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Old October 12th, 2011, 04:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Apparently my texts are being hacked...

I know this has probably been covered before, but I couldn't seem to find it. My texts have been getting intercepted or read on my phone from some other source. I was talking to a friend about taking a trip to Portland, Oregon. Then my girlfriend started getting anonymous texts (presumably from her crazy ex) that were telling her that I was planning on leaving for Portland. Just instigating things. Then I started deleting my texts as I went along. Then they sent another text to her saying, "Ask him why he keeps deleting his text messages." Basically trying to cause a rift or make it look like I'm trying to do something behind her back.

Is it possible that this dude is inside my phone somehow? How do I prevent this from happening again? It's kind of creepy. I have no proof it's this person. I don't even want to get authorities involved. I just want it all to stop. Anyway to stop all this? I think he's accessing my Facebook and email through my phone as well. Pretty creepy stuff. Same kind of thing happened when I had my old number, too.

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Wow, that's so illegal but I don't know that the cops would do anything. Have you tried contacting your phone provider? Maybe they will backup and wipe your phone for you. It sounds like spyware. I wonder how he got access to your phone?
After you get it clean I would change all my passwords as well.
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Yeah, very illegal. I don't like dealing with cops, though. Not to mention I don't know how I would prove it.

I could go talk to the provider and all that... Don't really want to go to the store or anything. Because then I look like 'that guy' who's trying to cover up cheating on his girlfriend, ya'know? (Just in case there's a hottie there I'm trying to pick up on... I kid.)

Definitely a violation of privacy for sure. Not a good feeling. Definitely need this situation fixed.
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To the best of my knowledge the only way for this to be happening means that at some point he got a hold of your phone. There are many 3rd party apps to intercept messages etc but they have to be installed on the targets phone.

Some of them can be sneaky and are tough to find on your own device. Your best bet is to ask yourself if you ever set your phone down to where he could have grabbed it (hack takes only 5 minutes) and had enough time to place such an app on it.

Try DLing lookout and see if that picks anything up. Dig through your apps and folders to see if there is something on there that doesn't make sense. You can also do a full factory reset and that should clear all 3rd party apps.

Only other thing i can think of is if you hook your phone up to open wifi networks on a regular basis. He would have to be on the same network but even i could steal your texts if in the same area and you did that.

It's a new world man. Treat your smart phone like you treat your home computer. Don't leave it around in the open unlocked, don't hook it up to open/non secure wifi networks etc.

Anyway guessing 3rd party app for sure but if not maybe your both on the same network when it happens? Good luck and if all else fails factory reset.
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Side Note: Chances are she could have the spy app on her phone as well. In which case he could see all texts being sent to her along with her replies. Being her "ex" i am willing to bet he had access to her phone at various times. Check both phones.
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Is your phone rooted at all? There's an app called Droidwall that might be of assistance, it allows you to set what goes in/out of your phone, but it needs root access to operate.

If you're not rooted, then as has already been suggested factory reset and changing your passwords would probably sort.
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Sorry to sound like a moron, but I have no clue what rooted means.

She hasn't been with this dude for over three years and I never come in contact with him, so I have no clue how he would gain access to my phone. I just suspect it's him as he tries to get back in contact with her from time to time. And he is genuinely nuts.

I just haven't got the slightest clue how he could get that information. How does he know i'm deleting texts? It's way creepy. I've already switched my number once and changed all my passwords. Seems to be no issue getting into my stuff.
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Like the people above said, do a factory reset. That's the easiest way to get rid of whatever it is.
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Is it possible that this dude is inside my phone somehow?
Unless he had PHYSICAL access to your phone (to install a "keylogger type app"), then no, this is not possible.

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If you truely believe your phone is hacked, just do a factory reset, and it will be unhacked.
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Have you actually seen these anonymous texts on the girlfriend's phone? Have you seen them come in?

As an outsider looking in, this sounds more like a girlfriend who's checking your phone and finding stuff and making up other reasons she knows! Then when you start deleting she masks the question wanting to know why you're deleting them! I could be wrong though...

