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Old May 26th, 2012, 11:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have been considering buying a tablet for the first time. I'm still swaying though. I travel a lot so it isn't practical taking a tablet and a laptop with me. For example, I'm backpacking South America later this year and less is more when travelling...so I don't want to take a laptop, tablet and mobile phone.

Due to this, I'm considering using a combination of a laptop and the new Samsung Galaxy S3 for games, browsing the web etc. This is probably the most practical solution as a tablet does not replace the functionality of a tablet.

However, I'm not sure if I need all the functionality of a laptop. I'm self employed on the web and work when I do travel but there are only a few key applications that are vital for me:

* A good browser
* FTP Access
* File Management
* Photoshop or some equivalent for cropping and resizing images

Applications such as exel can be replaced easily with Google Docs (I actually use Libre Office for spreadsheets and documents). There are online applications for FTP and image cropping etc too but I'd prefer to have a native solution, at the very least for cropping images etc as the services that are available for that aren't very practical in my opinion.

The transformer prime or infinity is a good option due to the great in built keyboard, though I could get a good keyboard case for pretty much any tablet so I don't have to buy that one.

Does anyone have experience with working on the web using a tablet for working online. I'd love to make the transition to working online from a tablet as the battery life is much better (generally) and it's much lighter for me to travel with (though not by much when you include the keyboard).

Are tablets powerful enough to do this i.e. switching applications quickly, file management etc.

Would love to hear from others who use their tablet for work as well as play

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Yes as long as you are not doing heavy processing. Browsing on a tablet is more pleasant because of portability, long battery life and interface. ES Explorer should give you the FTP and file management. My galaxy tab comes with a simple photo editor but I have yet to use it. As long as you understand that there will be a substantial compromise compared to a good laptop you should be satisfied. Don't expect a $10 android office app to have the same functionality of Microsoft Office costing $130. For full sized tablet with keyboard check out the ASUS tf300. The ASUS keyboard will add another 5 hours to the up to 10 hrs of the tablet.
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Thanks for the quick reply Funpig.

I've looked at the Asus TF300. It's essentially a budget version of the prime but has a great spec. The 64GB version of the prime is out in the uk already.

I'm currently living in Colombia. Laptops are generally a little cheaper here than in the UK but they usually get things a little late. The only Asus Transformer being sold just now is the TF100 (though it's fairly cheap at £380 compared to £429.99 in the UK). I'm back in the UK next month so could pick up the 64GB prime. Would love to use it for a few hours in order to test all this

I am happy to make a few compromises with a tablet as long as the essentials are covered such as a good browser, FTP and photo cropping application. I don't use any specialist software. Other than FTP, Photoshop and Chrome, the only major application I use on my laptop is Skype. I use that every day but I know all tablets have that covered already. Other than that, it's just games, and tablets are good for gaming so that's not an issue.

The new samsung galaxy tab 2 looks nice. I've seen it here and it looks great. It's been getting poor reviews though and is apparently quite sluggish.

Sounds like the only thing that could give it problems is cropping large images. I assume managing files etc is fine with ICS. Multi tasking looks good on it too.
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From what you say, a tablet would suit you fine. Its just simple picture cropping, internet browsing and word processing. As long as you won't be doing page layouts and advanced photo editing (anything beyond the capabilities of MS Paint) you'll be fine. A little video editing can also be done.

IMO a tablet is best as a secondary computing device, more of a repository or access point on stuff produced on a full powered PC.
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No I won't be doing advanced page or photo editing. I hire designers for most design work. I will need to open Photoshop PSD files from time to time though.

Another thing I was worrying about was the 1GB of ram in the device. I usually have around a dozen or so tabs open in Chrome at the same time and switch between them all. My samsung laptop has an i3 processor and 4GB of ram and when I have too many tabs open that can struggle with it.

I do think the tablet is best suited as a secondary device. At home I have a 27" imac and a 15.4" windows gaming laptop which I use to work..but when on the road I am happy to make some sacrifices to make things more portable. Though I don't want to limit me too much. A macbook air and samsung S3 combo could be just as productive (or perhaps the galaxy note).
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Interesting question. I am constantly struggling with this myself. When I first bought my tab (Acer A500), I also thought (and tried) to restrict myself to the tab. I quickly found the following:

1. A tablet is a consumption device. A little less so with the soft KB; And, a little more less so with a built in KB (like that of the Asus Prime and others). Nevertheless, a tab remains a primarily consumption device.

