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View Poll Results: Best app for lost phone?
Where's My Droid 18 21.95%
Mobile Defense 34 41.46%
WaveSecure 4 4.88%
Prey 1 1.22%
Lookout 15 18.29%
Other (please specify) 10 12.20%
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Old June 2nd, 2010, 09:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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For those who have apps that allow you to find your phone if you lose it, what do you have, what can it do well and what can't it do? Is there any consensus as to the best one? I'd like something that I can go to a website and find my phone on a map (so at least I know if I left it at work, at home or somewhere else). Do any of these work if the phone is stolen and someone turns off the gps? Can any of these remotely lock down the phone if it's stolen?

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I have wheres my droid and lookout, wheres my droid will let you text the phone from someone elses phone with 2 types of terms, one makes the phone ring even if its on vibrate and another will text the phone you text from with the gps location. Lookout is a virus scanner and you can go on the website and do the same, cause it to emit a siren sound and I think you can do a gps one, as far as remote lock I have no idea.
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Anonimac suggested Mobile Defense to me. It seems to work well. It's free.
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wavesecure is awesome for me.
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Prey is what I use. It's free and you can track your computer or your android if they are stolen. The good thing is that you have options.
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I've tried Where's My Droid, Prey and Lookout. BY FAR, Lookout has the best UI. No texting required, the web interface is great. Other benefits I like about it:

1.) If you're not a fan of anti-virus, that portion can be shut off leaving just backups and phone locator.
2.) GPS doesn't have to be on. I don't run my GPS unless I'm using maps to save battery. Even without GPS enabled, it tracks my phone right to my exact address when testing.
3.) I can shut off email and task bar notifications (task bar on phone app, email on web interface). Last thing I want is for somebody that has my phone to know I've just located my phone.
4.) It's free
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Does lookout use the battery all the time or only if I activate it using the webpage? I didn't find any info on the apps webpage about this. I looked at mobile defense and they state theirs does not use the battery unless the phone is activated from their site.
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I use mobile defense. I think it uses gps wether it is on or off.
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I suggest turning this thread in to a Poll, unless there is one already. I'm in the market for this type of software as well.

Also, it's pretty same to assume that these security programs should be added to and Task Manager's "Ignore" list. Correct? Is this done by default?
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I use SmrtGuard and have also signed up for latitude both seem to work very well
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I use Lookout and it seems to be great. Doesn't chew up a lot of battery while it's on which is nice. I've tested out the GPS location and it works really well. Always seems to be pretty damn close to where I'm at. The dumbass in my also tested the siren. It isn't very pleasant and the only way to get it to stop is to pull out the battery.
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I need one badly after last night. ugggggggghhhhhh.

haha. Will be trying Mobile D Fence
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Not trying to hijack the thread but are there any of these sort of apps that don't need to text your phone? I don't have a texting plan and don't want to pay for incoming texts whenever the website activates the tracking of the phone.
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Wavesecure. Wiping and tracking options.
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Not trying to hijack the thread but are there any of these sort of apps that don't need to text your phone? I don't have a texting plan and don't want to pay for incoming texts whenever the website activates the tracking of the phone.
Lookout doesn't text your phone. All the locating, wiping, and backup functions are done from their website, Mylookout.com.
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Lookout doesn't text your phone. All the locating, wiping, and backup functions are done from their website, Mylookout.com.
I guess the question is...how does Lookout track the phone? From my understanding, most of these types of programs use an SMS pingback of some sort.
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Not trying to hijack the thread but are there any of these sort of apps that don't need to text your phone? I don't have a texting plan and don't want to pay for incoming texts whenever the website activates the tracking of the phone.
If your phone is not worth a 10 cent text, why are you worried about a locator app?

I've got Where's My Droid.
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If your phone is not worth a 10 cent text, why are you worried about a locator app?

I've got Where's My Droid.
Problem is...some people have asked Verizon to completely block inbound text messaging. Wanting an alternative is very valid.

This is not about a matter "worth."
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I guess the question is...how does Lookout track the phone? From my understanding, most of these types of programs use an SMS pingback of some sort.
It uses the GPS. The only downside is that if somebody stole it, they could turn the GPS off. From my understanding you can still wipe the phone if it comes to that.
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It uses the GPS. The only downside is that if somebody stole it, they could turn the GPS off. From my understanding you can still wipe the phone if it comes to that.

