoji's I attempt to add. Any help here folks?
Mine was not pre-installed with the program. When I tried to use it I too just got the blank space. But then I got a notification from Kii in the notification bar that I needed to download an emoji app for it to work. I followed their link and it took me to Handcent emoji app, installed, and now it works fine.
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I have been using this for a few days and it is to me perfect. Even got a couple of my friends to use it and they agree.
I love the gesture keyboard on the Nexus 4. With the ICS theme you can't even tell the difference. I find this keyboard more responsive then the stock one.

One thing, does any one know how to get rid of the notification when using the keyboard? That's the only thing that somewhat bugs me.

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I never even noticed this since it's only there on my phone when I'm actually typing then it goes away. I did not see a way to shut it off in the program settings.
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My examples are Portrait, not Landscape (unless there's a setting for this?). Tried several and they all have the wider qwerty row. Switching to "US-PC" it actually adds 2 more symbols to that row.

Not sure what you're talking about with notifications. I've never seen one.

I also can not get emotions to work (not that I care ). Using my PC right now.
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Wow, you must have a very wide phone even in portrait mode! A little keyboard icon pops up in the notification bar on my phone when the keyboard is active. I guess there is just differences between phone types right now. Emoticons work well on mine! 🐞🐜🐥🐋🐃🐪🐆🐖🌿🌰

Okay now I'm noticing that only certain ones are working!
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Must be the difference in phone and "tablet", although my Nexus 7 isn't really in tablet mode.
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I asked in another forum about the keyboard icon in the notification bar and was told it's an ICS "feature."
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Maybe, but I don't have ICS, I have JB!
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FWIW, I liked Kiis but also found that it used considerable app resources, not sure how it compares to the other 2 mentioned. Also it did not give the option to install to the SD card. I did find that SmartKeyboard used the least resources of a few that I have tried, even less than my stock keyboard & it could also install at least some of itself to the SD card. Some of these things may be helpful to those of us with "older" phones. I did go back to stock keyboard, though I still liked SmartKey a lot.
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Is Swiftkey Flow available now?
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Kii Keyboard is quite good; better than SlideIt in recognition.

However, I'm waiting for Swiftkey Flow, which I think will be the best gesture keyboard if it's successfully integrates Swiftkey's predictive algorithm.
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However, I'm waiting for Swiftkey Flow, which I think will be the best gesture keyboard if it's successfully integrates Swiftkey's predictive algorithm.
I've got SwiftKey Flow. Even if its prediction is marginally better, there's no way I'm giving up the ability to swipe one-handed that you can only get by using Kii's padding feature.
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If you enable gesture control you cannot use gesture typing. It also says when enabling gesture typing that some devices are not supported. Too bad as being able to have some gestures for doing certain things would be cool but I can see where it would be a problem programming I guess.
Yes, gesture control is disabled. I have no use for those. Gesture typing just simply does not work on my phone. Oh well, its probably too old.
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I just noticed shortcuts don't work more, they did a few days ago. A recent update must have killed that feature, hope it gets fixed, use that feature a lot!

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I have both swiftkey flow and Kii. So far, Kii is winning for me... but I am a terrible typist, even on a full sized keyboard.

I was never able to do the double letter thing on SKF (with swype you just made a loop on the letter) and although I liked Swype on my SG1, it just does not work well with the SGIII for some reason (takes up too much screen and I cannot see the input field).

So far, after 5 days of Kii, this might be a keeper.
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So far after two days of using Kii I'm liking it. I like how customizable it is.

I think Swiftkey's predictive typing is better though. I'm been using Swiftykey so long that I can type complete sentences just by selecting the words above the keyboard.
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I've got SwiftKey Flow. Even if its prediction is marginally better, there's no way I'm giving up the ability to swipe one-handed that you can only get by using Kii's padding feature.
+1 on this comment. I used SwiftKey Flow from day one until just a couple days ago and it was pretty good, but not as good as Kii. Kii's predictive abilities are far better than SKF and the padding feature is great.

Since both are still in beta I will give both a try with finalized along with giving Swype another shot but in my opinion, Kii is winning this race so far.

Tom - what shortcuts were you using? I was aware of the ability for any type of shortcut. I did receive the update but I haven't noticed anything yet. I tried emoji's again but still nothing. I fired off another email to the dev about that feature as well as a direct link to this thread in case he was not aware of it.
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The possibilities are limitless with this KB! Can't wait for the "Pro" version to send the developer a couple bucks!



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The "Text Shortcuts" in dictionary section worked for me a couple of updates ago, but not now. I could enter "wtc" and have my email address come up, or "sig" and have my signature come up. Really want this back!

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How do you get to the dictionary to create the shortcuts. I've been looking for this feature.
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Settings/languages&dictionaries/Text shortcuts just hit the "+" button and add the 2 fields. Not going to work until he fixes it....

edit: Working again. I had to reboot my Nexus. I seldom power down, but maybe one of the updates needed a reboot.

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Cool found it thanks. Seems to be working on mine.
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Does it support multi touch swipe? I'm using keymonk which does. I can swipe with both thumbs in landscape mode.
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Hey guys - in case you haven't seen it today, there is yet another update release for Kii. This time it's a really good one! Among other things he fixed the alternative character key coloring on the stock keyboards AND you can now use gesture typing for the text shortcuts! There are other fixes too but these were two issues plaguing me. Still no fix for the emoji icons but at least they are listening and working the program, which just keeps getting better and better!
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I love this app so far.
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Just a heads up, there is a new update this morning. 1.1.7 Updated Character encoding for iOS6 emoji- pretty much an awesome update. Almost all the emojis are now able to be posted without issue. Awesome app, developers who listen to users. I love this keyboard!
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Nice to see this working, finally see what all those symbols look like. Seldom use them, but nice to have available. Someone posted a problem with space after periods, but seems to be working as I like. Best keyboard out there, since you can give it any look you want.
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Gesture (Swype) wasn't working on my GS2 until this update. Now it works flawlessly. This is now the best keyboard out there, I think.
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I love this keyboard, the fact that you can download themes is awesome ! everything about it so far is just great
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Switched back to swype. Kii had potential but I find swype still better at this pint
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