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After iPhone comes to Verizon, AT&T will be changing all their offices all over the country garbage collecting instead of a cellphone company. With as much bad press as AT&T gets over their crappy service, the iphone is the only thing that's really been keeping it afloat.
That's about to change.
With the addition of the iphone to Verizon, they're about to open a toddlers department for those who wish to switch from a real phone (Android) to the iphone. Either way, AT&T will be laying off people who don't want to work for the sanitation department.
For years when I had my BlackBerry on Verizon I dreamed of them offering an iPhone. Now that android is around I would never use an iPhone. It would be a downgrade, IMO
Nice, they used the Inc to show a removable battery!
I currently have a DINC... and I am happy with it. But I own an iPad, Touch and once had a iPhone 3G & 3GS. Not having a removable battery was never a problem. The removable battery "thing" isnt relevant IMO.
Most people I know bump charge their phones when the are low.... Why are they bump charging or buy a bulky extended battery you ask? Ironically its because having a removable battery on a thin phone gives you a wimpy battery. Ask any DINC, EVO owner.
The only "issue" I have with Android vs iPhone is really Market vs iTunes. An app purchased on the same iTunes account can be shared with devices on the same account. Not so with Market. (somebody correct me if I am wrong plz)
After iPhone comes to Verizon, AT&T will be changing all their offices all over the country garbage collecting instead of a cellphone company. With as much bad press as AT&T gets over their crappy service, the iphone is the only thing that's really been keeping it afloat.
That's about to change.
With the addition of the iphone to Verizon, they're about to open a toddlers department for those who wish to switch from a real phone (Android) to the iphone. Either way, AT&T will be laying off people who don't want to work for the sanitation department.
As much as I agree with you and have an absolute hatred towards AT&T, we still need them. Having the iPhone on Verizon, I fear, will cause a monopoly in the wireless industry. Verizon, knowing how much superior they are compared to AT&T, will be able to raise prices on their services. This may not be good for us.
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This guy is preaching to the Choir! The only two ways that I see my old iPhone being better is the Facebook app rocks with the iphone and their Email all in one inbox kicks ass! If those two items are addressed with the next round of software upgrades I'll be a happy camper!
This guy is preaching to the Choir! The only two ways that I see my old iPhone being better is the Facebook app rocks with the iphone and their Email all in one inbox kicks ass! If those two items are addressed with the next round of software upgrades I'll be a happy camper!
But the Gmail emails don't show up there. You have to open a separate app to get those emails. I want one inbox like iOS has and be done with it. I'm sick of having one app for gmail, and one for my yahoo stuff. And you can't forward the free ymail stuff to a Gmail account. Maybe if you're using the pay version but not for free. I've tried K9 and sometimes I get stuff pushed to me immediately and sometimes I'd get it whenever it decided it liked to do it.
But the Gmail emails don't show up there. You have to open a separate app to get those emails. I want one inbox like iOS has and be done with it. I'm sick of having one app for gmail, and one for my yahoo stuff. And you can't forward the free ymail stuff to a Gmail account. Maybe if you're using the pay version but not for free. I've tried K9 and sometimes I get stuff pushed to me immediately and sometimes I'd get it whenever it decided it liked to do it.
Just set up the same exact account for Gmail under your accounts, just like you would add your Yahoo, AoL, live, etc. mail accounts. Then un-sync the default G-Mail one. It should show up through universal now. If not, go into your universal inbox, hit menu, edit universal inbox, then check the new G-Mail account.
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Yep. I noticed that as well. Why not? As we all know, It IS the iphone killer!!!!
I thought the Nexus 1 was THE iphone killer
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I currently have a DINC... and I am happy with it. But I own an iPad, Touch and once had a iPhone 3G & 3GS. Not having a removable battery was never a problem. The removable battery "thing" isnt relevant IMO.
Most people I know bump charge their phones when the are low.... Why are they bump charging or buy a bulky extended battery you ask? Ironically its because having a removable battery on a thin phone gives you a wimpy battery. Ask any DINC, EVO owner.
