newsmartphoner

After searching the forums and around the internet I cannot really find a way to transfer contacts between my type of phone and an Andriod system. I have read that one could use the export function to save the contacts as a Vcard file and then export them to Outlook. However, my phone does not have an export function. I can only use Nokia Ovi Suite to download the contacts and messages. I can use a simple data connection for photos, but contacts and messages and calandar items do not appear this way.

Is there a way, there must be, to transfer the contacts and messages and calandar events to my new HTC Andriod phone?

I would really like to see a how to that is clear, tested and works and if someone can give me some details I will write more detailed instuctions on what I did to make it work step by step, but for now I am clueless.

chanchan05

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newsmartphoner

Thanks for this, but none of them are going to work.

1. My phone, although has bluetooth, I think, cannot select all the contacts to send, there is no check box, this phone is quite old. The 3600 C came out I think in like 2007 or 2008, there is no easy way to copy contacts. There is no business card function on this phone that I know of. I have checked everywhere for it. As I said, there is no export function.

2. I have no idea how to use this method. Though as it says I need to download Kies, but I am worried if it does not work the first time, as it says, everything will be messed up.

3. Ovi Suite to Outlook? Really? Seems another third party software is involved. But may work well.

But I am wondering has anyone actually used these other than perhaps the author of this on the other site? It would be nice to hear some positive things that these methods actually work and what are the idiosyncrasies of it all...

chanchan05

I am the author of that on the site LOL. I can guarantee they all work. I am actually a ranked poster at the Nokia Official forums, so I kind of have experience with these questions and all.

As for the Ovi Suite to Outlook, that was actually the main purpose of why PC Suite exists (and eventually evolved to Ovi Suite), to be able to sync to Outlook for the business clients.

I actually did it for my sister, who was using a 5310 xpressmusic (using s40v5 OS from Nokia, just like your 6500C) before she transferred to a Galaxy Fit. Synced her phone via Ovi Suite to Outlook, then synced from Outlook to Kies to Fit. Worked well.

Last edited by chanchan05; January 19th, 2012 at 09:57 PM.

newsmartphoner

LOL Chan, I guess I need to stick my foot in my mouth eh?! Glad you have experience, and glad to find someone who has actually done it and used it and even wrote the dang software! haha.

I have backed up my contacts from the Nokia phone to my PC using PC Suite, I had to go find a copy of it, and then I copied it as a vcs file, will that work? So I have to copy that vcs file to outlook first then and then I can probably even use google aps to transfer to the new phone no? Or use Kies? You wrote that software no?

Ovi Suite doesn't work, I tried it. The files that it creates are not outlook friendly, unless I am not looking in the right place. But I find PC Suite actually did have an export function. so I now have that vcs file, but am unsure how to go from there. Use Kies I guess, I need to download it and try.

thedosbox

I was able to transfer SMS & contacts over from a Nokia E71 to an Incredible S using the included "Transfer" app on the HTC. All I needed to do was enable bluetooth, and follow the wizard-style dialog. After that was done, I use HTC Sync to sync between Outlook and the phone.

My calendar is on a separate Exchange account, so no issues there.

chanchan05

I didn't upload anything to Outlook. In Ovi Suite's settings menu, for the contacts, calendar, etc, there is a tickbox there for "sync to Outlook". You just need to check those. Then plug in your old phone and sync to Ovi Suite. It will automatically sync all three places (Outlook, Ovi, phone). Now you have all your data on Ovi.

Rergarding Kies, you can't use it because you're using HTC. You need HTCSync. I only noticed you were using HTC now, I seemed to have missed that. As dosbox says, some HTC units apparently have that Transfer app.

newsmartphoner

I'm confused.. I already backed up my data to PC Suite and also to OVI Suite, but I never backed up anything to outlook yet. And I am afraid to do that because I do not want to mix my phone contacts with my outlook contacts, is there anyway around it?

chanchan05

Oh so you already have separate Outlook contacts you don't want to mix? That's a bit tricky indeed.

Have you tried using the HTC Transfer app thedosbox was talking about? He claims it works on Nokias.

thedosbox

Use the HTC "Transfer" app. No need to use PC Suite or OVI Suite. It will give you a list of phones it recognizes, then walk you through the process of connecting via bluetooth and copy everything over. It will however delete any contacts and messages already on the Sensation.

http://www.htc.com/help/www/howto_iframe.aspx?id=92948&type=1&p_id=432

Last edited by thedosbox; January 21st, 2012 at 10:08 PM.

newsmartphoner

hi guys, yep, I have other contacts in outlook, like 2000 of them, that I do not want synced to the phone, those are mostly email accounts, and if I mix them together, oh lordy what a mess.

