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Old February 9th, 2012, 04:38 PM   #51 (permalink)
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if this were to somehow become the norm as much as I like Android I think I would jump ship to another OS! I think there is way too much backlash for this to ever really take off though.
It'll be interesting to see how this pans out in the longer run, across different operating systems especially. Advertisers are always looking for the next challenge as to exposure to their ads.

Massive consumer negative feedback has had some effect on this junk in the past, but it never seems to actually stop certain ad practices. The "opt in/opt out" strategy is still around (Google and some agencies), but they basically always find a way to "opt" us in whether we want in or not.

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Old February 9th, 2012, 05:05 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Hello everybody,

Sorry for the late reply... too much busy...

And big thank you all for your responses!
That's confirm my thoughts.

I wanted to get your opinion on other thing too even if I guess it ;-)

It exists another indirect way of making money. Some networks pay a fee for each installation of the app. The network SDK install 2 or 3 shortcuts on the Home that redirects to a web search engine.

So, no ads and the user can delete those shortcuts.

So, is it worse, better or the same than notif. ads?

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You should see above that I gave the most in depth response to your AirPush question. I will say that placing icons on my home screen or hijacking my homepage are unforgivable and will land you in my dev blacklist for sure. This would be way, way worse in my book.
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Old February 9th, 2012, 05:52 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Hello everybody,

Sorry for the late reply... too much busy...

And big thank you all for your responses!
That's confirm my thoughts.

I wanted to get your opinion on other thing too even if I guess it ;-)

It exists another indirect way of making money. Some networks pay a fee for each installation of the app. The network SDK install 2 or 3 shortcuts on the Home that redirects to a web search engine.

So, no ads and the user can delete those shortcuts.

So, is it worse, better or the same than notif. ads?

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While still something I wouldn't want that seems like a much better solution if the shortcuts are only placed there once. If it is something that keeps coming back then I don't think that is really ok either.

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Maybe some Japanese will jump the ship ...
KDDI putting ads in the notification bar on Android phones -- Engadget

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That is exactly what I was thinking about when I was talking about the backlash. There was a follow up story that said the carrier was removing the pre installed malware (I'm sure they didn't use those words though)
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Hi pupkact and chrlswltrs !

Thanks you for your replies.
Like you and a lot of people, I do not like apps that send notif ads or install apps without my decision...

So, I'll take your advices into account and will think a lot about the strategy to adopt.

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A new post about AirPush: Airpush ad network continues to grow *cough* SPAM on the Android platformAndroidGuys

Includes a link to the new(ish) Lookout app for detecting AirPush apps: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lookout.addetector&referer=utm_sour ce%3DAndroid+App+Sharer%26utm_medium%3DAndroidGuys %26utm_campaign%3Dblogpost

Remember, Devs, if we find apps that use AirPush we will give them bad ratings and reviews, uninstall them, and post their names the lists on various forums.
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I really don't get how any developer can consider it morally acceptable to use up a customer's data allocation or airtime (whatever their carrier measures) to push ads at them. Unlimited data at the carrier's full speed is rapidly becoming a thing of the past, after all.

I hate ads anyway, but put up with them on some of my apps that either don't have an ad-free edition or that I don't think I use enough to justify paying the selling price (and this from someone who can buy $20 or more of apps in a short time, all of them smaller ones). Passive banners, livable if they're not clogging too much screen space. Animation/sound, NO (that type is why I use adblockers on my laptop). Push ads, ABSOLUTELY NOT AND I WILL NEVER BUY AN APP FROM YOU IF YOU USE THIS! Push ads are IMO right up there with telemarketing, using resources I pay for to interrupt my use of my time and property to shove advertising at me.
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1) Ads in-app? Fine.
2) Ads with an opt-out (not hidden) - maybe.
3) Hidden non-cancelable notifications - Oh Hell No.

For me, this goes for *ANY* notifications by an app. I want to be able to turn off any app notifications by a given app, and AFAICT there's nothing in system settings *and* no apps to do this. Driving me bonkers, I am being limited to a smaller and smaller number of non-annoying apps because there's no app-notification blocker (some of these are not networked, the app itself does it locally).

