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Old February 12th, 2013, 09:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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No matter how many times I go into running apps and Force Stop Google Maps it starts back up again. I never have GPS turned on and don't use Google Maps but it is always running and killing my battery. I do not want to root my LG Motion just to delete or freeze this app. Any suggestions?

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Old February 12th, 2013, 10:57 AM   #2 (permalink)
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No matter how many times I go into running apps and Force Stop Google Maps it starts back up again.
Doesnít do that on mine. Perhaps itís because I have its updates uninstalled, just to save memory space.
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It's not to do with updates. I always have the latest version, and it doesn't do that for me either.

You don't use Latitude do you? I expect that would make Maps run (it's all part of the one package).
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Old February 12th, 2013, 11:14 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Never have, probably never will, donít even know what it does. I turn on GPS and use Maps about once every 1.87 years. If I ever rooted, it would be primarily to uninstall it.
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I meant dinomosin, not you - I'd have bet heavily that you didn't

I don't think you can remove it without removing Maps - I'd have done so long ago if I could. Like you I've never used it, so was wondering whether that might be what was causing this problem.
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You can use Gemini App Manager and disable autorun on maps.
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I don't have Latitude on my phone. I don't think I ever have. I uninstalled all that ICS would let me when I got my phone 1 month ago but don't think Latitude was one of them.

Can Gemini do that without being rooted. If so I will get it even if I have to buy it.
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No matter how many times I go into running apps and Force Stop Google Maps it starts back up again. I never have GPS turned on and don't use Google Maps but it is always running and killing my battery. I do not want to root my LG Motion just to delete or freeze this app. Any suggestions?
Google Maps was always running on my phone even though I've never used it. I disabled it, can you not do that on your phone?
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All I can do is "Force Stop," "Uninstall Updates" or a box below that says "Clear Data"
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You can use Gemini App Manager and disable autorun on maps.
That's what I did. Free program. Stops maps from starting automatically upon boot, but doens't stop it from being available when you need it. I hope OP pays attention to your response.
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All I can do is "Force Stop," "Uninstall Updates" or a box below that says "Clear Data"
I use maps, so I can't check this, but if you can disable it in ICS, then you will have to uninstall updates before it will allow you to disable. The button that says Uninstall updates changes to Disable if there are no updates installed.

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I just installed Gemini and it requires rooting to control the Autoruns. The original poster had requested something that does not require rooting. Is there any other way to disable maps and only use it when you need it?
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All I can do is "Force Stop," "Uninstall Updates" or a box below that says "Clear Data"
I had to do all 3 of these things before it would let me disable it. I never use it so I didn't mind losing the updates.
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You have to uninstall all updates before you can disable the app. Provided, of course if you are on Ice Cream Sandwich or above. On ICS, disable is like freeze, but you don't have to be rooted.
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I am the OP and I appreciate all of the responses. I downloaded Gemini App Manager and sadly can't remove Google Maps from Autorun without rooting (which I don't want to have to do.) I did however use it to kill the process of Google Maps 24 hours ago and it hasn't started back up but I would expect the next time I reset my phone I will have to do this again.

I really don't want to get rid of Google Maps for the very rare chance I need it for directions. If I am able to disable Google Maps by uninstalling updates will it be simple to re-enable it again. I don't see where any of the bloatware I disabled when I got my phone is able to be "undisabled?"
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Disabled apps appear WAAAAAY down at the very bottom of the list under settings>apps>all

You have the option there to enable them again.

Google maps always runs for me too. I don't know that its "maps" so much as 'location services" that are actually running. You can't stop it as it always comes back. Its bothered me since forever. I don't think there's anything you can do about it as long as you want to use Google's location services. I think its all part of the service. My best guess is they constantly ping locations and cross-reference tower and wifi locations to improve and maintain their database...and opting in to the service allows it.
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Go to Settings>Location Services, depending on phone/carrier, there should be options to turn on/off GPS options. This might help in turning off Google Maps.
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If you disable "use wireless networks" in location settings maps won't be running in the background . But I would guess that makes finding location a lot slower while using maps. On the other hand, I always have wireless location enabled, and maps is never mentioned in battery usage stats if I haven't been using it....
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Check this thread about processes that run in the background.