Well I have installed the HTC Sync program, but it is asking me to connect to outlook. What HTC transfer ap are you referring to? HTC Sync? It won't work because it will connect to outlook. Bluetooth I am not familar with using, my pc is supposedly supposed to have bluetooth but it is not working. I have nothing else in sensation, it's a new phone I haven't started using it yet because I am waiting for my 3G service to activate and I want to get my contacts on the phone first.

newsmartphoner

Ok I am trying out bluetooth but running into problems..

old phone, no place to say discoverable.
new phone, paired but not connected, how to get them to connect to each other. The website, HTC Sensation? XL How-tos - Transferring contacts from your old phone, is not complete, something seems missing on how to get the phones to connect to each other. Once I set it up there was no box to check contacts on the XL, actually once bluetooth was set up it just did nothing, what is the next step?

chanchan05

On 6500c, menu>settings>connectivity>bluetooth>on>set visibility to shown to all

thedosbox

[edit] nm, just saw chanchan's post.

newsmartphoner

Yep, that is what I did originally, the settings are correct, but the htc phone is telling me that they are paried by not connected. And even if I do get it connected I am not sure how to get the contacts data from the nokia phone.. but first things first, they see each other but are not connected only paired.

newsmartphoner

Ok I seem was successful in transfering a file via "share" on the HTC phone to the Nokia phone. But I cannot figure out how to share something or send something from the Nokia phone to the HTC phone...

chanchan05

I don't really know much about the HTC Transfer app.

There is another way actually that I learned only after I already made that post in the other forum. However it will make you go through cloud if that's alright with you. Using Ovi Suite, you can sync it to Windows Live if I remember correctly, selecting Windows Calendar and Windows Contacts instead of Outlook. Using Windows Live, you can sync that to a Hotmail account which you can sync to your phone.

Another method going through cloud is uploading the csv file from PC Suite to your Gmail account, and that will automatically sync the contacts to your phone.

newsmartphoner

This is not about the HTC side of things, this is about the Nokia side of things. I can send to Nokia via HTC, but I cannot send to HTC via Nokia, in the Nokia phone there is no option to send anything out in my older phone, which is really strange.

I want to keep this as simple as possible, it seems the bluetooth way is possible, only that for some reason the Nokia phone cannot send anything...

newsmartphoner

Ok well, here is the latest, after awhile of trying this is what I finally had to do. I remembered I have a Nokia C5-00 phone, which is about 2-3 years newer than the 3600C. So using Ovi Suite I transfered everything from there to the C5. Then I fiddled with it for awhile and found it has an export for vcf files. So after some tinkering I was able to get the HTC phone to accept the Nokia C5. HTC is not very easy to find out where message files come into the phone, you have to open up messages by tapping the top and then dragging down the menu of all the recieved messages, and if you do not do it within the time frame the bluetooth discoverable is open, which is only 120 seconds and then transfer will fail. So after about 5 attempts I finally got it working.

Now, big question. I have all these new vcf files on my HTC, but how to get them into the phone's contact area? Right now they are sitting in the bluetooth received folder, do I have to one by one now move them to the contact list in HTC? I found there is a mesasge that asks me how I want to handle the files, but it seems I hvae to move them one by one, by tapping the back button on the HTC phone, is there any way of moving them in mass to the people contact list in phone? I have over 400 contacts, of course tapping and going back is much easier than typing all that data in again, but isn't there a way to select all and then move them to the contact list folder?

chanchan05

Because the 6500c has very limited functionality. In essence, its what people refer to as "dumb phones" as opposed to smart phones like Android, iOS, Windows or Symbian. So its always a PITA to really get those things working outside the normal phone call, sms, games, calendar, music workings.

EDIT: Just saw your new post. In HTC's contact app (I think its called People?) Press the menu button>import/export(should be somewhere there)>then select import from SD card. It will ask you whether you want to save the contacts to your Google account or phone. Saving it to Google account will sync the contacts to the primary Gmail account which you used to activate the phone with if you are connected to the internet. It will sync any new changes as well making the Google Contacts up to date. This is good since if you buy a new phone in the future, you can just activate it with the same Google Account and all contacts will automatically be downloaded without trouble.

Saving it to phone contact, well, makes it not sync.

Last edited by chanchan05; January 22nd, 2012 at 02:48 AM.

newsmartphoner

Hi Chan, indeed the Nokia 6500C is sort of a dumb phone.