Good point. I would hope that we realized it was lost in time that someone wouldn't be able to do that.

If they have no idea about how to use a smart phone, especially android, then I think that would buy you some good time.

If they are Android users and like stealing, welp, we're cooked.
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Are there any apps which meet the following criteria?
  1. Very-low battery consumption when in background
  2. Web interface for tracking the device
  3. Either: does not need GPS on, or preferably: can turn it on through the site
  4. Free, or charges only if tracking the phone
  5. Can "ping" phone to make it audible, even if if it's in silent mode (for when it's hiding in your apartment)

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Looks good, but $20/year is expensive.
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Looks good, but $20/year is expensive.
I agree. I installed it and went to uninstall it in favor of MobileDefense and it locked my phone up. Hassle time.
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Mobile Defense looks good.

Also, I saw this noted on their page
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Are there any apps which meet the following criteria?
  1. Very-low battery consumption when in background
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  3. Either: does not need GPS on, or preferably: can turn it on through the site
  4. Free, or charges only if tracking the phone
  5. Can "ping" phone to make it audible, even if if it's in silent mode (for when it's hiding in your apartment)

Thanks guys!
Lookout does all of that with the exception of #3. I don't think any app can remotely turn on the GPS. Lookout also gives you backup and wiping options too.
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Giving mobile defense a shot, strange thing is that it isn't letting me register my email ... it keeps saying my email is invalid lol

edit: oops, forget it, i had an extra space at the end of my email string, .... it doesn't automatically trim whitespace fyi
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Vote for mobile defence here too. Wiping and backup coming soon i hope.
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Didn't like mobile defense. The whole locking mechanism was a bit confusing where there's really a system pattern lock set, but it's only active when you lock it through their website.

I don't know, just seems like one day, I'll lock myself out of the phone somehow. Maybe that's not the case, but for something I may never use, not worth it.

Plus the system where it text messages you periodically, I didn't like. I don't know how frequent they are, but that seems annoying. There are workarounds to blacklist those texts with 3rd party sms managers, but I just don't think this was the program for me.

Maybe I'll try lookout.
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I have my gps set for on CAUSE IT DOESNT DRAIN THE BATTERY WHEN YOU ARE NOT USING IT. And I tested Wheres my Droid and it worked great! Free, I have excellent battery life, and I dont need to have the app open to find my gps.
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Where is the wiping function in lookout?
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i have where's my droid and mobile defense. I like it but am curious about lookout, might try it and decide between the two.
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Didn't like mobile defense. The whole locking mechanism was a bit confusing where there's really a system pattern lock set, but it's only active when you lock it through their website.

I don't know, just seems like one day, I'll lock myself out of the phone somehow. Maybe that's not the case, but for something I may never use, not worth it.

Plus the system where it text messages you periodically, I didn't like. I don't know how frequent they are, but that seems annoying. There are workarounds to blacklist those texts with 3rd party sms managers, but I just don't think this was the program for me.

Maybe I'll try lookout.
What texts are you talking about? I have had it since day 1 and don't get any texts.

As far as the locking, it is done for max security with what access Android allows them. There are other ways to do it, but they are easily circumvented.

also, from their website:
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Q: Will using Mobile Defense affect my battery life?
A: The only time Mobile Defense consumes battery is when it is actively tracking or performing routine update notifications. There are no continual background services or CPU intensive processes. Battery usage during an active remote session is comparable to the Google Maps application. If you're interested in more information about the performance of Mobile Defense, please refer to this blog post: http://blog.mobiledefense.com/mobile-de erformance

Q: Will enabling GPS drain my battery?
A: Mobile Defense only uses your GPS when you initiate a remote connection via our website. If you see the GPS icon (little satellite dish with green animation) on at any other time it is being used by another application you have installed. Contrary to popular belief, enabling the GPS doesn't actually mean the GPS is consuming any power. GPS will not start looking for signals unless a GPS enabled application is running. This is drastically different from other things such as 3G, WiFi and Bluetooth. Those three constantly try to seek out signals, and thus consume battery power even when they are not used. If you are still concerned with the power consumption of GPS in standby mode, please refer to this interesting post where the GPS on the G1 is tested in various states: How to properly test active GPS power consumption - Android Forums
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Lookout does all of that with the exception of #3. I don't think any app can remotely turn on the GPS. Lookout also gives you backup and wiping options too.
That would be a problem for me and battery life (I'm doing my research now into an OEM 1500 vs. Seidko 1750 upgrade), but according to this comment, that's not something I need to worry about:
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What texts are you talking about? I have had it since day 1 and don't get any texts.
That's weird. There was a large thread in the forum about people trying to figure out how to suppress them.

