So now "they" say the iPhone is coming to Verizon in January. But the bottom line is: Does anyone actually care at this point?
I mean, before the Droid series came to Verizon I probably would have been following this rumor closely (like I did on the other ten rumors of the iPhones release on big red). Now that I have the all powerful Incredible, I can't be bothered with such nonsense. With the option of the Inc, the gargantuan X, and the hard keyboard on the D2; why would anyone want an iPhone at this point? I'm seriously asking.
Ps. Come January, I wouldn't be surprised if we were seeing a wave of dual core, android powered phones coming up.
Why would Apple care if Verizon has the iPhone? It would be very expensive for them to make a iPhone ONLY for Verizon using a completely different CDMA radio and updating their iOS. The current iPhone is the SAME in all markets and they make a fortune minimizing SKU's.
Apple is about margin over volume, they just got lucky and scored with a high margin and high volume device which is every business's dream. If anything I would see T-Mobile getting it because EU T-Mobile already has it, and changing the bands to AWS instead of 850/1900 is not much of a change in internal design.
I agree with the OP, prior to getting the Incredible I was looking into the speculation of the iphone coming to Verizon (hands down best coverage in my area), however when my new every 2 really kicked in, over the "I qualify early" bit it made either the Incredible or the X a better option at 100 bucks after rebate. I don't like the overall design of the X so I went with the Incredible no regrets at all. Now with replaceable battery and my option of memory selection on top of everything else Android, I haven't given an iphone a second thought...until now anyways.
Why would Apple care if Verizon has the iPhone? It would be very expensive for them to make a iPhone ONLY for Verizon using a completely different CDMA radio and updating their iOS. The current iPhone is the SAME in all markets and they make a fortune minimizing SKU's.
Apple is about margin over volume, they just got lucky and scored with a high margin and high volume device which is every business's dream. If anything I would see T-Mobile getting it because EU T-Mobile already has it, and changing the bands to AWS instead of 850/1900 is not much of a change in internal design.
Apple might care about opening up their product to a few million NEW customers. They've been losing ground, and a lot of it, to Android phones.
Coming to Verizon could make a big difference. Even the fanboys who can't say a bad thing about apple, have plenty to say about AT&T and their "service". I could see a lot of AT&T customers defecting to Verizon if their precious iphone were to be available on a better network.
At any rate, it seems too little, too late. Even if it were available on Verizon, I wouldn't want it over an android powered device.
Apple will get a bunch of new iphone customers if they switch to verizon. Thats for sure. Plenty of apple zombies that wont make the jump to ATT.
However, i own the most recent generation of ipod touch. I own an incredible. I can say im not a blind apple lover or hater. I can honestly say i prefer android. This latest generation of android phone has surpassed apple, and apple has seemed to lose a lot of the innovative-ness that made their ipods\iphones so good in the first place. Apple needs to make some *major* improvements for their next phone, or at the rate android phones are improving, they will be way behind other phones on the vzw network.
Why would Apple care if Verizon has the iPhone? It would be very expensive for them to make a iPhone ONLY for Verizon using a completely different CDMA radio and updating their iOS. The current iPhone is the SAME in all markets and they make a fortune minimizing SKU's.
Apple is about margin over volume, they just got lucky and scored with a high margin and high volume device which is every business's dream. If anything I would see T-Mobile getting it because EU T-Mobile already has it, and changing the bands to AWS instead of 850/1900 is not much of a change in internal design.
I doubt it'd be that hard really, put LTE in it (which i'm pretty sure will still work with the current GSM) along with a CDMA antenna and you have an Iphone "world phone". With ATT and VZW going to the same 4G networks it doesnt seem like it's gonna be any more expensive than usual, just might take a bit longer. They still get universal use and they get to open their platform up to a couple million users.
I've had an ipod touch for a while. I prefer the Android OS, and can't stand the Steve Jobs control freak philosophy.
That said there are a few things the iPhone has that would make me consider it:
1) composite video out is way better on the iPod. With proper widescreen support, the composite out on the ipod makes it an awesome portable movie/slingbox player that I find very useful for playing in the car, at a beach house, etc.
2) I like the ability to download new release movies/tv shows for rental/purchase from itunes, and watch them on the airplane, etc. The Blockbuster app has potential to provide this if it comes to the Dinc and works well.
3) Netflix streaming would be cool. But I assume Netflix on android will beat iphone on Verizon to the market.
Flash may prove to be the killer app that keeps me on the Dinc though. That, and I feel better supporting android than Apple.
If HTC could provide widescreen support for their video out, I'd probably not even think twice.
i thinks its a little to late for iphone on VZW. Droid can do a Sh*t tone more then iphone can (and we dont need bumppers to work properly). VZW if they do get it, it will only be the 3g or 3gs and i feel that it wont really take off because of all the droids they offer. but this is my opinion.
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I think that if you had asked this 6 months or a year ago, the feedback would have been overwhelmingly positive. however in that same time period, Android phones have improved dramatically in both hardware and software terms, and the app store has expanded at an incredible rate. Today's high end Android phones have as high or higher specs as the iphone. sure a lot of verizon customers who wanted an iphone but didn't want att's crapy service would jump on board. The problem is that there are so manty excellent alternatives to the iphone (especially at verizon), that the pool of potential new iphone customers is much smaller than it was even a short while ago (and getting smaller every day).
That plus Apple will not be able to dictate terms to verizon the way they did to ATT. This time around apple needs a distributor, not the other way around. even ATT has been padding their portfolio with android devices. I think that when their exclusive ends, Aple might find itself in a much more hostile environment than the one they started in.
