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Old May 12th, 2011, 05:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Incredible S vs Galaxy S!

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I want to get a new phone,(still with a tytn 2 )
and I can't pick between the Incredible S and Galaxy S!

Incredible S-
+Dual flash
+Sense
+More ram
+Faster?

Galaxy S-
+More storage-
+Proven to be an amazing device(Incredible S relatively new)
+Ability to be rooted (After warranty period )
+(Good cases)

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Durability (Few years of use)
Speed (Games)
Stability
Awesomeness


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Old May 12th, 2011, 08:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I'll vote for Incredible S, because it fits more to your criteria.

Durability (Few years of use) - IS is from 2011 and has a better build quality than SGS.
Speed (Games) - SGS has a better GPU, but IS is not that much behind.
Stability - I hear more issues on SGS than on IS
Awesomeness - Classic HTC with Sense UI (personal perference).
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hmm, tricky tricky tricky. the SGS is a better phone hardware wise. but the software is junk without rooting, and the build quality is a step down in my opinion. also there are a bunch of apps out there that have trouble running on the galaxy S devices, which sucks
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HTC all the way. I would never ever ever buy any Samsung product.
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im hoping i can provide you with a pretty good opinion, considering i've had the original incredible and the samsung galaxy s (fascinate)

the inc. was an awesome phone, and after having a couple HTC phones (running on sense UI) i don't think i will find a user interface i like better.

i like the look of touchwiz (galaxy s UI) a little more than sense but it was horribly laggy (not as much after rooting) and full of little bugs. My galaxy S has had multiple hardware and signal issues that have driven me crazy, before and after rooting it. also the build quality (specifically the battery cover) is significantly lesser on the galaxy S.

There are also a few things about the placement certain things (screen lock, charging port) on the GS i don't care for either. Overall, i thought (notice this was MY OPINION, not stating a "fact") that the incredible was a much better phone. This doesn't go for everyone, as many people love the fascinate, just as there are people who hated the incredible. One thing about samsung that IS a fact is how horrible their software update timing is. The fascinate just got 2.2 a few weeks ago. about 4 months after the LG ALLY for christ sakes... what a joke!

Notice ive mostly reviewed the galaxy s and only the UI of sense, because i've never had the Incredible S, therefore I'm unable to provide an honest opinion of it. I can, however, tell you that HTC Sense is awesome IMO and HTC seems to make phones with fantastic build quality. I LOVED that incredible, and if i would've known i would have this many problems with my fascinate I never would have gotten rid of it.

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I would take Galaxy S every time, better screen, better GPU so will handle current and future games better, also in that regard it's more future proof imo, it will basically be supported as long as the iPhone 4 is supported as they share simalar hardware, so support will always be good.

Also the standard video/music player is better on the Galaxy S, supports allot more formats,
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hmm, tricky tricky tricky. the SGS is a better phone hardware wise. but the software is junk without rooting, and the build quality is a step down in my opinion. also there are a bunch of apps out there that have trouble running on the galaxy S devices, which sucks
Agreed,it needs to be rooted + sense!
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im hoping i can provide you with a pretty good opinion, considering i've had the original incredible and the samsung galaxy s (fascinate)

the inc. was an awesome phone, and after having a couple HTC phones (running on sense UI) i don't think i will find a user interface i like better.

i like the look of touchwiz (galaxy s UI) a little more than sense but it was horribly laggy (not as much after rooting) and full of little bugs. My galaxy S has had multiple hardware and signal issues that have driven me crazy, before and after rooting it. also the build quality (specifically the battery cover) is significantly lesser on the galaxy S.

There are also a few things about the placement certain things (screen lock, charging port) on the GS i don't care for either. Overall, i thought (notice this was MY OPINION, not stating a "fact") that the incredible was a much better phone. This doesn't go for everyone, as many people love the fascinate, just as there are people who hated the incredible. One thing about samsung that IS a fact is how horrible their software update timing is. The fascinate just got 2.2 a few weeks ago. about 4 months after the LG ALLY for christ sakes... what a joke!