2. My work involves a lot of writing. So, the tab is out of the question. If I was in a situation like the OP, I would have to carry 3 devices - Phone, Tab, and Laptop.

3. I use my tab for the following things: Reading (including annotating); Email; Web-based research; Skype (sometimes - usually, I'll use my laptop because I am making notes when I am on Skype). For all this, the tab works well.

4. Usually when I travel, I carry a lot of books (all work related). Previously it was a problem when carrying the physical books. Then I started putting pdf and EPUB version on my laptop. Still was a bit inconvenient. Te tab works very well in this regard. Recently, I got the Adobe reader and it makes handling documents (especially pdf) much easier.

So, to sum up, I'd say that the tab is not yet mature enough to completely replace my laptop...but it is getting there!
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Reading is something I'd like to do with a tablet. I have a kindle (3G keyboard edition). I used it heavily when I first came to South America as I was downloading Spanish grammar books etc. I found that it was easier to learn through apps on my iphone (primarily Brainscape - which is unfortunately not on Android yet). I would love a tablet for reading books and PDFs on occasion - though, like you, this means carrying a third device

It's not a major problem though as it only weights 247 grams and my girlfriend effectively owns it now. The samsung 7" tab is only 345 grams though.

I was considering getting a 7" tablet due to it's weight and portability....not sure if there's much point if I get the Samsung Galaxy S3 as that has a 4.8" screen.
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Usually when I travel, I carry a lot of books (all work related). Previously it was a problem when carrying the physical books. Then I started putting pdf and EPUB version on my laptop. Still was a bit inconvenient. Te tab works very well in this regard. Recently, I got the Adobe reader and it makes handling documents (especially pdf) much easier.
Think I'm in a similar situation to yourself. I do a lot of blogging via my laptop so would need something like the asus transformer or a really good keyboard case to even consider switching to a tablet.

I've got a lot of web development and marketing books on PDF but it's just not practical to read them via the kindle (it really is awful). A tablet would be a great way to view them. Again, it comes down to having to carry another device. Plus, when travelling, the kindle is a great option due to how long the battery life (on e-ink models). It's just not practical to charge a phone, tablet and laptop whenever I visit somewhere new as I won't always have time to do so.
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For PDF and EPUB reading, I prefer Mantano Reader.
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Looks pretty good. What's the advantage of using that over the kindle app?
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Reading is something I'd like to do with a tablet. I have a kindle (3G keyboard edition). I used it heavily when I first came to South America as I was downloading Spanish grammar books etc. I found that it was easier to learn through apps on my iphone (primarily Brainscape - which is unfortunately not on Android yet). I would love a tablet for reading books and PDFs on occasion - though, like you, this means carrying a third device

It's not a major problem though as it only weights 247 grams and my girlfriend effectively owns it now. The samsung 7" tab is only 345 grams though.

I was considering getting a 7" tablet due to it's weight and portability....not sure if there's much point if I get the Samsung Galaxy S3 as that has a 4.8" screen.
Honestly, this - the screen-orientation issue - is another thing that I have been agonizing about. I have found the primarily landscape orientation of most Android tabs (personal experience only with the Acer) makes reading books/ texts a bit counter-intuitive. OTOH, the portrait mode, which is slightly better makes a 10 inch tab quite unwieldy to handle. So, there is a problem here.

From what I have seen of the iPad, I think the situation is a bit better - my guess only since I have never used an iPad.
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Thanks. I'll give it a shot.
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The iPad 3 is arguably the best tablet around due to its screen and choice of tablet specific apps. It's lack of a SD slot and ridiculously long charging times puts me off though. As does having to spend a long time converting files and transferring them via iTunes just to be able to watch a movie on it.
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Not really sure, never used the Kindle app. I don't think I have much access to Amazon content anyway since I'm not in the US.
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This is the thing.. I don't think an iPad can replace a laptop, because it depends on connecting it to a PC or Mac running iTunes in order to get content on or off of it. Unless one is happy to buy all their music, movies, etc. only from the iTunes Store.
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Photoshop Touch is on both ios and android app stores, and will handle your photo editing needs, extremely well.

iPad 3 can now be jailbroken and give you complete access to its file system. and even without jailbreaking, any video format can be played on an ipad without conversion, with an app like AVPlayerHD (and there are many others ike this in the app store.) it would be nice if people that had no clue about the ipad, would stop putting out bad info.