The contacts are already sitting on my HTC phone in the bluetooth folder as mentioned above, I wonder if you saw my previous post? This phone has no SD card, it is 16GB and that's it, no expansion. My questions is how to get all of those contacts out of the bluetooth folder on the HTC phone into "People"? I can select one by one, but with over 400 contacts, that will take awhile, is there a function that can select all and move all to the People folder so to speak? Or do you mean that I need to connect HTC Sync to the PC, download the vcf files that are already on the HTC phone to the PC, then move them back to the phone via Google? Wow what a run around to get them there in that case, they are already on the phone, haha.

So perhaps I need to create a google gmail account just for my mobile phone so that the contacts can be synced with this and of course in the future.

Chan by chance are you living in Asia? I wonder because you are replying at the same time I am, and I am in Asia. Happy Chinese New Year!

chanchan05

Kung Hei Fat Choi!. LOL.

The 16GB storage is the SD storage.

If you would look at the file manager, the internal storage is SD, and the external SD is well, external SD. Just do the import from SD.

newsmartphoner

恭禧發財! :-)

I'm confused... No idea how to do what you mention..

And some other questions, after doing an HTC sync, where does it put everything? I looked in documents and there is a folder, but nothing is in it. And HTC sync is annoying because for people it will only sync it to outlook, which you know already I can't do as it will mix contacts together. It makes no mention of gmail... I am really confused on how to get these vcf files to my people easily and then sync them before or after to google mail so that I can sync them in the future to there. It only lists outlook...

Last edited by newsmartphoner; January 22nd, 2012 at 07:57 AM.

thedosbox

re: HTC transfer - once the phones were connected, nothing needed to be done on the Nokia. All of my contacts and messages were copied in one go. However, I don't have a 6500C to replicate what you're doing.

re: sync of contacts to gmail - you don't do this via a PC. Just enable your gmail account to sync contacts. Menu > Settings > Accounts & Sync > Google > Sync Contacts

chanchan05

The vcf files are in your mass storage right? Just go to the people app>menu>import/export>import from sd. Doesn't matter if you don't have an SD card because the internal mass storage is named "sd" in the Android system.

newsmartphoner

I believe I am going to need cell service to do this right? I should have mentioned before right now I am using a simcard without service. I bought the phone right before the new year and the telecom company said they needed two business days, unfortuantely I did not meet the deadline so I have to wait until next monday to actually start using the 3G+internet service on the phone. However, all of those contacts are still in the bluetooth folder.



Actually I am not sure where they are, but they are in a folder called bluetooth downloads right now. I need to check if there is an import/export feature on the memory card or not, I did not see it the several times I went into "people." Cannot find import/export function while in the phone book - people.

chanchan05

They are on SD card. You aren't rooted, and according to you there is no external SD, that leaves you with only one storage option, the internal SD.

Have you went through the menu settings of the People or contacts app? search under menu, or settings, or display more. There's a lot of settings there usually.

newsmartphoner

I am assuming extended menus is the second key from the left with four vertical lines? That brings up a black and white menu? There is nothing there to import contacts... I so wish HTC's manual actually had pictures with step by step instructions for this stuff...

Ok just as typing this message I found it, but I am not sure that I could actually find it again.. it is very difficult to explain or even retrace how I got there.. I would love to be able to make a post now explaining step by step exactely what I did, but unfortunately for this step it might take me awhile, I think a lot of people have these same questions, and HTC needs to write it in the user's manual with pictures.

Now, do I have to follow the same steps to transfer over my messages? I have about 2000 sent messages and about 1000 recieved messages, I think it will take less than a gig for all of these, but is it truely going to slow things down by importing all that?

Where does HTC store all the synced stuff? I cannot find it.

Screen timeout resets after you turn the phone off, is this a problem with the phone or normal thing?

If I need to create a new thread for these, I will.

chanchan05

For messages, I never found out how, and never bothered to, so can't help you with that. Most methods I found on Google never worked.

Synced items are in the system storage, so I would really tell you to just make sure you are syncing you contacts to Google, so you won't have trouble moving contacts next time.

newsmartphoner

Still a little confused how to sync to google, I guess I have to download their application. Gmail for mobile this one right? Well this is going to have to wait until I actually have cell service next week then.

Well the reason I am asking about where HTC stores everything is because I want HTC to upload everything on my phone including all the junk they gave me, because their system stuff takes up 8GB! HALF of what they give you, and a lot of it perhaps I don't need right now. And it would be nice to know where on my system they store that stuff, like contacts, messages, etc. any ideas of which folder it's in?

chanchan05

Its invisible to you. Its on another drive. I don't think all the stuff they gave you uses up 8gb, that's probably something else, not HTC stuff, because you wont see those in storage. Think of it this ways, the 16gb you are seeing is sort of like the D: drive on a PC. All the stuff HTC gave you, with your contacts and messages are in C: drive, but that's invisible to you. Its like if you are on a windows PC and you open My Computer, but C drive is invisible and all you get are mass storage.

