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Old August 11th, 2011, 08:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey people, I am just wanting some opinions from those clever people out there regarding this new microSD card that is about to launch.
I am currently using an HTC Legend with a 32gb (Class 10) Lexar MicroSD card in it and it works just fine... There are a lot of posts elsewhere that say that these smart phones will not cope with more than 16gb microSD cards and thus will not put up with 64gb. As my little Legend can cope with 32gb should it be able to handle the 64gb when it arrives on sale?
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I am no expert, but assuming the standards are the same (which I would think they would be, I don't see a reason why this wouldn't work for you.
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pretty sure it won't handle over a 32 gig card (almost 100% positive)

moving to Android Lounge as this is an Android limitation in general, title updated as well
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^^^ Now is this because of software limit, hardware limit, or.... ?
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I am no expert, but assuming the standards are the same (which I would think they would be, I don't see a reason why this wouldn't work for you.
I disagree, windows needed to push a patch to allow for support of 32 gig cards when they came out. That tells me they are different enough that some sort of patch/etc would be required... could be wrong though


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Thank you for your time getting back to me both of you. Ill just have to hope for a patch .... also ill be waiting to see the price tag first as the 32gb cost me an arm and a leg!
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yea, when they are new they are expensive as ****

If i had to bet on it I would say that once they are out (if they aren't already) that then new phones will come out that support it but no old ones will. Purely a guess though
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Well, the product exists (or will exist) so there will likely be a push to have out devices able to use it. Again, I am no expert, but I would guess there will at least be a third party tweak enabling this down the road, and will likely be cooked into new versions of android in the future.
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Well, the product exists (or will exist) so there will likely be a push to have out devices able to use it. Again, I am no expert, but I would guess there will at least be a third party tweak enabling this down the road, and will likely be cooked into new versions of android in the future.
I definitely hope so. Not sure if anything special had to be done when 32's hit the market....
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I'm not an expert, but to the best of my knowledge a 64GB SD card will not work in current Android phones. I believe they use a different hardware setup, software setup, and file system to handle the increased capacity as far as I know. Current phones had to be software upgraded to fully utilize 32GB cards when they entered the market. It was easily possible because they are in the same classification of SD card - microSD-HC. The new 64+GB cards are MicroSD-XC, and use similar but different technology.

I cannot rule out the fact that some hardware setups may be able to run an XC card. But Android software will need an update that changes the read/write programming and file system, which sounds like a major overhaul (but who knows, maybe with Root someone can hack it). Current Android is built on the FAT file system, XC cards require the exFAT file system. As far as I know manufacturers will have to use a new hardware port for XC cards too - I would guess for increased power, better connectivity, or increased transferability and to adopt the new standards or something.


I could easily be wrong, but I feel pretty confident in my research.
Go to the source, the SD Association, for SD card info: https://www.sdcard.org/developers/tech/sdxc/using_sdxc
Feel free to look around the net for other opinions too, that is what I did a while ago when 64GB cards were announced.
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This link was really helpful and will get my laptop multi card reader up to speed for the transition cheers!
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This link was really helpful and will get my laptop multi card reader up to speed for the transition cheers!
They also have an awesome SD Card Formatting tool for the PC. It allows for more options than the phone allows (like FULL overwrite - which does a more complete job on the used portion of the SD card). Bookmark it, it will come in handy sometime.
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The answer to the OP's question is: maybe, but probably not.

As pyrosporker has already said, most if not all android phones currently on the market are designed for SDHC, which is a standard which goes up to 32GB in size. Cards larger than that will require a phone that supports the new SDXC standard - so a 64GB card (which will be SDXC) won't work in a phone that only has SDHC support.

HOWEVER: SDXC is designed to be backwards compatible with SDHC (which in turn is backwards compatible with original SD). When we switched from SD to SDHC some supposedly non-HC devices could read lower capacity (up to 4GB) SDHC cards. Some devices could be made fully compatible with SDHC with a software update. And some devices were stuck with normal SD (limited to cards 1GB in size) for good.

The same things will apply to pretty much every different phone out there at the moment. Some may be able to use 64GB cards already (unlikely). Some may be able to use all SDXC cards with a firmware update (either provided by the manufacturer or via a custom ROM). Some will be stuck with SDHC at the 32GB limit for good.
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I too am using an HTC Legend with the original 4g that came with the set; unfortunately after about 9 months usage, I am experiencing crawling speed with most applications. I am just wondering whether upgrading to a 32gb (Class 10) Lexar MicroSD card would be the solution for me.
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doesnt really sound like that is the sd cards fault
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Well, this should explain a lot:

SanDisk Announces 64GB microSDXC card but don't get too excited | Android Central

So in essence: NO. 32GB is the max right now, and you'll need a special SDXC slot to take advantage of higher-memory cards. But those slots will soon be industry standard... just not now. SORRY!
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From Wiki, if I'm understanding this correctly it could work if Google add support to Android.