Notice ive mostly reviewed the galaxy s and only the UI of sense, because i've never had the Incredible S, therefore I'm unable to provide an honest opinion of it. I can, however, tell you that HTC Sense is awesome IMO and HTC seems to make phones with fantastic build quality. I LOVED that incredible, and if i would've known i would have this many problems with my fascinate I never would have gotten rid of it.

HOPE THIS HELPS!!!
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I do love sense aswell
Scenes,classic look,overall beauty of it all!
I considered getting the galaxy s,rooting it in a year and installing sense.
And if you preferred the original Incredible over the SGS,the sequel should be better!
Leaning towards the Incredible now.
Build quality seems to be better on the incredible too.

Coming from a Tytn2,i messed with it quite a bit,roms,tried android on it.And found android amazing!

Since you have used both,is there much of a difference b/w SAMOLED and SLCD?


P.S-You play awesome!(Incredible I must say )
Thank you for your time and input
Your opinion helped me tilt towards the HTC
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I would take Galaxy S every time, better screen, better GPU so will handle current and future games better, also in that regard it's more future proof imo, it will basically be supported as long as the iPhone 4 is supported as they share simalar hardware, so support will always be good.

Also the standard video/music player is better on the Galaxy S, supports allot more formats,
The Galaxy S has a better GPU?
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thanks for listening man, im glad you enjoyed my music!

the screen was actually the reason i got the fascinate in the first place. it's not insanely better, but definitely noticeable. that and i wanted a bigger screen.
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The Galaxy S has a better GPU?
Yes, check the link below for more information.

Benchmarking Hummingbird vs Qualcomm 2nd Gen Snapdragon (and Power GSX540 vs Adreno 205) - which is faster? - Smartphone Benchmarks (SmartBench 2010/Quadrant) Forum
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Here(quadrant)-
MSM7x30:
CPU: 3432
3D: 491
Hummingbird:
CPU: 740
3D: 845

The former earns a much higher score on the cpu front,will this affect productivity tasks by much?

Also,based on the following videos-
YouTube - Samsung Galaxy S Quadrant Score when Stock
YouTube - HTC Incredible S Hands On

The incredible S gets 1609,whereas the Galaxy s gets 905
Does this mean the htc is faster?

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Make sure you use the Galaxy S to read text before buying one. The Pentile screen makes text on high contrast backgrounds look fuzzy.
 
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Galaxy S is far better. The Super AMOLED is gorgeous! I do not like Sense. The giant clock that takes up 1/3 of the home screen is a big turn-off.

Just compare how many Galaxy S were sold and how many Incredible were sold should give you some hint on which one is more preferable by the general public.

And frankly, if you have not bought a phone yet, you should not be comparing the new Incredible S with the old Galaxy S. Instead, you should be comparing the Galaxy S II which is coming out in a few weeks. That phone will beat any other phone.
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Nope, quadrant is a pointless benchmark.

But the interface on the Incredible will be smoother out of the box, the Galaxy S scores poorly in quadrant due to Samsungs file system which sucks, but is not as bad as quadrant suggests.

Easy enough to fix, just root the phone and apply a lagfix and you will be scoring 1600+ again.

It's an easy enough process and people here will help walk you through it if you buy one.
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Galaxy S is far better. The Super AMOLED is gorgeous! I do not like Sense. The giant clock that takes up 1/3 of the home screen is a big turn-off.
That clock is a widget. Like any other widget, it can be customized or removed as needed.

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Galaxy S is far better. The Super AMOLED is gorgeous! I do not like Sense. The giant clock that takes up 1/3 of the home screen is a big turn-off.

Just compare how many Galaxy S were sold and how many Incredible were sold should give you some hint on which one is more preferable by the general public.

And frankly, if you have not bought a phone yet, you should not be comparing the new Incredible S with the old Galaxy S. Instead, you should be comparing the Galaxy S II which is coming out in a few weeks. That phone will beat any other phone.
The SGS2 is amazing,but unfortunately too expensive.
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Nope, quadrant is a pointless benchmark.