This is why I hate "call blockers," they're almost useless, because they still ring through once blocking a call (every one I've tried), I'm *still* interrupted when a blocked call comes in!

I'm wishing I'd saved up for an iPhone now.

Edit: PS I downloaded the AirPush opt-out and it doesn't work. Says there's no internet connection (not true).
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1) Ads in-app? Fine.
2) Ads with an opt-out (not hidden) - maybe.
3) Hidden non-cancelable notifications - Oh Hell No.

For me, this goes for *ANY* notifications by an app. I want to be able to turn off any app notifications by a given app, and AFAICT there's nothing in system settings *and* no apps to do this. Driving me bonkers, I am being limited to a smaller and smaller number of non-annoying apps because there's no app-notification blocker (some of these are not networked, the app itself does it locally).

This is why I hate "call blockers," they're almost useless, because they still ring through once blocking a call (every one I've tried), I'm *still* interrupted when a blocked call comes in!

I'm wishing I'd saved up for an iPhone now.

Edit: PS I downloaded the AirPush opt-out and it doesn't work. Says there's no internet connection (not true).
There are 2 ways to screen calls without your phone ever ringing at all.

1. Use Google Voice, and use that for call screening.
2. Root and install Root Call Bocker (free trial app). There may be others, but I have verified that this one works extremely well.

For notifications, try Light Flow (free version). It puts all of your notification controls in a single app. It can control notification sounds, LED, vibration etc for a huge amount of apps. If a certain app is missing the dev is very responsive.
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There are 2 ways to screen calls without your phone ever ringing at all.

1. Use Google Voice, and use that for call screening.
2. Root and install Root Call Bocker (free trial app). There may be others, but I have verified that this one works extremely well.

For notifications, try Light Flow (free version). It puts all of your notification controls in a single app. It can control notification sounds, LED, vibration etc for a huge amount of apps. If a certain app is missing the dev is very responsive.
Can't change my #, haven't found a way to use GV transparently with forwarding and get the calls I want, need to be able to add / change on the road.

Root call blocker is next on the list.

Will check out Light flow. (Unfortunately I don't have a set # of apps I'm trying to block from notifying, I'm trying to block everything but SMS/MMS/Call.)
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2) Ads with an opt-out (not hidden) - maybe.
Danger Will Robinson, Danger!

Never ever use any type of opt-out feature for anything you receive that is unsolicited. This only gives them confirmation that they've contacted a legitimate working number and/or email address.

Stay far away from opt-outs.

I specifically rooted my phone for the sole purpose of removing advertisements (custom host files on my phone, pc and laptop prevent ads). I loath them and will not tolerate them on any device I own. If I use something long enough and they have a donate or purchase version then I will gladly pay. But adverts on my device, no thank you.

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!!!UPDATE!!!

See this article on Phandroid:
Say goodbye to AirPush: you can now disable notifications in Android 4.1 Jelly Beans

If/when you get Jellybean, you will be able to say Good Bye to Airpush!
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Victory will be ours!

Not only does Jelly Bean (if you have it) let you stop apps from pushing notifications, but Google has now revised their app standards for Devs that specifically prohibit apps from installing shortcuts without letting the user know (and have a way to undo it), and prohibit ads from an app that "simulate a notification".

Here are the quotes from the article on the Phandroid front page.

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It must be clear to the user which app each ad is associated with or implemented in. Ads must not make changes to the functioning of the user’s device outside the ad by doing things such as installing shortcuts, bookmarks or icons or changing default settings without the user’s knowledge and consent. If an ad makes such changes it must be clear to the user which app has made the change and the user must be able to reverse the change easily, by either adjusting the settings on the device, advertising preferences in the app, or uninstalling the app altogether.
Ads must not simulate or impersonate system notifications or warnings.
Oh yeah! SCREW YOU, AIR PUSH!

Entire article here: Google’s New Ad Policy Could Signal The End For Airpush and Other Annoying Android Ads

Sing it! Nah nah naaaah nah, nah nah naaaah nah, hey heyyyy hey.... GOODBYE!
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This is great news, I was very happy yesterday when I read about this and saw that google is doing something about spam!
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