My suggestion, put a pattern lock on the phone and don't let anyone have the code. Then see if the knowledge of your text message content stops.
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Can the information be coming from another source. For instance are you to telling other people about your plans and activities who could pass this information along. That seems more likely to me, unless you live in some sort of communication vacuum where you can only text. Most of my communication is via means other than texting.
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Sorry to sound like a moron, but I have no clue what rooted means.
"Rooting" is simply gaining administrative access to the file system. It comes from 'nix where the system account with unlimited privileges is called "root".

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I just haven't got the slightest clue how he could get that information. How does he know i'm deleting texts? It's way creepy. I've already switched my number once and changed all my passwords. Seems to be no issue getting into my stuff.
Unless you have some sort of backup app that stores your message database in the cloud, the only way anyone would know you've deleted a text is to a.) see you delete it, or b.) read the original text and then discover it missing at a later date on your phone. Sending a message can be copied and redirected to an unknown recipient, but when you delete a text or thread all you are doing is editing a local database.

Something is definitely fishy with the whole situation.
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"Rooting" is simply gaining administrative access to the file system. It comes from 'nix where the system account with unlimited privileges is called "root".



Unless you have some sort of backup app that stores your message database in the cloud, the only way anyone would know you've deleted a text is to a.) see you delete it, or b.) read the original text and then discover it missing at a later date on your phone. Sending a message can be copied and redirected to an unknown recipient, but when you delete a text or thread all you are doing is editing a local database.

Something is definitely fishy with the whole situation.
It's very fishy. I even get the anonymous texts sometimes, as well...

As far as her doing, I don't know why she would want to? And I am kind of in a communication bubble where most of my forms of communication are via text and internet. Guess I'm going to have to try all the usual things all over again. I don't know how this dude keeps gaining access. I don't think I'm that dumb when it comes to passwords/emails/keeping information to myself.

I guess when it comes time to upgrade my phone, I'll have my number changed again just for the heck of it.

And I have seen the texts personally. I get them from those "send texts from your computer" sites. Bah. Bastards.
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Again, if you are at all worried, just do a factory reset on your phone, case closed.
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Again, if you are at all worried, just do a factory reset on your phone, case closed.
Not necessarily. I have had a couple different phones and this has happened before.
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Not necessarily. I have had a couple different phones and this has happened before.
Well if this has happened with other phones, the only explanation is somebody (the gf or the other guy) is looking at your phones. Besides the couple keyloogger apps that are out there, there is no other way to "hack" a phone to send texts to other phones.
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here is my theory...

he had put on some spyware on her computer in the past.. so he can see what is being typed at what website..

you have used her computer to do some of email reading... that included your google account.. or you use the same info for your google account...

he got your info..

logged into your google account and others...

you need to use a clean computer.. change all your passwords ASAP.
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Here's an update. I woke up this morning to see my phone was trying to download a MMS message. I go to see what it is, and it's from the phone number, "1" and was still in the process of downloading. Could that be someone trying to download the app on my phone?
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Here's an update. I woke up this morning to see my phone was trying to download a MMS message. I go to see what it is, and it's from the phone number, "1" and was still in the process of downloading. Could that be someone trying to download the app on my phone?
There is no auto install from an MMS message. If the attachment is an .apk file, delete it. The "1" just tells me it was sent from a web server and not directly from a phone. You can push apps to a phone, but it's not transparent, even through the market. You'll know that something was installed.
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This is definitely creepy, I know there are SMS text intercepting apps out there (Chinese Android Market has some), but knowing when you delete them??? That's strange, it's as if someone's WATCHING your screen, the only way is via VNC or some kind of remote desktop access, perhaps a malicious app got installed.

PS- if this is a relationship, a possessive ex can be serious trouble, get out of it if you aren't deep into it, I've dealt with one and it's NOT worth it.
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This is definitely creepy, I know there are SMS text intercepting apps out there (Chinese Android Market has some), but knowing when you delete them??? That's strange, it's as if someone's WATCHING your screen, the only way is via VNC or some kind of remote desktop access, perhaps a malicious app got installed.

