shadowhog666

ok 1st of hello im new to the site ~ 2nd i want to buy a new android phone, i did some research and specs and features / price for the phones i liked and the 2 that fit perfectly are

Samsung Galaxy W and Sony Ericsson Xperia Play

the samsung galaxy w has an advantage cause of cpu and network speeds but im also a gamer and wants to have of course games on my phone so i just need advice, on which phone can do more app wise and will be more useful / more reliable (hate to break a 1st smartphone)

Frisco

Hello and welcome to the forums, shadowhog.

Xperia? PLAY - Specification - PhonePortfolio - Products - Corporate - Sony Ericsson shows us the specs, memory etc of the Xperia, and

Samsung Galaxy W I8150 - Full phone specifications the W.

A gamer would want to be mindful of memory, RAM as well as ROM, and of course cpu speed.

A high grade, large capacity SD card would also be helpful.

lunatic59

To add a little to Frisco's excellent observation, you might also want to consider the memory configuration. Unless you've had an Android device before you wouldn't realize this but more memory might be more limiting ... and get read for the long winded complex explanation.

The Xperia Play has 1 GB of ram and the Galaxy W has 4 GB. This is internal memory. Because the Xperia has only a 1 GB of internal memory, it is all used for the system. Expansion must be done via an external MicroSD card, up to 32 GB. The Galaxy W has 4 times the memory built in, which on the surface would make one think it's 4x better. Au contraire, mon frère. You see, it's how that memory is configured.

Newer phones and tablets that include large amounts (by current mobile standards) Like the Galaxy W partition them so that you don't have a huge amount of system memory that wouldn't be accessible for file storage. On the Galaxy W Samsung has a 2 GB partition for the system and the remaining 2 GB partitioned and recognized as an sd card by making its mount point /sdcard.

Therein lies the problem. The path to external storage within Android is /sdcard so apps and files that are installed to external storage will be there, which is the internal sd partition, not the removable sd card.

If you have an internal sd card partition, then that will always be the default location for files, apps and data to be stored as defined by the mount point /sdcard. If the phone has no sd card partition, then an external sd card will mount at /sdcard when inserted.

So, in your scenario, especially with games that require a good deal of storage for ancillary files for graphics and data that are stored on the "sd card" (the file location /sdcard), you can find yourself limited by that 2 GB (actually 1.7 GB usable space) partition on the SD card partition even if you have a 32 GB card inserted in the phone, where on the Xperia, you will be able to make use of the full 32 GB of space on an external card.

Now, if your head hasn't exploded yet, you should also be aware that internal memory is generally more reliable than an SD card. There have been incidents where sd card randomly fail losing all the data on it. So, if you keep important data on your phone's SD card, it's very important that you maintain regular backups. Id also recommend you use a class 6 (minimum) or class 10 (better) MicroSD card from a BRAND NAME supplier. There have also been some counterfeit SD cards floating about on eBay and other retail channels that have causes users nothing but grief.

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talhaismail

i have an xperia play, go for it, pretty fast epic gaming phone

Frisco

First Class stuff there, Luna.

The OP will now have quite the tools to make an informed decision.

lunatic59

Or a really bad headache

lunatic59

That would have been my recommendation as well ... with a class 10 32 GM MicroSD card.

shadowhog666

w0w~

~sir Frisco tnx for the tech specs. i would also provide the link for specs but 1st time members have a limit on linking ~ tnx again

hmm, . . . . i get it (for most of the parts) ~ but sir lunatic in their specifications they both have a 512mb Ram~ and the internal memory of Xperia play is 400mb only,

so which one should i go for with the two??

i considered xperia play too but the battery life some says that it really depletes the battery when playing games and im kinda worried that the slide will snap and break instantly ~

i some what understood the concept of the main points and how it works but what i don't understand is where did the 1GB and 4GB ram came

lunatic59

It is confusing. The total RAM in the specs is an incomplete picture. The two areas you need to be concerned with as the system partition and user storage. That 1 GB on the Xperia is for the system even though if only shows 512 mb.

shadowhog666

i see~ well overall your answer which is overall best?

lunatic59

The question is which is overall best for you. Based on spec's alone you have an incomplete picture. Even with some knowledge and experience there are the intangibles of how it 'feels'. I've passed up technically (on specs) devices for other models simply because i didn't like the feel of it in my hand. Since all of its use will be in my hand, i want something i like holding.

Both of your choices will most likely do what you want. I would do two more things before you commit. First go to a store and hold each in your hand and see how they feel. Second, put a list of games that you definitely want and go to the individual device forums and ask the members there if those games play well or if there are problems.

Now, i am not a big fan of taking advantage of retailers, but many offer a return policy with these, so theoretically you could pick up both and return the one you decide against.

Good luck with whatever you decide.