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SDHC and SDXC compatibility issues

In the 3.0 specification, the electronic interface of SDHC and SDXC cards is the same. This means that SDHC hosts that have drivers that recognize the newly used capability bits, and have operating system software that understands the exFAT filesystem, are compatible with SDXC cards.

SDHC and SDXC cards and hosts have these compatibility issues:

Existing SDHC hosts will only support the SDXC cards at up to UHS104 speeds.

SDXC hosts are backward compatible with SD and SDHC memory cards.

The operating systems that support SDXC, as of 2011, are: Linux (with a proprietary driver for the exFAT filesystem), Microsoft Windows 7, Windows Vista SP1+, Windows XP SP2 or SP3 with KB955704, Windows Server 2008 SP1+, Windows Server 2003 SP2 or SP3 with KB955704, Windows CE 6+, Mac OS X 10.6.5 or later.
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I ordered the Sandisk 64gb microSDXC and received it on Friday. It seems to be working fine in my Motorola Droid Bionic (non-rooted, stock rom). When I first put it in, it asked me to format it, so I did. In the end it said it has 59.46GB of total space. I have been using and filling it up (transferred about 16GB so far) since Friday and have not had any problems. Have gotten read/write speeds consistent with a class 6 card (6-7 MB/s both read and write using SD Card Tester app).
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I ordered the Sandisk 64gb microSDXC and received it on Friday. It seems to be working fine in my Motorola Droid Bionic (non-rooted, stock rom). When I first put it in, it asked me to format it, so I did. In the end it said it has 59.46GB of total space. I have been using and filling it up (transferred about 16GB so far) since Friday and have not had any problems. Have gotten read/write speeds consistent with a class 6 card (6-7 MB/s both read and write using SD Card Tester app).
To test its true capacity and class you would have to run a test like this:

Download H2testw 1.4 Free - Check your USB for errors with this tool. - Softpedia

I bought an SD card off of Ebay and every computer/camera/camcorder I put it in said it was 32GB but once I ran the test it turned out to only be 512MB. It would let me write large files to it but all it did was rewrite over itself. The test takes a while so don't let your computer fall asleep or you have to start all over again. It also requires a format before starting so you will lose everything that is on it.
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To test its true capacity and class you would have to run a test like this:

Download H2testw 1.4 Free - Check your USB for errors with this tool. - Softpedia

I bought an SD card off of Ebay and every computer/camera/camcorder I put it in said it was 32GB but once I ran the test it turned out to only be 512MB. It would let me write large files to it but all it did was rewrite over itself. The test takes a while so don't let your computer fall asleep or you have to start all over again. It also requires a format before starting so you will lose everything that is on it.
Thanks for the information. I may try this later this week just because I am curious. I am not too worried about it, because I bought it directly from SanDisk and if it does turn out not to be functioning properly then I can return directly to them.
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Man....if this sucker works on Thunderbolt....well, I'm broke and jobless, but it'd be a kick to know I can get it down the road, when the price drops somewhat.
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Wow thats alot of space, What exactly do you need 64gb for?
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Wow thats alot of space, What exactly do you need 64gb for?

I could use it, I am almost out of data on my 32GB micro SD. I've got approx 10k image files stored on it currently, useful when trying to theme something. I ran out of space before and had to delete old backups as well as some older rom zips I wont be needing.
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I cant even fill up my 4GB
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Well, I stand corrected then

I have a 32GB card which is about half full. Not sure when I would ever need a 64GB card, but it's nice to know they're out there.
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Thanks for the information. I may try this later this week just because I am curious. I am not too worried about it, because I bought it directly from SanDisk and if it does turn out not to be functioning properly then I can return directly to them.
It would be hard to believe that you would have any problems with the card when buying it directly from the manufacturer. I picked up another SD card through a reputable retailer and it tested as advertised.
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These cards are working in Android devices - they just need reformatting to Fat32 in the device itself, but after that it works fine. Works in my Galaxy S on Froyo, my SGSII, my Transformer, and my stock HTC Sensation - I suspect it will work in most SDHC compatible devices.

I've already nearly filled the card, oh well... look forward to 128GB cards next year? Better start saving now...

Lots more detail with benchmarks and so forth at AndroidNZ: Sandisk 64GB Micro SDXC cards confirmed WORKING in Galaxy S II, HTC Sensation, Galaxy S

Sandisk 64GB Micro SDXC Vs Samsung Galaxy S II - YouTube
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Simple, Just use " THE CLOUD " You won't need to fill your memory up anymore. Store all your photo's, music, video's, and data on the net and retrieve when you want. Memory on phones will be a thing of the past.
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@Pepee63 - lets see your battery last as long as mine when you stream 20gb music collection from SkyAMP while I play music from a 32gb card. Thing is, cloud isnt so great when it comes to certain things.
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@Peepee63: That'll also be great when the cloud is available anywhere and everywhere, on demand. I have relatives who live literally in the middle of nowhere. And there's no signal, no internet connection... no cloud. I want my stuff with me, at all times, in all places.