PS- if this is a relationship, a possessive ex can be serious trouble, get out of it if you aren't deep into it, I've dealt with one and it's NOT worth it.
Once again, the OP just needs to do a FACTORY RESET. If there is something installed on his phone, it was installed by physically accessing the phone, there is no way to just "push" and app to the phone and have it install. Once he does this, we can pretty much be assured it will be done with.
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Once again, the OP just needs to do a FACTORY RESET. If there is something installed on his phone, it was installed by physically accessing the phone, there is no way to just "push" and app to the phone and have it install. Once he does this, we can pretty much be assured it will be done with.
Well, I guess the only way you can push apps to the phone is via the Android market. So, as highly unlikely as it is to have been compromised, you ought to change your gmail password as well as factory resetting.
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Well, I guess the only way you can push apps to the phone is via the Android market. So, as highly unlikely as it is to have been compromised, you ought to change your gmail password as well as factory resetting.
Ahh yes I forgot about the Market push. However, if someone pushed an app to his phone via the market, he would have seen it install and seen the notification that an app was installed.
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Alright... Tried using Google on my phone using my 3G, no wifi. It came up with a captcha saying that there has been unusual activity coming from my computer (or phone in this case). I thought this was very fishy. This stuff is getting pretty old. And yes, I have factory reset my phone and locked it down hard.
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I don't know if gmail tells you this when you get the unusual activity alert, but if you go to the bottom right corner of the gmail page there is an option to view all activity (and the associated IP and location) that has occurred on your account.

Personally I would enable two step authentication for your gmail account. That means nobody is getting into your account without access to your phone, which you've now secured, even if they have your password. It's a bit of a hassle, but worth it IMO.
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Make sure your security question answers are not easy to hack,
your mother's maiden name, "x!f#tT7y" is better than "Smith" and where were you born "kbMx$.jk" is better than "USA" or "Texas"

They use things like where were you born or mothers maiden name to make it convenient for you if you forget your pw but it makes it easier for people, esp people close to you to hack. My way you have to store this info somewhere, you won't remember it, but you close off this backdoor to your account.
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Side Note: Chances are she could have the spy app on her phone as well. In which case he could see all texts being sent to her along with her replies. Being her "ex" i am willing to bet he had access to her phone at various times. Check both phones.

I dont mean to interupt the discussion, but my bet is that hes loaded an app on her phone... he prob had and still have access to it.

If she doesnt believe you, talk with her and you twoplan some bogus texts and let her see if he calls and feed the bait texts to her.

This scary
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Have you actually seen these anonymous texts on the girlfriend's phone? Have you seen them come in?

As an outsider looking in, this sounds more like a girlfriend who's checking your phone and finding stuff and making up other reasons she knows! Then when you start deleting she masks the question wanting to know why you're deleting them! I could be wrong though...

My suggestion, put a pattern lock on the phone and don't let anyone have the code. Then see if the knowledge of your text message content stops.

This sounds right to me. I have used(not anymore) an app that moniters text messages because I am raising my teenage sister in law, and was having troubles. However, unless the app is not built properly, they have no way of knowing that you are erasing them right away.

SMS Tracker used to not log the conversation if you erased them right away. However that has since been fixed.

The only way a person could install that app on your phone is to have physical access. The only way they can access the text log on your phone is to check physically. Sounds like your girlfriend doesn't trust you. Sorry.
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This sounds right to me. I have used(not anymore) an app that moniters text messages because I am raising my teenage sister in law, and was having troubles. However, unless the app is not built properly, they have no way of knowing that you are erasing them right away.

SMS Tracker used to not log the conversation if you erased them right away. However that has since been fixed.

The only way a person could install that app on your phone is to have physical access. The only way they can access the text log on your phone is to check physically. Sounds like your girlfriend doesn't trust you. Sorry.
You have a good point there, my android brethren
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You can remote access the phone, but that requires root. You also need physical access to root and install the app. If you have no clue what root is, you didn't do it.

Here are my suggestions.

Check your app drawer, or app menu to see if there is an app called Super User. If not, no root.

Check the app list for an app called SMS Tracker. However, make sure to check for an app called System Health as well. That is a hidden version of SMS Tracker.
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If it's hacked, can a spyware tell ppl that you deleted some txts?
This whole thing is just sooo creepy, I hope you get it solved soon.
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