the iPad does not need to plug into itunes or a pc to get content. OS updates are OTA. Cloud storage is easily accessible. large 2gb sized media files are probably best transfered to a tablet via pc, but again, you don't need iunes for this if the ipad is jailbroken. and even with Android ,large files like that are transferred via pc to an android phone or tablet.

and if you are planning to get a keyboard to go with a tablet, well you might as well get a Macbook Air at that point, imo. if you stick with a tablet, there are advantages and disadvantages to the ipad and android tablets like the tf300t, but it sounds like the tf300t may get you more of what you need (tablet wise).
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This is the thing.. I don't think an iPad can replace a laptop, because it depends on connecting it to a PC or Mac running iTunes in order to get content on or off of it. Unless one is happy to buy all their music, movies, etc. only from the iTunes Store.
this used to be the case, but this is no longer correct. Apple would prefer this, however. You an buy any ios device and never plug it into a pc. os updates are ota , content can be transferred via wifi, bt or via the cloud or purchased directly on the device through the app store. plugging in to a pc and using itunes would only be required if you had to do a complete restore. Additionally, the ipad can play any format of video, without conversion, you just use a 3rd party app ownloaded via the app store.

if you are jailbroken on an ios device, then you have the same capabilities as andriod in this area.
if you do not know what an ipad is capable of, please don't put out false information.
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or Alkido would be another option. I like this one do to it's ease of use and similarities to iBooks.
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Photoshop Touch is on both ios and android app stores, and will handle your photo editing needs, extremely well.

iPad 3 can now be jailbroken and give you complete access to its file system. and even without jailbreaking, any video format can be played on an ipad without conversion, with an app like AVPlayerHD (and there are many others ike this in the app store.) it would be nice if people that had no clue about the ipad, would stop putting out bad info.

the iPad does not need to plug into itunes or a pc to get content. OS updates are OTA. Cloud storage is easily accessible. large 2gb sized media files are probably best transfered to a tablet via pc, but again, you don't need iunes for this if the ipad is jailbroken. and even with Android ,large files like that are transferred via pc to an android phone or tablet.

and if you are planning to get a keyboard to go with a tablet, well you might as well get a Macbook Air at that point, imo. if you stick with a tablet, there are advantages and disadvantages to the ipad and android tablets like the tf300t, but it sounds like the tf300t may get you more of what you need (tablet wise).
Without wanting to get into an Apple versus the rest kind of a situation, I would observe that I don't need to either jailbreak or even root my Android tab to do the things you mention.
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this used to be the case, but this is no longer correct. Apple would prefer this, however. You an buy any ios device and never plug it into a pc. os updates are ota , content can be transferred via wifi, bt or via the cloud or purchased directly on the device through the app store. plugging in to a pc and using itunes would only be required if you had to do a complete restore. Additionally, the ipad can play any format of video, without conversion, you just use a 3rd party app ownloaded via the app store.
That's for video..what about music or audiobooks? Can I just download MP3s, WMAs, OGGs and M4As from Baidu or Google.cn and play them directly on the iPad, in the same way I can with an Android tablet? Without using a computer and iTunes?

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FYI we have several iOS devices around the office here. Non jailbroken though. Everyone seems to sync them with iTunes, when they want to add content.
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Photoshop Touch is on both ios and android app stores, and will handle your photo editing needs, extremely well.

iPad 3 can now be jailbroken and give you complete access to its file system. and even without jailbreaking, any video format can be played on an ipad without conversion, with an app like AVPlayerHD (and there are many others ike this in the app store.) it would be nice if people that had no clue about the ipad, would stop putting out bad info.

the iPad does not need to plug into itunes or a pc to get content. OS updates are OTA. Cloud storage is easily accessible. large 2gb sized media files are probably best transfered to a tablet via pc, but again, you don't need iunes for this if the ipad is jailbroken. and even with Android ,large files like that are transferred via pc to an android phone or tablet.

and if you are planning to get a keyboard to go with a tablet, well you might as well get a Macbook Air at that point, imo. if you stick with a tablet, there are advantages and disadvantages to the ipad and android tablets like the tf300t, but it sounds like the tf300t may get you more of what you need (tablet wise).
I'd prefer to use an mouse with any photo editing program, and the iPad doesn't support that (as far as I know).