But the interface on the Incredible will be smoother out of the box, the Galaxy S scores poorly in quadrant due to Samsungs file system which sucks, but is not as bad as quadrant suggests.

Easy enough to fix, just root the phone and apply a lagfix and you will be scoring 1600+ again.

It's an easy enough process and people here will help walk you through it if you buy one.
More ram = more performance?
Lagfix increases the read/write frequency right?
In effect decreasing the life of (memory card/inbuilt memory)?
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This!


Has the ability to burn Galaxy S with a "Wildfire"!
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The incredible S gets 1609,whereas the Galaxy s gets 905
Does this mean the htc is faster?
In certain areas.

Please note the CPU of the Incredible S isn't **much** faster than the Galaxy S, it is at best **slightly faster**. What drags the score down for the Galaxy S is that it has **much slower File I/O**.

If you take the same hardware as the Galaxy S, match it with a much faster file I/O system, then you get a much different result. I'm referring to the Nexus S. The hardware of the Galaxy S and the Nexus S is identical inside, but the Nexus S in my Quadrant scoring, can hit Quadrant in the range of 1700 to over 1800.

Which incidentally, is also the same range as phones equipped with the Qualcomm 8255 like the Droid Incredible 2 aka Incredible S do.

When the SGS gets the Gingerbread upgrade, it will fly as good or better as the Nexus S. It will get rid of the Samsung file system in favor of the Gingerbread file system, plus Samsung having additional optimizations on top of Gingerbread.
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More ram = more performance?
Lagfix increases the read/write frequency right?
In effect decreasing the life of (memory card/inbuilt memory)?
Yes well sort of, changes the file system from Samsungs RFS to ext4, same as what the Nexus S uses. some infrormation below.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=799931

I doubt it will effect lifespan, other phones use ext4, it was just a really poor choice by Samsung.
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CPU - Incredible S CPU is, at most, 5% faster than the CPU in the original Galaxy S. This is in terms of common applications. There are some features that is has (128-bit SIMD instruction set, for example) that it shares with the Cortex A9 that the A8 (used in the Galaxy S) doesn't have. For everyday applications, the Incredible S CPU is the winner, if one has to be picked.

RAM - 768MB (Incredible S) versus 384MB (Galaxy S, 512 if you count the separate 128 dedicated to the GPU).

GPU - Incredible S has a solid GPU, but the Galaxy S has on that is roughly 50% faster, and has 128MB of dedicated RAM.

If you're a gamer (and I don't mean Farmville), get the Galaxy S. Otherwise, get the Incredible S.
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CPU - Incredible S CPU is, at most, 5% faster than the CPU in the original Galaxy S. This is in terms of common applications. There are some features that is has (128-bit SIMD instruction set, for example) that it shares with the Cortex A9 that the A8 (used in the Galaxy S) doesn't have. For everyday applications, the Incredible S CPU is the winner, if one has to be picked.

RAM - 768MB (Incredible S) versus 384MB (Galaxy S, 512 if you count the separate 128 dedicated to the GPU).

GPU - Incredible S has a solid GPU, but the Galaxy S has on that is roughly 50% faster, and has 128MB of dedicated RAM.

If you're a gamer (and I don't mean Farmville), get the Galaxy S. Otherwise, get the Incredible S.
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Is the Incredible S the winner by a lot? Noticeable difference? :/
Also,does the increased ram make a lot of difference?
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Is the Incredible S the winner by a lot? Noticeable difference? :/
Also,does the increased ram make a lot of difference?
CPU performance? No, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference, they are that close.

The Incredible does have more memory but the only applications that wiil use large amounts of memory are games, which will run faster on the Galaxy S anyway.

Also, I doubt the Incredible will actually have 768MB usable, a large portion is reserved for the Android OS, just like on the Galaxy S.
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CPU performance? No, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference, they are that close.
Depends on the task, but you are correct in that the difference won't be noticeable in most cases. However, in the few cases that are noticeable, the Incredible S wins.

