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Old March 4th, 2012, 03:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a new Galaxy Nexus and I was wondering...

Does my data automatically become disabled when my WiFi is connected?

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Not sure if it is different for different phone or carriers, but I do know that with my own HTC EVO on Sprint, that when I am connected to WiFi, both my 3G and 4G antenna shut off. I know this for a fact because the WiFi at work allows me to surf the web and stream music, but blocks e-mail, and as soon as I turn-off the WiFi antenna, the e-mail updates. So I would say that the carrier data is turned off while you are connected to WiFi.
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So, can you still receive calls when that happens?
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Yes it is disconnected but connects for sending/receiving mms, yes you can still make and take calls, it's not related.
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So, if I am not receiving any SMS or MMS, then my data will not be using any of my battery?
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Data is separate from receiving/dialing phone calls and text messages. You can receive phone calls and send text messages with your data off. MMS texting requires data (not wi-fi).

The above has been my experience with my droid razr.
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If you're worried you're using data and connected via 3g or whatever, you can always download Data Enabler Widget from the market, then you'll know for sure you're not connected if you don't want to be.
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What does Data Enabler do? Will it effect my battery poorly?

So, if I am home and my WiFi is on, my data is off and not using my battery?
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What does Data Enabler do? Will it effect my battery poorly?

So, if I am home and my WiFi is on, my data is off and not using my battery?
when wi-fi is on and connected to a router, your 3g data connection will not be used, and will not use battery, but your wi-fi will. In some cases, wi-fi uses more battery than a 3g connection, every person's experience will vary.
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Not to be an ass, but how many different ways do you need to read that your data connection is disconnected when you're on wifi?

When you're at home, why worry about battery? Plug it in.
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Not everyone is being 100% clear. It isn't so straightforward.
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Not one response says you're using data when connected to wifi.
What isn't clear?
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I just wanna be sure.
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So, if i have a widget to turn off my WiFi, my data turns back on when my WiFi is turned off, right? Why would I have a need for a Data Enabler if I am enabling my data upon turning off my WiFi?
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Wifi overrides mobile network only.

You phone is still available for calls/txts...
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So, if i have a widget to turn off my WiFi, my data turns back on when my WiFi is turned off, right? Why would I have a need for a Data Enabler if I am enabling my data upon turning off my WiFi?
You don't, forget about another app to have running.

When wifi is enabled, your moble's data is disabled. Wifi will override data. Not to mention the notification bar clearly shows what is in use.
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So, I turned off my WiFi, but then my data connection never turned back on and I couldn't connect to the internet. My data connection remained off. I looked in my settings and it never went back on. Does it take some time to turn itself back on or something?
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Packet data is supposed to be torned back on as soon as Wifi is disconnected.

If it doesn't, it may be turned off, or it didn't locate the network.

Try turning it off and back on manually.
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How come it remained on? I dont wanna have to manually turn it off. Is that normal?
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Mate, I think you're misunderstanding.

Wifi overrides data packet mobile network (2, 3 or 4G (LTE)

If your 2/3/4G was ON before you started Wifi, they will be overriden, and as soon as you turn off the wifi, they will come back.
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So, lemme get this straight…

If I am at work and I have my phone automatically switch off Wi-Fi, my data will be on.

However, when I get home and my Wi-Fi is automatically turned on, my data seems to remain on.

Do I wanna switch Airplane Mode on when I get home? Will that turn off my data connection and let me only connect via Wi-Fi?

So, it’ll say I am connected via a data connection, but I am not using it?


Even though I am not using it, will it continue to search for the cell towers and kill my battery? Is the only way to avoid my battery draining to manually turn off my data connection?
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So, lemme get this straight…

If I am at work and I have my phone automatically switch off Wi-Fi, my data will be on.

However, when I get home and my Wi-Fi is automatically turned on, my data seems to remain on.

Do I wanna switch Airplane Mode on when I get home? Will that turn off my data connection and let me only connect via Wi-Fi?

So, it’ll say I am connected via a data connection, but I am not using it?


Even though I am not using it, will it continue to search for the cell towers and kill my battery? Is the only way to avoid my battery draining to manually turn off my data connection?
What you're saying is ilogical.

In Android Wifi overrides data connection. You don't need to turn on airplane mode.

Are you rooted? Custom ROM?
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No custom anything, no ROM.

I'm confused because, while in Wi-Fi mode, my data connection still says that it is on (in my settings).

So, it may not be using the data connection, but is my phone still looking for a data connection? Is that draining my battery?
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No custom anything, no ROM.

I'm confused because, while in Wi-Fi mode, my data connection still says that it is on (in my settings).

So, it may not be using the data connection, but is my phone still looking for a data connection? Is that draining my battery?


No, it's not active. In the settings it shows that it's enable, which is totally different from being ON.

Wifi will always override it, you can notice that the Wifi icon in your status bar will replace the data connection on as soon as you turn it on.