I have an iPhone 4, the original iPod touch and a 27" iMac so I am far from an apple hater (I might buy the new mac air when it's released next month too), though I think the iPad is terrible for watching movies offline due to it's lack of ports.

I'm flying back from South America to the UK in a few weeks time. It's a 10-11 hour flight to Madrid and another 3 hours to the UK (well actually longer as I fly into London and then have another internal flight). Unfortunately, unlike most major airlines, the airline I'm flying with doesn't have in-flight entertainment apart from a general TV every 15 rows or so.

So the perfect solution would be to just copy 5 or 6 films to an SD card and then insert it into a tablet. You can't do this with an iPad, which is a shame as the screen is so beautiful. I'd have to connect it to my PC and then transfer all files manually, which is a real pain in the ass. Doing it wirelessly is very slow but is a good option - though with the HD apps taking up so much room I might not have 10 GB of space to use.

I'd definitely still consider buying an iPad 3 though. Apart from the SD card problem, the main issue for me is charging the battery. I've read reports of the battery taking over 8 hours to fully charge and when playing some graphic intensive games the iPad battery discharges even when plugged in. This isn't practical for someone who travels a lot. It's an amazing device though and it's something I'm still considering buying despite these issues.

I disagree that if you are going to buy a keyboard for a tablet, you are as well getting a laptop. Many people only really use the browser in their laptops so by adding a keyboard to a tablet you have a device that is useful for blogging, browsing the web, emailing etc.

I don't think tablets can fully replace tablets at the moment or if they ever will. They are still very different devices. For me, I only need a few additional features in order to make the jump.

Apart from using my friends tablet briefly and playing with tablets in electronic stores, I have no real experience with tablets. How do tablets cope with a browser having around 10 tabs open. Does it really slow down the device due to it only having 1GB of ram?

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That's for video..what about music or audiobooks? Can I just download MP3s, WMAs, OGGs and M4As from Baidu or Google.cn and play them directly on the iPad, in the same way I can with an Android tablet? Without using a computer and iTunes?



Does jailbreaking allow me to do the above, downloading MP3s directly from websites?



FYI we have several iOS devices around the office here. Non jailbroken though. Everyone seems to sync them with iTunes, when they want to add content.
Yes, a jailbroken ipad can do everything mentioned here. I use both ICS and iOS tablets daily. You can download torrents, pet's, mp3's, avi, mkv, etc and play them directly on the iPad. No need for a pc.

If you are not jailbroken, and it is a large video file, a PC would be required.
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That's for video..what about music or audiobooks? Can I just download MP3s, WMAs, OGGs and M4As from Baidu or Google.cn and play them directly on the iPad, in the same way I can with an Android tablet? Without using a computer and iTunes?
That's one thing I hate about ios. It's very restrictive in many ways. Since getting my first phone about 13 years ago, I've changed my phone every 6 to 9 months. The iPhone 4 is the longest I've used any phone without feeling the urge to sell it and trade up.

There are lots of little things that annoy me though. For example, you aren't even allowed to remove the newstand app even though the app is terrible. You can't put it inside a folder to hide it either. It just stays there on your screen even though I have no intention of ever using it. Having to use itunes to upload music is a pain too.

This closed system does have some small benefits though (e.g. the android app store has a huge amount of crap on it).
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Yes, a jailbroken ipad can do everything mentioned here. I use both ICS and iOS tablets daily. You can download torrents, pet's, mp3's, avi, mkv, etc and play them directly on the iPad. No need for a pc.

If you are not jailbroken, then downloading music, books, movies, TV shows is all done on the ipad via the app store. Again, no need to plug into a PC. If you want to use iTunes, you can, but it is no longer a neccessity.
That's encouraging to hear. Did you notice a drop in performance when jailbreaking. I jailbroke my iphone. Some of the apps I installed were great but I noticed the phone was noticeably slower so I reverted it back.

Out of interest, what tablets do you own?
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That's encouraging to hear. Did you notice a drop in performance when jailbreaking. I jailbroke my iphone. Some of the apps I installed were great but I noticed the phone was noticeably slower so I reverted it back.

Out of interest, what tablets do you own?
Sorry, I edited the non jailbroken bit. It's been a long time since I had a stock ipad. I never use iTunes.