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I only care because my girlfriend has and enjoys her iPhone. I am firmly planted in Android. We may be merging our phone contracts by next year. Verizon has better Android phones than Sprint (for my needs, anyway) so if we can both get our favorite devices, great.
If not, she'll deal with it and learn to love Android as much as I do (not too far off, she likes my Hero as it is)
I think that if you had asked this 6 months or a year ago, the feedback would have been overwhelmingly positive. however in that same time period, Android phones have improved dramatically in both hardware and software terms, and the app store has expanded at an incredible rate. Today's high end Android phones have as high or higher specs as the iphone. sure a lot of verizon customers who wanted an iphone but didn't want att's crapy service would jump on board. The problem is that there are so manty excellent alternatives to the iphone (especially at verizon), that the pool of potential new iphone customers is much smaller than it was even a short while ago (and getting smaller every day).
That plus Apple will not be able to dictate terms to verizon the way they did to ATT. This time around apple needs a distributor, not the other way around. even ATT has been padding their portfolio with android devices. I think that when their exclusive ends, Aple might find itself in a much more hostile environment than the one they started in.
Agreed. Makes me wonder if sprint would be a more likely destination for Apple than Verizon. Would still fit with the CDMA rumors, and would be a major pickup for Sprint, who would probably give apple more control than VZW would.
I doubt it'd be that hard really, put LTE in it (which i'm pretty sure will still work with the current GSM) along with a CDMA antenna and you have an Iphone "world phone". With ATT and VZW going to the same 4G networks it doesnt seem like it's gonna be any more expensive than usual, just might take a bit longer. They still get universal use and they get to open their platform up to a couple million users.
I'm sticking with my DINC either way.
Uh no. An LTE radio alone will not work with GSM just like a UMTS radio will not work with GSM alone. You still have to have all the radios in the thing. The standard calls for compatibility in that any LTE device has GSM fall back by use of another radio. LTE is going to be different frequencies as well. If we want LTE phones then GSM carriers better step up the game and start rolling out UMTS so its EVERYWHERE before we start worrying about devices. 3 or four different technologys for cellular alone not including wifi (on both 2400mhz and 5800mhz now with N)and bluetooth and gps is not cool for your battery.
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Uh no. An LTE radio alone will not work with GSM just like a UMTS radio will not work with GSM alone. You still have to have all the radios in the thing. The standard calls for compatibility in that any LTE device has GSM fall back by use of another radio. LTE is going to be different frequencies as well. If we want LTE phones then GSM carriers better step up the game and start rolling out UMTS so its EVERYWHERE before we start worrying about devices. 3 or four different technologys for cellular alone not including wifi (on both 2400mhz and 5800mhz now with N)and bluetooth and gps is not cool for your battery.
I like my Incredible over the iPhone (and I own a ipod touch) but until the apps and games are more on par with apple I still have a hard time convincing people to Android. But they say better apps are coming...so holding my breath
I will answer this honestly:
I used to want an Iphone and thought it was the coolest thing ever.
Then I decided since Verizon won't have one, I would settle for the next best thing and get an ipod touch.
Then my wife got a motorola droid and I play with it all the time.
Now, I couldn't care less about the iphone/ipod touch and I want to get an android based tablet or something along those lines. I would love an android version of an ipod touch!!!!
That and I don't think people really understand the technology constraints...either way I would like the FCC to come in blow the wistle and drop the monopoly flag and kick some AT&T and apple ass
I think Verizon has too much invested in Droid and Google to offer the iPhone at this point. I think Sprint is the ideal target. A good test of waters to see if customers are interested in the iPhone on a carrier that has a large number of capable Android phones.
[HTML]With the option of the Inc, the gargantuan X, and the hard keyboard on the D2; why would anyone want an iPhone at this point? I'm seriously asking.
Ps. Come January, I wouldn't be surprised if we were seeing a wave of dual core, android powered phones coming up.
How say you?
That's assuming android is the OS they want. Maybe the end user wants iOS.
Remember that this forum is in the minority as would an Apple forum. Its hard to tell how well an iphone would sell on verizon, but I would suspect it to do very well.
I think Verizon has too much invested in Droid and Google to offer the iPhone at this point. I think Sprint is the ideal target. A good test of waters to see if customers are interested in the iPhone on a carrier that has a large number of capable Android phones.
A WiMax and CDMA iphone? LOL. T-Mobile will be next if anyone.
Yea it would be just another choice for a phone if it did come. I dont think it would hurt anything. For ppl thats happy with Android, BB, Win Mo, etc I dont see them switching tho.
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I will answer this honestly:
I used to want an Iphone and thought it was the coolest thing ever.
Then I decided since Verizon won't have one, I would settle for the next best thing and get an ipod touch.
Then my wife got a motorola droid and I play with it all the time.
Now, I couldn't care less about the iphone/ipod touch and I want to get an android based tablet or something along those lines. I would love an android version of an ipod touch!!!!
This was me exactly to a tee. I wanted an iPhone for the past year....until I found Android and the Droid. Now I'm Android for the near future. If anything, I might go back to Win Mo before I go to the iPhone. And after using Android, I want to try a tablet for the first time ever. Never wanted to before. And I want that Google TV...lol
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I think Verizon has too much invested in Droid and Google to offer the iPhone at this point. I think Sprint is the ideal target. A good test of waters to see if customers are interested in the iPhone on a carrier that has a large number of capable Android phones.
I agree. Although Verizon, if its a company that cares about that lil thing called money, I can see them offering the iPhone. Any carrier would. Who wants to turn down a chance to make extra money?
Maybe it would work better now that Android is so entrenched at Verizon. It wouldnt knock Android out the picture, they could co-exist.
If it came to Verizon or Sprint it would be a good test.
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