You dont need any application to sync to Google. When you imported your contacts, if you chose your Gmail account instead of phone, the contacts will be uploaded to Google automatically. To see what is syncing to Google, from your homescreen press the menu button>settings>accounts and sync>your google account. You really can't upload anything there because its not a storage unit.



EDIT: I understand you are probably confused at the terminology. There are 4 buttons at the bottom of the screen: the home button, the back button, the search button and the menu button. Whenever someone says menu, that's what they're talking about. Unlike in Nokia where the menu button corresponds to "app drawer" on Android.

newsmartphoner

Google is not correctly on my phone. I created a new gmail account for the scyning, but thinking now it may have unnecessary to do that? I did figure out about the menu buttons being on the bottom of the phone, that is where everything is, and every screen you go to it changes the menu. If you are not on the right screen then it is difficult to get to where you want to be in the menus, thus my reason for saying that HTC needs to make a more clear manual on how to use the phone especially for beginners. I am not a technology idiot, but the fact that it takes so much time to find stuff is really defeating sometimes.

Ok back to the google stuff.. ok i follwed your meaning above menu button>settings>accounts and sync> however google is not under there anywhere.

Another question, how to clear out the notifications? I had two failed bluetooth transfer shares yesturday and I still have two notifications in there, I tried both accept and decline the transfer but the messages are still there...

newsmartphoner

Further to the above post, I think I figured it out, I have to add the account, there is a box that lets you add accounts, and I just added google. However, as the process is now starting, though I do not think I can finish it until my sim card is active as it does have to communicate with google over the internet I think to log in. So I am doubting it is going to finish. but I think I figured it out, le tme know if this was what I was supposed to do.

Yeah it failed, I don't have a network connection, so I have to wait until next Monday to see if it works. Once connected then I can sync to google and it will update all my contacts online, right? Then if I change phones, provided it is another andriod, then I just have to sync back to google and Walla all my contacts will be downloaded easily?! :-)

chanchan05

Regarding the manual, there is a generic Android 2.3 manual available, much more comprehensive than the ones provided by manufacturers, since basically, its the same method for almost all of them with just minor alterations and maybe additional features.
http://static.googleusercontent.com/external_content/untrusted_dlcp/www.google.com/en//help/hc/pdfs/mobile/AndroidUsersGuide-2.3.4.pdf

As for your questions:

1.) On my phone, there is a "clear" button when I pull down the notifications menu. You may have to scroll to the top of the list.

2.) Yes you are correct. Actually, even if you get a Windows Phone or a Symbian phone or even maybe an iPhone (not sure on this last), you can download your contacts from Google through sync. However as of the moment, your contacts are now saved as phone contacts and not Google contacts, so they will not sync, since you did not have a Google account when you imported them. You have to delete all the contacts and import them again from SD (if you did not delete the vcf files, if you did just make an export, delete all saved, then import again) and this time choose the Gmail account where you want it to sync.

newsmartphoner

That website should prove very useful, thank you.

1. I cleared it, but I still have two wierd looking icons that bluetooth uses at the top left. And the messages from bluetooth are still there.. Odd.

2. Ok, so I need to redo it, which will get done next wednesday, and I found the on the menu how to delete and delete all at one time. I will reimport them once I have active serivce and make sure that Google is live before I do it. You say delete all saved? Oh ok,, yep I found the on the menu bar, ok this is easy.. Why do I need to export them? Only if I add one durin the time until next week right? Otherwise I can just import them again from the bluetooth file. I still have the bluetooth file.

now, when I sync them to google, will it also import them into the "people" directory for the phone?

chanchan05

1. If there are icons, pull down the notification menu and click on the notification itself. It should open a new screen. Maybe you have to mark them as "read" or something.

2. Samsung handles it differently, but as I understand it, you import them to the People app as Google Contacts, then the People app will be the one to sync it to Gmail as long as its enabled in the Accounts and Sync settings. As for deleting and reimporting, you'd like to delete the Phone contacts, mainly because you'd have both Google and Phone contacts on the phone. You could link them, but its a bit of PITA that you'd have to edit the contacts twice if you have to add a new number to them (editing Phone contacts does not save those edits to Google Contacts), so its better to keep the contacts at either only phone, or only Google.

newsmartphoner

1. All it does is bring up a notification that says accept or reject the transfer, and I have tried both multiple times, they won't go away.