I own an ipad 2, Samsung Tab 8.9, HP Touchpad CM9 with 4.0.4 ICS in dual boot configuration and I had a Kindle Fire (returned). The 8.9 sits idle for now because Honeycomb sucks so bad and I have no need to root or put a leaked ICS rom on it with the official version coming soon. And I always jailbreak my idevices. They are useless to me otherwise. And loading the right tweaks is an art to ensure no fc's or slowdown. It also helps if you can alter files so winterboard is not needed.

That said, I am completely dropping my idevices on June 1, and will be Android only. I have grown tired of iOS.
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That's one thing I hate about ios. It's very restrictive in many ways. Since getting my first phone about 13 years ago, I've changed my phone every 6 to 9 months. The iPhone 4 is the longest I've used any phone without feeling the urge to sell it and trade up.

There are lots of little things that annoy me though. For example, you aren't even allowed to remove the newstand app even though the app is terrible. You can't put it inside a folder to hide it either. It just stays there on your screen even though I have no intention of ever using it. Having to use itunes to upload music is a pain too.

This closed system does have some small benefits though (e.g. the android app store has a huge amount of crap on it).
You can hide the newsstand app icon, even with a stock idevice. There are tons of articles and YouTube vids on how to do this. Takes 2 seconds.

As for music, I don't bother downloading music anymore. Pandora or a site like mp3skull using a web browser like Atomic web browser is your best bet.
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Sorry, I edited the non jailbroken bit. It's been a long time since I had a stock ipad. I never use iTunes.

I own an ipad 2, Samsung Tab 8.9, HP Touchpad CM9 with 4.0.4 ICS in dual boot configuration and I had a Kindle Fire (returned). The 8.9 sits idle for now because Honeycomb sucks so bad and I have no need to root or put a leaked ICS rom on it with the official version coming soon. And I always jailbreak my idevices. They are useless to me otherwise. And loading the right tweaks is an art to ensure no fc's or slowdown. It also helps if you can alter files so winterboard is not needed.

That said, I am completely dropping my idevices on June 1, and will be Android only. I have grown tired of iOS.
I've had a look at the kindle fire in the store. It's ok but the lack of cameras is annoying. I think the blackberry playbook is a much better deal compare to it (though the app situation sucks).

I quote like the Samsung tablets. I've not seen the 7.7" version yet. It's got a good spec and the screen is apparently amazing. I liked the look of the Galaxy 2 but the reviews have been very disappointing. It seems like they are content going after the middle of the market rather than compete with the iPad or Asus Transformer. They've replaced the 2MP front camera with a VGA camera. As someone who uses Skype every day, the 2MP camera was a big plus for me. It seems strange that they are downgrading specs rather than keeping them the same or improving them.

I like the fact the device is lighter than the iPad though (it's about 565 grams). If I do use a laptop, tablet and phone combo - I'd want to keep the weight of the tablet down. My laptop is only about 1.2kg so is fairly light. When I'm travelling I could put that in my main bag and use the tablet in the airport and on the plane.

Out of interest, what's the significance of June 1? Are you selling your iPad or buying a new android tablet?
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You can hide the newsstand app icon, even with a stock idevice. There are tons of articles and YouTube vids on how to do this. Takes 2 seconds.

As for music, I don't bother downloading music anymore. Pandora or a site like mp3skull using a web browser like Atomic web browser is your best bet.
Thanks for the tip. The newsstand thing has annoyed the hell of out me. I've followed a guide on YouTube but for the life of me I can't get it to work. Not sure if it works on the latest version of ios.

I don't like relying on web connections for things like music and movies - doesn't really help if you're on a place or doing a 24 hour bus journey. I generally listen to music via my phone but a tablet would be good for music too (with the larger interface etc).
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I've had a look at the kindle fire in the store. It's ok but the lack of cameras is annoying. I think the blackberry playbook is a much better deal compare to it (though the app situation sucks).

I quote like the Samsung tablets. I've not seen the 7.7" version yet. It's got a good spec and the screen is apparently amazing. I liked the look of the Galaxy 2 but the reviews have been very disappointing. It seems like they are content going after the middle of the market rather than compete with the iPad or Asus Transformer. They've replaced the 2MP front camera with a VGA camera. As someone who uses Skype every day, the u2MP camera was a big plus for me. It seems strange that they are downgrading specs rather than keeping them the same or improving them.

I like the fact the device is lighter than the iPad though (it's about 565 grams). If I do use a laptop, tablet and phone combo - I'd want to keep the weight of the tablet down. My laptop is only about 1.2kg so is fairly light. When I'm travelling I could put that in my main bag and use the tablet in the airport and on the plane.

