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Old November 29th, 2011, 11:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default HTC or Samsung.. WHO is bigger?

from all the past numbers being thrown around... It seem like Samsung was the leader in phone marker OEM..

but.. it seams that i may have looked at it wrong...

PHONEs in general.. Samsung may dominate because the make a lot of dumb phones too.

but with Smarthphones... they are number 2.
per the Nielsen report:
Nielsen Data Confirms: Smartphones Popular, Android Still on Top

HTC clearly has more of the Android and Windows7 market over Sammy. I find that interesting..

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Old November 30th, 2011, 12:37 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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I just read an article which told that HTC have more market than Samsung in Android.
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Old November 30th, 2011, 03:34 AM   #3 (permalink)
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HTC Sense is battery sapping. I guess there is always a price to pay for aesthetics.
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Old November 30th, 2011, 05:52 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Does it matter who sells better? What matters is that we have a choice on who to buy.
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^^^ and more people choose htc.. that is all I am sayin...
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Old November 30th, 2011, 08:55 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Actually price matters too. HTC isn't very cheap and so is Samsung but Samsung do release some low to mid range Android smart-phones. HTC used to be cheap in those early days but now their price is anything but up.
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Old November 30th, 2011, 09:13 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Actually price matters too. HTC isn't very cheap and so is Samsung but Samsung do release some low to mid range Android smart-phones. HTC used to be cheap in those early days but now their price is anything but up.
i am trying to follow your train of thought.. but I am missing your point.
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Old November 30th, 2011, 09:21 AM   #8 (permalink)
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On their phones, Samsung has been very slow with updates in Android versions.

Though perhaps the ones on the HTC phones have been more painful? Still they had Gingerbread 6 months earlier on the Evo than on the Epic 4g.

One of the things that is giving me pause shelling out 400 bucks for a new Sam7 tab plus
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HTC's have the worst batteries ever.
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Well, I have both.
Try out, before you by is the best thing to do. I'm serious.
I consider get a Sensation but I didn't like the design althougt I love Sense.
So I get the GSII. I found it an amazing piece of TeckArt. SuperFast, and now I can live without Sense - Android animation's are enough for me.

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If we are referring to who is bigger as a whole, I think Samsung has the upper hand. Now if we are just talking about smart phones, since smart phone has been rising, I think HTC has Samsung beat. Samsung and HTC phones are usually close in comparison specs wise but as for aesthetics and a broader gender appeal HTC phones has the upper hand.
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Does it matter who sells better? What matters is that we have a choice on who to buy.
I agree completely. Competition is good.
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Last time I checked Samsung sold over 15 million Galaxy S II's and that was before the launch in the US.

Have any HTC phones come anywhere near that?

EDIT: Appears to be info for the US market only as hes refering to US users. Fail.
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Last time I checked Samsung sold over 15 million Galaxy S II's and that was before the launch in the US.

Have any HTC phones come anywhere near that?

EDIT: Appears to be info for the US market only as hes refering to US users. Fail.

i wonder... what the world market would look like? would it resemble the usa's? of course only in Smartphones.
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Old November 30th, 2011, 11:55 AM   #15 (permalink)
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i wonder... what the world market would look like? would it resemble the usa's? of course only in Smartphones.

Of course not, the US always get's the latest Galaxy range way behind the rest of the world, the fact that they sold over 15 million before it was even released in the US should tell you the global percentage will be very different.

Also bada and windows phones take up a very small percentage
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^^^ and more people choose htc.. that is all I am sayin...
Your data is only in the US as far as I can tell. If we did the same thing here in the country where I'm at (Philippines), you'll find that even Nokia Symbian phones, hell even feature phones, outsell HTC. So, that argument is invalid, considering that this is an international forum. We'll have to look at world data if we want a comparison that has some grounds to saying "the people choose HTC". Your data is valid only for the US.
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Old November 30th, 2011, 11:35 PM   #17 (permalink)
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If you go by actual shipment numbers, Samsung now has HTC beat, by nearly 2 to 1. It was possible that Samsung shipped as much as anywhere between 24 to 27 million smartphones alone on the third quarter while HTC did 12 to 13 million during Q3. HTC is already saying in its guidelines its not expecting that Q4 will be any different from Q3, and that pushed HTC's stock down.

And yet, analysts are projecting that Samsung will still beat their Q3 numbers, despite the iPhone 4S, and that is causing Samsung stock to go to a historic high.

In the US, HTC is the surprising leader now in smartphones, even managing to squirt past Apple. In the Android scale in the US, it is now HTC, followed by Motorola and Samsung is third.

But globally, it is Samsung, followed by HTC, and the third is surprisingly, Sony Ericsson, followed by LG and Motorola neck to neck. LG used to be third during Q2, but their smartphone sales actually declined in Q3, and I believe they are facing the full 'Samsung' effect.

There is quite a difference between how Android is viewed in the US and how Android looks to the rest of the world. In the US, it appears highly fragmented because every carrier seems to have their own version like HTC top ends, Vivid (AT&T), Rezound (Verizon), EVO 3D (Sprint), Amaze & Slide (T-Mobile). But for the rest of the world, there are only two dual core top ends, Sensation XE and EVO 3D, as the Sensation having been phased out. Likewise for Samsung, you got Epic Touch 4G, Hercules, S2, and Skyrocket, but for the rest of the world, there is only one Galaxy S2 with the LTE model only available in selective carriers. This LTE model is also sold with the S2 name.

HTC's international marketing is starting to get so confused with Sensation XE, Sensation XL, EVO 3D, Incredible S, Rhythm and so on. But every Samsung Android is called a Galaxy, and the Galaxy S and S2 don't come with any any other name like Epic or Skyrocket or Infuse.

LG is also trying here with the Optima but it looks like Sony Ericsson is doing better with the Xperia line. About 80% of Sony Ericsson's total phone shipments including featurephones are now Xperias.
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HTC's have the worst batteries ever.
Agree. My few colleagues told me they need to charge daily! I guess it could be their usage but they told me they did not use it for long period of time so I guess possibly other things. Nokia battery used to last quite long before a next charge.

Motorola is quite ok about 2-3 days one charge. But don't expect a fanciful launcher/Home screen like what HTC Sense provides though.

No Samsung frens to ask will wait.
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if you're talking about android market, its a toss up but I personally believe Samsung is more popular. Although you cant go wrong with an HTC....they both make good phones, IMO.

if you're talking about overall company size, Samsung is one of the largest company's in the world. I dont think there ISN'T a market that they dont have their hands in.
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In Canada, HTC is the more popular Android phone maker.
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Old December 1st, 2011, 11:21 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I watched the Google/Samsung launch event for the Galaxy Mexus and I believe a Samsung exec said that they are the worldwide leader in smartphone sales, although he may have said Android
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