Q: What is the strange text message (aka SMS) I keep receiving?
A: This message is a randomized security token. This token allows Mobile Defense to stay dormant on your phone and awake only when needed. We intentionally designed our system this way to save battery and free up memory. In previous versions of Mobile Defense we were able to hide these messages; however, recent security changes to Android now prevent third party developers from doing this. We are currently investigating workarounds. In the meantime, be sure to checkout this thread where users driver7125 and RobertHamilton explain their techniques for hiding this message.
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Where is the wiping function in lookout?
You do that through their website, Mylookout.com
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That's weird. There was a large thread in the forum about people trying to figure out how to suppress them.

Ah, well I do use Handcent. Maybe I suppressed something and forgot about it. I do know that I still have MD and just used it, and have not had any texts for a long time.
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yeah I've had mobile defense installed for about 3 weeks and haven't gotten any random texts on either of our incredibles.
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I've tried Where's My Droid, Prey and Lookout. BY FAR, Lookout has the best UI. No texting required, the web interface is great. Other benefits I like about it:

1.) If you're not a fan of anti-virus, that portion can be shut off leaving just backups and phone locator.
2.) GPS doesn't have to be on. I don't run my GPS unless I'm using maps to save battery. Even without GPS enabled, it tracks my phone right to my exact address when testing.
3.) I can shut off email and task bar notifications (task bar on phone app, email on web interface). Last thing I want is for somebody that has my phone to know I've just located my phone.
4.) It's free

Just thought I'd repost this from earlier in this thread since several folks seemed to have missed it. Try Lookout without GPS enabled and see if you get the same results. For whatever reason, it starts out with a map that isn't terribly accurate, but if I wait awhile, the map hones in and gets accurate right to my house. To reiterate...this is with GPS turned off.
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Anonimac suggested Mobile Defense to me. It seems to work well. It's free.

just DL it, thanks!
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I'm still on the fence about Lookout versus Mobile Defense. Good thread, nice to read other peoples opinions.
Same, does anyone have pros/cons of both?

I've been using lookout today, havent had enough time to develop an opinion, I dont have backup or a/v running. can someone comment on whether or not im saving significant battery by doing this? I just dont see the need for either of those functions to be running processes that would use any battery, even if the processes only turn on when I get a new file, or take a new picture or wtvr, it would still add something else "to do" when that happens. Correct?
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You do that through their website, Mylookout.com
Where is the wipe/nuke option there? I could not find it at all.
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+1 for mobile defense, works great with and without gps
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Same, does anyone have pros/cons of both?

I've been using lookout today, havent had enough time to develop an opinion, I dont have backup or a/v running. can someone comment on whether or not im saving significant battery by doing this? I just dont see the need for either of those functions to be running processes that would use any battery, even if the processes only turn on when I get a new file, or take a new picture or wtvr, it would still add something else "to do" when that happens. Correct?
Yeah, I only backup contacts. Could care less about past calls and pics are already saved in Dropbox. I set to once per week and it doesn't take long at all. I think contacts are worth saving regularly and it doesn't take long at all to update them so I'm thinking it's real minimal battery usage. I'm with you on the A/V. All it really does for the most part is scans new downloads but I'm skipping it after having used it for a few weeks just to try it.
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Awesome responses, thanks! Sorry, I didn't mean to abandon this thread, I was just nowhere near a computer all day. I added a poll (as requested) with what seem to be the most common options.
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Same, does anyone have pros/cons of both?

I've been using lookout today, havent had enough time to develop an opinion, I dont have backup or a/v running. can someone comment on whether or not im saving significant battery by doing this? I just dont see the need for either of those functions to be running processes that would use any battery, even if the processes only turn on when I get a new file, or take a new picture or wtvr, it would still add something else "to do" when that happens. Correct?
I'm the same as you. I just want the remote wipe function in case I lose it. I rather not have all my personal accounts out there for someone to use. I don't need backup nor the antivirus.
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