Out of interest, what's the significance of June 1? Are you selling your iPad or buying a new android tablet?
Yep, putting my ipad up for sale and using the money to buy the SGS3 when it is released here in the US. June 20 is the rumor. I am upgrading from my SGS2. My HP Touchpad will be my main tablet until ICS arrives on the Samsung 8.9
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Yep, putting my ipad up for sale and using the money to buy the SGS3 when it is released here in the US. June 20 is the rumor. I am upgrading from my SGS2. My HP Touchpad will be my main tablet until ICS arrives on the Samsung 8.9
It's out in a day or so in the UK but I'm not back to the UK until the end of June so I'll probably end up getting it the same time as you. Haven't seen any prices for the 32GB and 64GB versions in the UK yet...or any release dates.

Buying the S3 is what is confusing me about my tablet purchase. If I do take my laptop, a 7" tablet would be better as it's lighter and more portable, but the samsung has a 4.8" screen so it's maybe better to make the jump to a bigger device for a tablet.
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It's out in a day or so in the UK but I'm not back to the UK until the end of June so I'll probably end up getting it the same time as you. Haven't seen any prices for the 32GB and 64GB versions in the UK yet...or any release dates.

Buying the S3 is what is confusing me about my tablet purchase. If I do take my laptop, a 7" tablet would be better as it's lighter and more portable, but the samsung has a 4.8" screen so it's maybe better to make the jump to a bigger device for a tablet.
Tablet is better than a phone for doing photo editing, watching a movie or anything that makes life easier on a bigger screen. Even a 7" tablet is twice the size of a Galaxy Note. If you end up getting an Android tablet, make sure it has ICS installed, because Honeycomb is the absolute worst OS I have ever used!

You have a lot of options. I just came from England a few months ago and much prefer mobile plans and service providers there, but like most things look at the price in the U.S. and then just change the $ for a £. So around 700 quid for a 16gb S3 would be my guess, non subsidized and unlocked.

Just curious, but where in the UK are you headed. I lived just outside Cambridge, closer to Peterborough.
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Tablet is better than a phone for doing photo editing, watching a movie or anything that makes life easier on a bigger screen. Even a 7" tablet is twice the size of a Galaxy Note. If you end up getting an Android tablet, make sure it has ICS installed, because Honeycomb is the absolute worst OS I have ever used!

You have a lot of options. I just came from England a few months ago and much prefer mobile plans and service providers there, but like most things look at the price in the U.S. and then just change the $ for a £. So around 700 quid for a 16gb S3 would be my guess, non subsidized and unlocked.

Just curious, but where in the UK are you headed. I lived just outside Cambridge, closer to Peterborough.
Its 499 pounds for the 16GB version unlocked. It's not a bad deal. God knows what the 64GB version will cost - I suspect 600-650 at least.

I'm from Central Scotland.
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Its 499 pounds for the 16GB version unlocked. It's not a bad deal. God knows what the 64GB version will cost - I suspect 600-650 at least.

I'm from Central Scotland.
Nice. 500 quid isnt a bad deal. But 16gb really limits what you can put on your tablet. I have the 64gb version and i am at 80% full with apps and vids on the ipad. I have to be much more careful on my 32gb Touchpad, becauese only 16gb is partitioned for Android. For either a phone or tablet, minimum space needed is 32gb, whether you can get that from an sd card or onboard storage. 16gb is just not enogh. I willbe getting the 32gb version and then add my 32gb mini sd card to it. If i need more space ill get a 64gb minim sd card. This is one of the main reasons i love my Samsung phones. Ability to change batteries on the fly and upgrade memory! Nice screens and ics doesn't hurt either!
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I'm hoping the release dates and prices for the 32gb and 64gb versions will be annouced soon. My 32gb iPhone is always full so I constantly have to delete apps etc