The only "issue" I have with Android vs iPhone is really Market vs iTunes. An app purchased on the same iTunes account can be shared with devices on the same account. Not so with Market. (somebody correct me if I am wrong plz)
I have 2 batteries and I think ill be getting a spare battery for all my new phones now because it is so convient imo. I don't have to worry about battery life any more or be hooked to my charger
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I've had every iphone that has come out and I really didn't think I would ever leave........until the droid x. The droid has much better reception, widgets, larger screen, swype, no itunes!!!!, and unbeatable social network and messaging tools. The iphone 4 has a better screen and that is all. I'm sold on the droid and the x especially.
I've had every iphone that has come out and I really didn't think I would ever leave........until the droid x. The droid has much better reception, widgets, larger screen, swype, no itunes!!!!, and unbeatable social network and messaging tools. The iphone 4 has a better screen and that is all. I'm sold on the droid and the x especially.
But the BIG question I have is: is the iPhone sw more stable and less buggy. The more I read here the more I suspect so, and I own neither an Android phone nor an iPhone.
^I agree about the removable battery. I told this story at another forum and iPhone folks dismissed it saying I coulda used a battery pack/charger.
Long story short, our power was out for 1 and 1/2 days. When my battery died....I popped in the spare and kept it moving.
That battery pack/charger they mentioned? It was nice. I may even get one since I have two phones and only one charging cable. (It can charge multiple devices at the same time.)
But, putting in an extended battery...say 2800 to 3500 mAh in my phone....all but eliminates the need for the battery pack/charger.
I also mentioned its like having a flashlight, a spare tire/donut....things you dont need every day but are a live saver when you do need em. I never really got a direct response to that...lol
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Have you owned both? I had the iphone 4 since it came out and finally had enough. Waaaaaaaaaaay too many issues. The dropped calls things is for real.A case helps but doesn't solve the problem completely.overall they just don't get good reception. There are two areas the iphone wins in..their screen is phenomenal and their apps are much better for the most part. Other than that the droid x is a superior phone. I forgot to mention mention its a mobile hotspot, can play any music from anywhere and doesn't freeze up near as much.
The only competition for an Android phone is another Android phone. Its fun to see the majority catch up to speed with what the early Android users have know for a long time now.
Have you owned both? I had the iphone 4 since it came out and finally had enough. Waaaaaaaaaaay too many issues. The dropped calls things is for real.A case helps but doesn't solve the problem completely.overall they just don't get good reception. There are two areas the iphone wins in..their screen is phenomenal and their apps are much better for the most part. Other than that the droid x is a superior phone. I forgot to mention mention its a mobile hotspot, can play any music from anywhere and doesn't freeze up near as much.
I own both now, and even on the bigger screen, I still prefer browsing on the iPhone, as well as most other things. My iPhone has been rock solid from day one.
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But if you're out camping or fishing or on a long hike or some other outside activity and you don't have anywhere to "bump charge" your phone, having another battery is your only option.
I own both now, and even on the bigger screen, I still prefer browsing on the iPhone, as well as most other things. My iPhone has been rock solid from day one.
Android is getting there, but its not there yet.
Its better for you maybe, but don't make blanket statements.
There's no need to jump on his case for still thinking the iPhone is better, it's ok to have that opinion. And the iPhone is a great device in regards to how well it functions for most things. The video is very good at explaining what makes Android better overall. iOS is still more polished than Android but what's amazing is the growth and the potential. iPhone started the revolution but innovation is starting to take over.
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Reading that article, on the second page about the notification bar in the picture of the samsung phone there is toggles for Wifi, GPS, Airplane, and Bluetooth in the notification bar. Is this a samsung only thing or is there an ap out there that can do this? Below is the picture.
Reading that article, on the second page about the notification bar in the picture of the samsung phone there is toggles for Wifi, GPS, Airplane, and Bluetooth in the notification bar. Is this a samsung only thing or is there an ap out there that can do this? Below is the picture.
that is a samsung touchwiz thing...
but I have something similar on my custom rom (CM6 Froyo) I use for my HTC Hero.
Reading that article, on the second page about the notification bar in the picture of the samsung phone there is toggles for Wifi, GPS, Airplane, and Bluetooth in the notification bar. Is this a samsung only thing or is there an ap out there that can do this? Below is the picture.