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While a chunk is always used, more memory is more memory. Keep in mind that the Galaxy S only has 384MB of system RAM, of which 320-304MB is usable. The original Incredible has 512MB, of which 440-480MB is usable. The Incredible 2/S has 768MB, of which over 700MB is usable.

For gaming, the Galaxy S wins, and the difference is appreciable if you are running truly high end games (IE, games running the Unreal engine, of which there are currently few. I'm only aware of one). For typical gaming, productivity, and phone use, the Incredible S is more future proof, but actual performance differences today are negligible between the two phones.
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For gaming, the Galaxy S wins, and the difference is appreciable if you are running truly high end games (IE, games running the Unreal engine, of which there are currently few. I'm only aware of one). For typical gaming, productivity, and phone use, the Incredible S is more future proof, but actual performance differences today are negligible between the two phones.
It's not more future proof at all, Dungeon Defenders is the only unreal engine based game available to everyone, check the supported devices.

High End - Galaxy S
Mid range - Desire HD

For a device that's more future proof that's not a good start.

But time will tell, but that didn't work out too well for the first Desire, I remember simalar discussions back then, I don't think people realised how bad Adreno 200 was back then.
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It's not more future proof at all, Dungeon Defenders is the only unreal engine based game available to everyone, check the supported devices.
I'm humbly ask that you re-read my post. I was saying that anything outside of gaming. Faster CPU and more RAM means anything outside of gaming makes the Incredible S more future proof. That cannot be debated.

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Mid range - Desire HD
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Suggested Devices:
Best:
All Tegra 2 Based Devices
High-End:
Nexus S
Samsung Galaxy Tablet
Samsung Galaxy/Captivate based Cell Phones
Samsung Galaxy S
Mid-Range:
Droid X
Droid 2
T-Mobile G2
myTouch 4G
HTC Desire HD

Minimum Requirements:
512 MB RAM (256 free at runtime)
GPU capable of OpenGL ES 2.0
Android 2.1
800 Mhz CPU or greater recommended
SD card with at least 600 MB free storage
Keep in mind that this info came out before the release of the Incredible 2. The Incredible 2 uses the same guts as the MyTouch 4G and Desire HD, meaning they are definitely mid-range.

Now, please clarify your point for me. I CLEARLY stated that the Galaxy S was superior for gaming, but for everything else, the Incredible 2/S is more future proof. Can you please tell me where I was wrong in that statement?
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I'm humbly ask that you re-read my post. I was saying that anything outside of gaming. Faster CPU and more RAM means anything outside of gaming makes the Incredible S more future proof. That cannot be debated.
It can be debated, the CPU performance isnt big enough to make a difference regardless how much time passes.

As for memory intensive apps, yeah maybe but I doubt it.
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It can be debated, the CPU performance isnt big enough to make a difference regardless how much time passes.

As for memory intensive apps, yeah maybe but I doubt it.
I'm sorry, but it seems like you are grasping at straws to make some claim that the Galaxy S is superior. A slower CPU and half the RAM means that it isn't as future proof. That means that, outside of gaming, the Incredible S will always be as fast as or faster than the Galaxy S. There's no debate, no matter how much you want there to be one.

And I agree with you that the Galaxy S is superior for gaming. There's also no debate in that.
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I'm sorry, but it seems like you are grasping at straws to make some claim that the Galaxy S is superior. A slower CPU and half the RAM means that it isn't as future proof. That means that, outside of gaming, the Incredible S will always be as fast as or faster than the Galaxy S. There's no debate, no matter how much you want there to be one.
I'm not saying the Galaxy S is superior in this regard but I don't feel the advantage is enough to really be futureproof, it's possible, but an undebatable fact? I don't agree with that, at least not based on how much memory the average app currently uses.
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Thanks a lot for the input guys! =)
I had decided to get the galaxy s,but then discovered the Nexus S
Now stuck between these two :/

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Nexus S - this has more change to get future updates than SGS.
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