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Old May 15th, 2012, 04:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/15/wsj-google-to-open-nexus-program-to-multiple-manufacturers-at-a-time-sell-directly-through-google-play-store/

This is a huge change, probably good for all Nexus fans with the exception of CDMA peeps.

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I'm hoping one of those manufacturers makes a Nexus phone with a landscape slider keyboard. I know the chances are probably close to 0, but at least it's higher than if only one manufacturer makes a Nexus phone.
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Sucks that half the carriers in the US can't run this.
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That sounds awesome, even if I will never benefit from it as a Verizon customer. I'm still holding out on a tablet purchase to see if they make a 10 inch Nexus tablet.
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I can't wait. I love my Rezound, but things could always be better. I just hope Verizon will get some of these phones. I'm grandfathered into unlimited data.
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I can't wait. I love my Rezound, but things could always be better. I just hope Verizon will get some of these phones. I'm grandfathered into unlimited data.
The fact that Google wants to bypass the carriers make Verizon an impossibility for these phones. CDMA requires proprietary info that the Verizon owns, which forces any phone manufacturer to prostrate themselves (in the form of adding VZW bloatware) to get a phone on VZW's network.
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The fact that Google wants to bypass the carriers make Verizon an impossibility for these phones. CDMA requires proprietary info that the Verizon owns, which forces any phone manufacturer to prostrate themselves (in the form of adding VZW bloatware) to get a phone on VZW's network.

What about the Galaxy Nexus for Verizon? Does that count?

As long as some of these Nexus phone get to Verizon and natively runs the AOSP version of Android 5.0, I'll be happy.
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So a GSM Nexus could be any mfg?
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This is so exciting to me. I hope to buy a Nexus Tablet & Nexus Phone in 2013.

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If this is all true, the game just got real.
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It would be great if they had a high end Nexus phone, as well as mid and entry level versions. That way those wanting stock ICS can have more phone options.
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This is a great idea. It should give aosp android more shine. But if its open to just any OEM can Google support them all. Its only a nexus is Google directly supports it
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I see several options for the future:
  1. Entry Level Nexus
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And the beautiful thing is they could all be from different manufacturers! Or perhaps Google is planning on using Motorola Mobility for the majority of them?

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I can't help but think this will lead to nexus fragmentation
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Probably will. Unless they all use the same chipset.
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I can't help but think this will lead to nexus fragmentation
I am not sure how they will be addressing the differences in hardware, but not having to deal with carriers will make things much easier. And if they manage to offer them for the price of the GNex on the play store, would be the first step in reducing the power the carriers have over their customers/network.
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I can't help but think this will lead to nexus fragmentation
If anything I think this will lead to less fragmentation. All phones are coming from Google and all of them will have 5.0 vanilla android. So all Google has to do is release the update. No manufactures or carriers to go through.

This is awesome and exciting news.
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I am not sure how they will be addressing the differences in hardware, but not having to deal with carriers will make things much easier. And if they manage to offer them for the price of the GNex on the play store, would be the first step in reducing the power the carriers have over their customers/network.
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If anything I think this will lead to less fragmentation. All phones are coming from Google and all of them will have 5.0 vanilla android. So all Google has to do is release the update. No manufactures or carriers to go through.

This is awesome and exciting news.
OMG I've been dreaming this would happen but had resigned myself it never would. What an amazing piece of good news!
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As long as the chip sets are the same I'm fine but with multiple OEM I can't see that happening. As long as the phones are supported BY GOOGLE I'm fine. I have used all the nexus devices and I will keep on doing so. I just hope the idea of the nexus stays the same
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Just hope they include expandable storage in the specs, or at least an adequate built-in. Cloud storage is not an adequate replacement.

That said, this sounds seriously excellent news - especially the European distribution bit
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WSJ: Google to Open Nexus Program to Multiple Manufacturers at a Time, Sell Directly Through Google Play Store – Droid Life

This is a huge change, probably good for all Nexus fans with the exception of CDMA peeps.
I just read this story in today's Wall Street Journal and immediately grasped the import of the news. Now, how will this impact the ROM/modding community? Are we likely to see less mods since more Android phones will be "vanilla" right out of the box?
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Got to love Android for their choices.
One researcher interviewed for the WSJ article says "Google's shift appears to be a move 'to create a more standardized experience for consumers and app developers,' similar to that of Apple." So will this result in less choice?
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Just hope they include expandable storage in the specs, or at least an adequate built-in. Cloud storage is not an adequate replacement.