No, it will not affect battery because it is disabled.
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I had a similar problem and I wrote myself a widget to switch exclusively from data to wifi connection. Search on the market "wifi 3g connection mode" and please tell me if it helps you.
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Mine seems to have Wi-Fi shut off until I turn on my screen. I also think that I have my phone syncing automatically every 15 minutes in order to get messages. I use "Setting Profiles" and "JuiceDefender Ultimate."
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Dude, Turn your wireless on and leave it on. Pair it to your most common wireless networks (I use Home, Work, Girlfriends house, Friends houses, girlfriends parents house,Local Pub, Mcdonalds and a few other often visited places)
Whenever the phone is in range of any of these places, it will automatically connect. As I walk/drive out of range it reverts back to 3G.
You seem to be getting a little hung up on battery drain. A word of advice..... don't. If you are at home, plug it in, at work? Plug it in. A friends house, chances are there will be a micro usb charger somewhere, plug it in... Unless you live in a tent, in which case you could argue that battery life is important.
Enjoy the phone and try not to get so hung up about battery life and what is draining it.
If you never turn it on, you''ll save loads
Anyone told you about how much battery, bluetooth and GPS use?
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The location setting currently has me at like 1.85x. When I had it off, it was in the 1.7x range.
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Those numbers are ficticional, when I disabled JD my battery life improved, and it used to show x1.6
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It seems to be working way better for me.

In the past 7+ hours, my battery went from 100% to 60%.
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I wouldn't plug your phone in too often or you might mess the battery up and the battery will just die quicker and I don't trust public WiFi spots because there might be eves droppers.
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Yeah, I only plug my phone in when it's nearly died.
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That's good. Never use public WiFi though.
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It seems to be working way better for me.

In the past 7+ hours, my battery went from 100% to 60%.
Post the graphic from that usage.

Mine went from 98% to 45% in 2 hours today, nothing special.
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Reviving this old thread because the OP seems to pose a similar question that I have been searching for.

Another new Android user here and confused about what Android controls. I have a Samsung Galaxy Proclaim (Illusion - S720C) running GB. I've also had a difficult time finding out if 3g is disabled when wifi is on.

Is the status bar the means by which to know what is actually running and consuming power?

It's confusing to me because I don't know what the phone is doing when the power control widget shows wifi is on and the notification and 3g watchdog mobile data switch both show 3g is enabled... and yet the status bar doesn't show 3g until wifi is disabled or disconnected.

That would indicate to me that if the notification screen 3g setting (which mirrors the 3g watchdog switch setting) is on, Android controls the radios such that 3g is disabled whenever wifi is enabled and connected.

And if I turn off 3g via the notification screen or the 3g Watchdog switch, Android will not turn 3g back on or control it until I manually turn it back on.

My conclusion is that regardless of 3g being enabled, wifi trumps 3g if wifi is connected.

The question the OP had (and me, as well): does having both radios turned on adversely affect battery life since only one is in use at any one time?

I have JD Plus, but have had mixed results controlling the radios with it. I have an unlimited plan so am not so concerned about usage, but moreso about battery life.
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I don't know all the technical details, but I can definitely tell you having wireless connected (even without explicitly disabling mobile data) increases your battery life dramatically.

My guess is that the radios are still turned on, but they aren't constantly looking for a signal because you're already connected to wireless.
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My conclusion is that regardless of 3g being enabled, wifi trumps 3g if wifi is connected.

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I think this needs further definition. Trump is not very precise. Even if wifi is on, if I send/receive an MMS msg, that will go out over 3g. So even if wifi is connected, 3g must remain active in order to use services such as MMS. Correct?
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Yes. You can have both connected, but Wifi > 3g, always. Until you send an MMS, your 3g will enable, but then disable.

Don't worry about it being on in settings, doesn't mean it's transferring data, and therefore, using up your allowances.
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I wasn't worried about allowances but about battery power. Seems I was overly concerned about it too. I've now disabled JD from controlling 3g and only let it control wireless now. No more issues with MMS messages.
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Yes. You can have both connected, but Wifi > 3g, always. Until you send an MMS, your 3g will enable, but then disable.

Don't worry about it being on in settings, doesn't mean it's transferring data, and therefore, using up your allowances.
Any idea why I dont receive any notifications through wifi unless I have packet data enabled?

Is this because the notifications come through packet data and not wifi? Or is it that the packet data needs to be enabled for the notifications to come through the wifi?
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Are these text message notifications? What kinds of notifications are you talking about?
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Are these text message notifications? What kinds of notifications are you talking about?
The notifications that appear on the status bar!
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It shouldn't matter if data is enabled to receive a text message, texts go through the radio band not the data network or wifi, unless you are using Google Voice or something similar like that that utilizes data/wifi to text.
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I dont get why people are confused, hell, I leave my data turned off 99% of the time on my phone unless I'm actively using it, still can make calls, texts, etc. Cell phones were able to do both well before smartphones came out.
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But you can't MMS without data. For us CDMA guys, that's any text over 160 characters, best I can tell.
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Old February 27th, 2013, 03:23 PM   #47 (permalink)
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But you can't MMS without data. For us CDMA guys, that's any text over 160 characters, best I can tell.
Yes. In some text messaging apps you can force text messages to be split up at 160 characters however.
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Best way to check and see is send a text or make a call and then check you online usage. If your carrier data works you will see it immediately. I use T-Mobile and it is almost instant and I keep my wifi on all the time.
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