I'll probably get a 64gb micro sd card too. Most of the Samsung 7" tabs are only 8gb in size. I imagine that's a problem for some users.
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Well a touch display can’t work like a hardware component like mouse, keyboard etc… Tablets are made for entertainment like watching movies, listening music or viewing pictures or helpful in school or college going students. Well it’s Just A Beginning “Future is just on door step” we have to go and open door for it..
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Well a touch display can’t work like a hardware component like mouse, keyboard etc… Tablets are made for entertainment like watching movies, listening music or viewing pictures or helpful in school or college going students. Well it’s Just A Beginning “Future is just on door step” we have to go and open door for it..
The Asus Transformer tablets come with a great keyboard and have usb slots for plugging in a mouse.
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The Asus Transformer tablets come with a great keyboard and have usb slots for plugging in a mouse.
See here is the problem I face with the Transformer and tabs like it which come with an external KB. If I am going to carry a tab + KB then I might as well carry an ultra thin laptop optimally with an instant-on feature. Why would I carry an extra KB? The second point is that if I was going to reduce the number of devices I carry, the I would.d probably go for a slate....like the Thinkpad X220T, which would not be light as the tab. But then again, I am partial to Think pads.
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See here is the problem I face with the Transformer and tabs like it which come with an external KB. If I am going to carry a tab + KB then I might as well carry an ultra thin laptop optimally with an instant-on feature. Why would I carry an extra KB? The second point is that if I was going to reduce the number of devices I carry, the I would.d probably go for a slate....like the Thinkpad X220T, which would not be light as the tab. But then again, I am partial to Think pads.
They are different devices. The majority of thin laptops don't have touch screens (I own an acer tablet with windows 7 but it has a capacitive screen - it's not practical for games or any other common tablet functions).

I agree with you that there would be no need to carry a second keyboard. Some of the slate devices look great. They're a little expensive but prices should drop within the next year or so.

I do think that for many people who go online, a tablet would be sufficient i.e. people who only boy a computer to use Facebook, shop on amazon and log into their online bank account, would probably be as well getting a tablet than a laptop. Those who type a lot could purchase the asus prime or a good keyboard case.

People who use more applications would be better with a tablet e.g. pc gaming, video editing, photo editing, heavy processing etc. For me personally, I think I still need to take a laptop as whilst it seems possible to work using an android tablet, it would surely make me less productive.

So my own dilemma is whether it's worth me taking a 7" or 10" tablet with me on my travels in addition to my phone and laptop.
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My tablet comes close to replacing my laptop. I surf the web and participate in forums such as this often. I use an Asus Eee Pad Transformer (TF101) with keyboard dock. It is just easier to grab and open and start using than my laptop. The keyboard dock makes data entry almost as good as a full-sized keyboard. It took over a month to get used to the smaller keyboard, but I would say I can type about 80-90% of the speed I type with a full-sized keyboard.

What I cannot do on my tablet is play Dungeons and Dragons Online as there is not Android version for this game. Also, Google Docs suck big time as a spreadsheet. I expect Google Docs or Polaris Office (which comes with the TF101) to be able to handle the simplest spreadsheet well. Boy was it so frustrating to make a spreadsheet. You have to tap on the screen on whichever cell you want to enter data or text. You cannot use the tab or enter keys to advance to the next cell. I got fed up and went back to Excel.

Now, I haven't had a chance to try any other spreadsheet app. I believe there was one on sale earlier this month, but I was busy with other things and I didn't need to do much spreadsheet stuff. I haven't had the opportunity to try any others yet.
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They are different devices. The majority of thin laptops don't have touch screens (I own an acer tablet with windows 7 but it has a capacitive screen - it's not practical for games or any other common tablet functions).

I agree with you that there would be no need to carry a second keyboard. Some of the slate devices look great. They're a little expensive but prices should drop within the next year or so.

I do think that for many people who go online, a tablet would be sufficient i.e. people who only boy a computer to use Facebook, shop on amazon and log into their online bank account, would probably be as well getting a tablet than a laptop. Those who type a lot could purchase the asus prime or a good keyboard case.
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People who use more applications would be better with a tablet e.g. pc gaming, video editing, photo editing, heavy processing etc. For me personally, I think I still need to take a laptop as whilst it seems possible to work using an android tablet, it would surely make me less productive.

So my own dilemma is whether it's worth me taking a 7" or 10" tablet with me on my travels in addition to my phone and laptop.
Personally, I'd go with a 10" tab. I am traveling right now and I am carrying my Acer A500 tab, a X201 think pad and my (low grade) android phone.
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Personally, I'd go with a 10" tab. I am traveling right now and I am carrying my Acer A500 tab, a X201 think pad and my (low grade) android phone.
Good to see someone in the same situation as me. That's one route I might go down as when I'm on a plane or bus my laptop will be in my rucksack anyway. Just to need to figure out which one to buy
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My tablet comes close to replacing my laptop. I surf the web and participate in forums such as this often. I use an Asus Eee Pad Transformer (TF101) with keyboard dock. It is just easier to grab and open and start using than my laptop. The keyboard dock makes data entry almost as good as a full-sized keyboard. It took over a month to get used to the smaller keyboard, but I would say I can type about 80-90% of the speed I type with a full-sized keyboard.