And that's in addition to ChanChan's point about streaming: if you're on tiered data, your SOL. Even if you're grandfathered in to unlimited: use too much too fast and they throttle you.

The world is simply not ready for cloud computing yet.
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Well I know what I am putting on my xmas card list! I nearly have my 32g card full with music (never thought I'd get near filling it when I bought it!) and have had to start rotating in and out albums on my phone but it's not ideal because ideally I want to be able to choose what I want to listen to when I want (in car, at home etc). I was, reluctantly, considering buying an mp3 but now i'll just go for one of these cards


GULP: just seen the price of these! Think I may be waiting for a while or going with a touch screen MP3 player.
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Anyone else get one of these cards yet besides the OP? Between the eleven 3D games and nine feature length 3D movies I have on my 3DVO, my 32gig card is maxed out.
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It can just hold 32
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FYI, I got a Sandisk 64gb working on an HTC Thunderbolt.
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I definitely hope so. Not sure if anything special had to be done when 32's hit the market....
It is quite likely to be a compatibility issue. I recall when 4GB SD's wouldn't work in "older" devices like my not-so-old digital camera. 2GB was the max because of the way it was formatted. Now the product manufacturers are saying the same thing about the 64GB and micro-64GB devices. The chip works fine. The issue is will it work in your stuff or do you have to get new stuff.
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I'll be testing this out if it works on the MoPho soon:

SDSDQY-064G-A11A SanDisk 64GB Mobile Ultra microSDHC, up to 30 MB/Sec, Enabled Class 6 Memory Card with SD Adapter

For $79.95, that's probably the best price that'll be available for a while, until the 128gb cards are made/released (who knows when that will be). Nontheless, if it doesn't work, I'll just fall back to my Lexar (Class 10) 32gb.

Hopefully, it'll become a standard in future phones to accept the micro SDXC cards (if it doesn't end up working this time around).
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Happy to report, 64gb microSD formatted fine (59gb available). Already had 26gb of 29gb available loaded on my 32gb microSD. I'll have to put another 6gb of music on the card, but that may take some time.
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I'll reply incase anyone finds this thread with the same question.

It does work in Motorola Bionic. If one does buy this 64 gig card, it give an error that the card is damaged. Just go into settings and format the card and it should be recognized after the formatting.

That's how it worked for me.
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I'll reply incase anyone finds this thread with the same question.

It does work in Motorola Bionic. If one does buy this 64 gig card, it give an error that the card is damaged. Just go into settings and format the card and it should be recognized after the formatting.

That's how it worked for me.
Yup. Same exact process I followed.
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Hey people, I am just wanting some opinions from those clever people out there regarding this new microSD card that is about to launch.
I am currently using an HTC Legend with a 32gb (Class 10) Lexar MicroSD card in it and it works just fine... There are a lot of posts elsewhere that say that these smart phones will not cope with more than 16gb microSD cards and thus will not put up with 64gb. As my little Legend can cope with 32gb should it be able to handle the 64gb when it arrives on sale?
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Interesting thread. It is possible to use a 64 GB microSD card on an Android device. I actually just recently posted a short video on YouTube that shows how to do it. I will post it in another response.
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The video that shows how to use a 64 GB microSD card in an Android device is posted here: How to easily use a 64 GB MicroSD card in an Android Device - YouTube
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I want a 64gb Micro SD Class 10 Card
& what brand is Fastest ?
is there a Class 12
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Here is a link to Amazon 64gb micro sd card. In the reviews section many have been able to use on their phones and tell how they did it and on what phones.

Amazon.com: SanDisk 64GB Mobile Ultra MicroSDXC Class 6 Memory Card with SD Adapter - Retail Packaging: Computers & Accessories
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I want a 64gb Micro SD Class 10 Card
& what brand is Fastest ?
is there a Class 12
Just to let you know The lower class cards 4 and 6 are faster than class 10's at transferring smaller files. Class 10's are faster than 4 and 6 at transferring very large files like HD videos. Sandisk IMO are the best out there. And no there are no class 12's out there that I am aware of.
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I just put that Amazon Sandisk 64gb micro SD in my Galaxy S+ and it's working fine. Moved as many apps as I could, put on 50gb of music, and still have 7-8 gb of free space.
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Anyone tested this sucker with a HTC Thunderbolt?
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Anyone tested this sucker with a HTC Thunderbolt?
I think it's a very high probability it'll work just fine. It's worked with an Original Droid, so anything with the same specs or better than that phone, should work without any issues.
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