Yes, its a Samsung thing, though there are also custom ROMs for it. Its such a Samsung thing that their Wave phones with the Bada OS also features an Android like notification bar with these four controls on it too...
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The only "issue" I have with Android vs iPhone is really Market vs iTunes. An app purchased on the same iTunes account can be shared with devices on the same account. Not so with Market. (somebody correct me if I am wrong plz)
You can do this with android too all your apps, contacts and info are linked to your gmail account.
But the BIG question I have is: is the iPhone sw more stable and less buggy. The more I read here the more I suspect so, and I own neither an Android phone nor an iPhone.
You've already formed your opinion then and are just searching out things that conform to it.
But the BIG question I have is: is the iPhone sw more stable and less buggy. The more I read here the more I suspect so, and I own neither an Android phone nor an iPhone.
go to an Iphone forum, just like here, most people come to online forums because they have problems. It doesn't mean everyone's phone has problems (mine ususally doesn't have any problems that I didn't cause myself)
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Just another flaming thread, unlike the jailbreak community the android community needs to constantly compare itself. So much flaming going on that you could think its gay pride month.
The Android is what the Iphone was 5 years ago. it seems that people are forgetting that. in 5 years we will see something new - no need to flame. Maybe an iDroid?!
Its about developing not about who has the longest one.
i own both Android and iOS devices and know that the iOS is less buggy, easy to handle and has a bigger fan base with more high quality apps that dont force close on me everytime I install another app which might just conflict with it.
Just another flaming thread, unlike the jailbreak community the android community needs to constantly compare itself. So much flaming going on that you could think its gay pride month.
The Android is what the Iphone was 5 years ago. it seems that people are forgetting that. in 5 years we will see something new - no need to flame. Maybe an iDroid?!
Its about developing not about who has the longest one.
i own both Android and iOS devices and know that the iOS is less buggy, easy to handle and has a bigger fan base with more high quality apps that dont force close on me everytime I install another app which might just conflict with it.
The one who brags the least, really has the most.
I just clicked on your link for 10 reasons Android 2.2 falls short of ios4 and let me just say 'LOL'! Most, if not all, of the reasons are purely subjective and are opinion based. It only references a few operating functions. It references the use of folders. Hmm, not really an issue or a problem or even a highlight in any shape or form. That's reaching if you ask me. And if that's what you want to base the comparison on then I would say Apple is scratching and clawing at anything and everything it can just to say it's better. Integration into itunes is not exactly a plus to all. Some prefer not to use itunes. Your article and the OP's article both address multitasking. Both say they are better at multitasking. Can anyone chime in here on multitasking on both os?
I would put WAY more value into the OP's article over yours. At least on his it ONLY addressed operating functions, not opinion.
Also, why would you say that the Apple fan base is larger? How would you know this? Would it be by the number of members on their message board websites?
I've seen rapid improvement in the Android OS and in apps in general over this last year (owned Android longer than posted).
Personally, my opinion is that with all of the updates coming out as both Apple and Google keep their products current, most of these comparisons are dated by the time of publication.
Android, today, has the foundation for a superior OS based on its multitasking. iOS is more established. Those factors seem to show in the strengths and weaknesses of each.
That said - I'm on the Android side.
PS to ami2510 - I'm surprised at your report of apps failing that badly. Sometimes that can be cured by a factory reset, because that'll clear your dalvik-cache (and rooted, you probably have a recovery package built-in that'll allow you to wipe data/cache). And with the right choices in Titanium Backup, you can backup and restore most everything, including your desktop so the cache / data wipes aren't so debilitating. Just a thought.
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Just another flaming thread, unlike the jailbreak community the android community needs to constantly compare itself. So much flaming going on that you could think its gay pride month.
The Android is what the Iphone was 5 years ago. it seems that people are forgetting that. in 5 years we will see something new - no need to flame. Maybe an iDroid?!
Its about developing not about who has the longest one.
i own both Android and iOS devices and know that the iOS is less buggy, easy to handle and has a bigger fan base with more high quality apps that dont force close on me everytime I install another app which might just conflict with it.