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* Android is hard coded to automatically kill a task when more memory is needed.
* Android is hard coded to automatically kill a task when itís done doing what it needs to do.
* Android is hard coded to automatically kill a task when you havenít returned to it in a long time.
* Most services (while possibly running in the background) use very little memory when not actively doing something.
* A content provider is only doing something when there is a notification for it to give. Otherwise it uses very little memory.
* Killing a process when it isnít ready only causes it to have to reload itself and start from scratch when itís needed again.
* Because a task is likely running in the background for a reason, killing it will only cause it to re-spawn as soon as the activity that was using it looks for it again. And it will just have to start over again.
* Killing certain processes can have undesirable side effects. Not receiving text messages, alarms not going off, and force closes just to name a few.
* The only true way to prevent something from running at all on your phone would be to uninstall the .apk.
* Most applications will exit themselves if you get out of it by hitting ďbackĒ until it closes rather than hitting the ďhomeĒ button. But even with hitting home, Android will eventually kill it once itís been in the background for a while.

If you see an app running that you didn't launch, it's most likely because an activity within that app was called by another app to perform a task. If you kill the app you didn't launch, the system has to relaunch that app in order to complete its task. This is why some people kill a task and then see it immediately running again. Constantly killing that app creates a situation where the user is battling the system resulting in wasted system resources.
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Well, google maps background services "issues" aren't really about killing tasks and memory usage. Its more about location data being constantly collected/reported in the background and the sometimes significant impact on battery life and data transfers. Personally, I feel that its active waaaaaay more than necessary. If you use an app like better battery stats you'll see that sometimes upwards of 7 different maps and location services are causing partial wake locks. In all, it probably adds up to about 5% of battery usage, which seems small, but for someone who didn't touch maps or use any apps that have location data access (aside from a weather widget that updates twice an hour) it is more than necessary.
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Thanks for the informative post about android processes Petrah.

I have noticed on both of the android phones I have had that when Google Maps is running my battery drains much faster. It sure seems like more than 5% but I can't say for sure.

I deciced yesterday to clear data and uninstall updates of Google Maps and disable it. I may need it once or twice a month and with the help from this post I disabled it and now know how to re-enable it when I need it. With 4G speeds I don't think it will take long to re-download any updates I might need when doing so.

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Sorry, I didn't realize that was limited to rooted phones. I guess that's one of the big reasons to root... to get rid of (or manage) bloatware.

If you are without Google Maps... you might look at some other map / navigation programs: NavFree (free in USA) or OsmAnd (free) or Locus Pro (costs a few bucks). I like NavFree quite a bit. You have to download the maps for the states you'll be in ahead of time. The zoom is seamless and the right level so you can easily see the roads coming up and can see the major road names at any level of zoom (like Google Maps and unlike OsmAnd and Locus Pro which loses the road names when you zoom out). The two small disadvantages of Navfree:
1 - when in navigating mode NavFree always chooses a relative coordinate system where the top of the screen is the direction you are traveling (rather than North). It's a little strange if you're used to an absolute coordinate system where north = up, but you get used to it. It's actually practical because you have less thinking to do as you approach a turn. It's a little harder to develop a mental map when you're in a new city, but if you change to scroll mode (rather than Navigate mode), you can set it to normal north up map display. In fact very useful in this scroll mode to get a very good mental picture of your route or a general area before starting driving, since the zoom feature is so good.
2 - It doesn't use the built in compass at all. Instead it relies on movement of gps coordinates to figure out which direction you're headed. Works well once you get started, just a little rocky when you first get started from rest (like figuring out which way to turn out of a large store parking lot).

In spite of these two disadvantages (which may seem pretty big), I highly prefer NavFree to OsmAnd and Locus due to simplicity, ability to zoom in/out seamlessly, uncluttered display where you can easily see the important roads coming up at a glance as you're driving.
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