That said, this sounds seriously excellent news - especially the European distribution bit
That's never going to happen we are better off asking for 32 gb built it built in is better anyways no need for partitions or any of that crap
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That sounds awesome, even if I will never benefit from it as a Verizon customer. I'm still holding out on a tablet purchase to see if they make a 10 inch Nexus tablet.
Why not move on to another carrier, then?
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If anything I think this will lead to less fragmentation. All phones are coming from Google and all of them will have 5.0 vanilla android. So all Google has to do is release the update. No manufactures or carriers to go through.

This is awesome and exciting news.
+1 I agree and I can't wait for this to happen. The Canadian carriers are not known for their fast updates. I think this would be ideal if OEM release a new phone, they release one with their Skin and another one just Vanilla that's sold through the Google Store. This is utopia for us Android lovers!

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As long as the chip sets are the same I'm fine but with multiple OEM I can't see that happening. As long as the phones are supported BY GOOGLE I'm fine. I have used all the nexus devices and I will keep on doing so. I just hope the idea of the nexus stays the same
This is already the case with the Galaxy Nexus. The Verizon Galaxy Nexus uses the TI OMAP 4460 processor while the GSM Galaxy Nexus uses the Exynos processor. I don't really see an issue with different chips being used.

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I just read this story in today's Wall Street Journal and immediately grasped the import of the news. Now, how will this impact the ROM/modding community? Are we likely to see less mods since more Android phones will be "vanilla" right out of the box?
Actually, I don't think this is much of an issue. All Nexus phones have bootloader that is quite easily unlock. These phones are very developers friendly. Most Nexus owners are into the hacking and roming of their phones. Those that don't root but want to experience vanilla Android OS might migrate from a skinned Android phone. This will most likely not diminish the rooting community for the Nexus phones. It will segregate the Nexus rooting community a bit. As now everyone owning a Galaxy Nexus might get either a Nexus X, Nexus Y or Nexus Z next year.
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This is already the case with the Galaxy Nexus. The Verizon Galaxy Nexus uses the TI OMAP 4460 processor while the GSM Galaxy Nexus uses the Exynos processor. I don't really see an issue with different chips being used.
Actually they both use the TI OMAP. And the difference between the Verizon GNex is huge aren't they just getting 4.0.4.
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Sucks that half the carriers in the US can't run this.
Yeah, but they're running CDMA and deserve to fail. Can't you switch?
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Actually they both use the TI OMAP. And the difference between the Verizon GNex is huge aren't they just getting 4.0.4.
Still haven't gotten it, not officially anyways. Yet another reason that Verizon is most likely not going to get another Nexus, from the comments from Google engineers about the length of time to get an update approved, to VZW blocking Google Wallet, Google is probably done ever working with VZW directly, at least till VZW is off CDMA, and fully LTE.
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Still haven't gotten it, not officially anyways. Yet another reason that Verizon is most likely not going to get another Nexus, from the comments from Google engineers about the length of time to get an update approved, to VZW blocking Google Wallet, Google is probably done ever working with VZW directly, at least till VZW is off CDMA, and fully LTE.
From what I read you can't build cdma from the normal GSM source. It just seems like a hassle to build to a technology only a few carriers use.
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If I had to guess, phones by HTC, Moto, and Samsung, and tablets by Asus and Samsung. Maybe a surprise from LG or Pantech phone wise, and Acer or Toshiba tablet wise.
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So long as you can purchase the phones in Australia coz at the moment you can't buy the Galaxy Nexus through their store if you live in Australia.
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I just saw an article that V is bringing out a phone that can take a European SIM for those that travel - so if this is true, why can't the phones be dual? Whatever network would deal with activation.
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I'm definitely looking forward to the next Nexus. I was debating on getting the Galaxy Nexus but I probably will skip it. I heard alot of positives and a lot of negatives as well. Going with the new EVO and will start saving for the new Nexus coming this fall. I love that they will have multiple devices to choose from. I'm betting on Samsung or HTC.
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If the Play store sells to Canada at the same time as it sells to the US, then I'm in And the phone has to be penta-band!
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