The one who brags the least, really has the most.
Well, what are you trying to say.....the iPhone didnt come out until 2007.....
Seriously....until Android came out was there something even remotely close to the iPhone's level? It wasnt Win Mo...IMO they waited too long to go to capacitive screens.
I think thats why you see so many comparisons between Android and the iPhone. Probably for the first time since the iPhone came out....there is a real competitor to the iPhone.
I've seen rapid improvement in the Android OS and in apps in general over this last year (owned Android longer than posted).
Personally, my opinion is that with all of the updates coming out as both Apple and Google keep their products current, most of these comparisons are dated by the time of publication.
Android, today, has the foundation for a superior OS based on its multitasking. iOS is more established. Those factors seem to show in the strengths and weaknesses of each.
That said - I'm on the Android side.
PS to ami2510 - I'm surprised at your report of apps failing that badly. Sometimes that can be cured by a factory reset, because that'll clear your dalvik-cache (and rooted, you probably have a recovery package built-in that'll allow you to wipe data/cache). And with the right choices in Titanium Backup, you can backup and restore most everything, including your desktop so the cache / data wipes aren't so debilitating. Just a thought.
Well said... as usual...
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I've seen rapid improvement in the Android OS and in apps in general over this last year (owned Android longer than posted).
Personally, my opinion is that with all of the updates coming out as both Apple and Google keep their products current, most of these comparisons are dated by the time of publication.
Android, today, has the foundation for a superior OS based on its multitasking. iOS is more established. Those factors seem to show in the strengths and weaknesses of each.
That said - I'm on the Android side.
PS to ami2510 - I'm surprised at your report of apps failing that badly. Sometimes that can be cured by a factory reset, because that'll clear your dalvik-cache (and rooted, you probably have a recovery package built-in that'll allow you to wipe data/cache). And with the right choices in Titanium Backup, you can backup and restore most everything, including your desktop so the cache / data wipes aren't so debilitating. Just a thought.
Thank you for this insight. You know, I havent used the phone for as long as you did. I mainly use it to call (i know what a suprise), get emails and install apps, maybe dev a little, maybe see what I can do with some roms (even tho i am somewhat scared). I dont even do any of the social media stuff the phone can do.
I assumed that I can install all kinds of apps without actually messing with the entire phone (hate so say it but just like iphone apps, maybe the 99 dollar fee to dev makes you put in more effort in the creation of apps). I assumed that I can install all the apps i want without compability issues. Well, I was wrong - how silly of me to think that. I always fall back and compare, I know I shouldnt do that.
I do like my mytouch 4g and honestly I rather have a nano second lag when i scroll, then hard reset/erase my phone whenever an app impacts the OS. Its not that I cannot do that, its more that I think it shouldnt happen. I followed you advice and deleted a bunch of apps/cleared chache etc. it seems to run better, i am just wondering is that going to be until i install the next app. i guess its, functionality vs performance. Maybe I am just unlucky choosing my apps.
Best Android advice ever is to use our forums and ask others if they've had any experience with an app in particular before downloading.
I got hit by one rogue app and it was a total drag to clean up after it.
I've got an additional 60 apps on my phone than stock and haven't had the bad troubles other than that.
In this case, google search is better than our built-in one - just google like this:
androidforums insert_app_name_here
I do not like the current update process for Android - we often see all sorts of random complaints for every phone following an update. Often (not always, but very often) these are fixed with a factory reset. We know that clears all cache / data AND apps, but I strongly feel like that's shooting at a mosquito with a .45 - overkill. Until they come out with an redesign of the upgrade process, where it knows how to clean out just the right area(s) without impacting us - there it is, at least we have the trusty hard reset.
Also - I often find that performing a Profile and PRL update after every rom update is really worthwhile. Most of the time, you don't need it, but it goes super-quick and solves hidden issues that a factory reset does not, so I just do it as a matter of personal policy.
I've found the above is great advice for stock as well as rooted users (check your custom rom, tho, it may be better served with recovery cache/data clearing).
This is just the area where Android is showing its youth.