2. So I should actually import it do people apps and people apps will in turn send it to google? Provided I have google enabled. ok well next week will give it a try. What I worry about if I don't delete them as they may end up duplicating themselves which I dont't want. Yep that is wha tI am afraid of. I already need to edit the contacts as people changed area codes on me to three numbers rather than 2, I have no idea why it did that. Anyway ok so in a week or so we will see what happens.

newsmartphoner

In addition to the above.

3. Is there a way to download new apps to my pc and then sync them to the phone? I don't always want to use the phone's wi-fi or internet to download aps as it costs bandwith and more service fees from the telecom company.

Thanks

chanchan05

1. I'd try a reboot at that.

2. Yes there will be duplicates if you dont delete, one contact on two different save points (google vs phone).

3. No. App Market installs only direct to phone.

newsmartphoner

1. you mean turn on and off the phone? Already, doesn't work.

2. ok

3. What I mean is we can use the pc to download the file or through the pc to download and install the file to the phone?

chanchan05

1. Not really sure how, since I accept or reject doesnt work. Maybe a sort of full reboot (turn off phone, remove battery for like 5min and the turn on again) to clear the cache memory?

2.

3. Again, no, you can't download app installers from the Market to your PC. For Android Market, its direct to phone or not at all. There isn't any file on the App Market website for you to download. Clicking on install sort of sends a message to the phone to start downloading the app. You can download from other sources that's not the Android Market, but you should be wary of where you get the apps.

newsmartphoner

1. ok. I have tried it, it deleted them, finally, but is there another way to do this in the future?

3. So most andriod services will just send a mesasge to your phone to install the software. That stinks. How do they expect people still using 2G services to use a smart phone then? Some applications do not require the internet to run? Of course most people use 3G if they buy a smart phone, but.. I was hoping to avoid spending money on downloading the software but it seems I cannot get around it. What are some other reputable sites for downloading aps?

chanchan05

1. I think you just glitched. On my phone those things go away with a press of clear.

2. For the markets, I don't know really. AppBrain, Android Market and GetJar all download direct to the phone. For people running 2G services, there really are a lot of WiFi hotspots around.

newsmartphoner

1. I don't think this phone has a clear, that is unfortuante.

2. Alright, thanks for the feedback. I guess wifi is the only way then, but on my nokia 6500C I don't even have wi-fi enabled! You have to pay extra for anything other than normal cell service, so again, it is very odd that these apps cannot be downloaded to the pc first and then allow us to upload them to the phone via cable sync transfer... just odd to me...

newsmartphoner

Hi Chan, more problems...

I finally got my 3G and internet going this morning, but am running into more issues with contacts.

Do I need to set up the Google account on the phone first?

I tried to import my contacts to people as Google contacts as you said earlier, however, there is no way to do this, once I go into people to import the contacts there is no place for me to tell it to import as Google contacts. It just imports them back to people directly as vcf files...

newsmartphoner

In addition to the above, I am finding it annoying that HTC will only sync calendar and contacts to outlook, it even won't download my pictures.. This is very odd... Why doesn't Andriod have another system where by you can choose either outlook or their own software to help sync stuff. I already have contacts in outlook I don't want to mix. And not being able to figure out this google sync might be the answer for at least contacts, but not messages... hmmm

newsmartphoner

After some playing around, I finally got Google and the HTC phone synced, my contacts are now backed up. But how to back up messages from the HTC phone to the PC or to Google?

In addition is there any way to move the music Google put on the phone to the PC? I would like to keep it but free up space on the phone.

I think I may have to reset the factory settings of the phone because it synced outlook calendar without my knowing and it probably went back 10 years worth of calendar items, taking up lots of space on the phone.

chanchan05

1. Glad you have the contacts fixed.

2. Depends on how you got the music. Google Music for example is on the cloud, not on your phone.

3. Pictures on Google are handled by Picasa, so if you have Picasa on your PC and set the phone to sync to Picasa (this goes through internet as well from PC to phone), you'll see your Picasa albums on your phone's gallery. Personally I use Sugarsync for syncing anything other than contacts and calendar.

4. Google sync to Outlook does not go back 10 years. By default it only syncs about a month or two back, then a month or two forward, with the exception of recurring events.

thedosbox

re: app installations. If your home is connected to the internet via a wifi router, the phone can also use the same wifi router for data instead of the 3G connection. Any app downloads will then go through the wifi connection.

re: syncing between outlook (desktop application) and exchange (server application) are very different things.

The former can be accomplished via HTC Sync, and also syncs pictures and music between phone and PC (not sure about music purchased via google music), as well as calendar and contacts.

Syncing between the phone and Exchange is done via your 3G connection, and should be transparent to you once you've set up the account on the phone (use the HTC mail app).