What I cannot do on my tablet is play Dungeons and Dragons Online as there is not Android version for this game. Also, Google Docs suck big time as a spreadsheet. I expect Google Docs or Polaris Office (which comes with the TF101) to be able to handle the simplest spreadsheet well. Boy was it so frustrating to make a spreadsheet. You have to tap on the screen on whichever cell you want to enter data or text. You cannot use the tab or enter keys to advance to the next cell. I got fed up and went back to Excel.

Now, I haven't had a chance to try any other spreadsheet app. I believe there was one on sale earlier this month, but I was busy with other things and I didn't need to do much spreadsheet stuff. I haven't had the opportunity to try any others yet.
The games that are on tablets are fine for me on the road. For spreadsheets I have replaced MS Office with LibreOffice. It's free and with many things is actually better. Not sure of any tablet specific options though.
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Well, I have sort of a different prospective on this. I don't own a tablet or laptop. (I have used my wife's netbook and my work laptop.) I needed something that I could watch movies, create/edit word and excel documents and view PDF's. Could play games and listen to music, all while on the go.

So I went with the Motorola Atrix 4G and the Lapdock accessory. (Although not perfect, it does get the job done.) I stream video's, movies, can play all of my games that's on my phone. Can check emails, facebook, surf the net either using the mobile or Firefox browser. I have replaced my work laptop with my Lapdock without any problems. (I use citrix for work.) I have "Quickoffice Pro" for all my word processing, since it works with Microsoft Office documents.

My Lapdock charges my phone when docked and will last up to 8 hrs. I don't have to transfer any of my files to other devices., since everything is on my phone. (This is so convenient) I have access to my entire phone and all apps. I can even resize the windows as I see fit. I can read books, although some apps are only viewable in portrait mode. I use ES File Explorer to manage all my files.

I can make phone calls, send text, etc. All from my Lapdock. It has an 11.6 inch. Screen and only weighs around 2.6 lbs. One last thing, I still have access to everything rather using the Lapdock or just using my phone.

It has been a blessing for me and has saved me a lot of money not having to buy a tablet, laptop or netbook. Also, I use my mobile data plan and wifi. No extra monthly fees.
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Well, I have sort of a different prospective on this. I don't own a tablet or laptop. (I have used my wife's netbook and my work laptop.) I needed something that I could watch movies, create/edit word and excel documents and view PDF's. Could play games and listen to music, all while on the go.

So I went with the Motorola Atrix 4G and the Lapdock accessory. (Although not perfect, it does get the job done.) I stream video's, movies, can play all of my games that's on my phone. Can check emails, facebook, surf the net either using the mobile or Firefox browser. I have replaced my work laptop with my Lapdock without any problems. (I use citrix for work.) I have "Quickoffice Pro" for all my word processing, since it works with Microsoft Office documents.

My Lapdock charges my phone when docked and will last up to 8 hrs. I don't have to transfer any of my files to other devices., since everything is on my phone. (This is so convenient) I have access to my entire phone and all apps. I can even resize the windows as I see fit. I can read books, although some apps are only viewable in portrait mode. I use ES File Explorer to manage all my files.

I can make phone calls, send text, etc. All from my Lapdock. It has an 11.6 inch. Screen and only weighs around 2.6 lbs. One last thing, I still have access to everything rather using the Lapdock or just using my phone.

It has been a blessing for me and has saved me a lot of money not having to buy a tablet, laptop or netbook. Also, I use my mobile data plan and wifi. No extra monthly fees.
I like the concept of lapdocks etc. I've read articles about how that is what the future will be i.e. everyone will have a powerful phone that is integrated into devices such as lapdocks, televisions etc.

I'm not sure it's practical (for me anyway) to use a phone as my main computer. I'd rather keep them separate. Though, admittedly, I really don't know much about it to be honest. I assume it still uses Android when docked etc.

The one reason I wouldn't want to use this solution is because it doesn't save much room i.e. it would take the same room in my bag from having a portable laptop and a phone. Most things like email and files etc can be synced pretty easily with dropbox etc too. Again, I really don't know much about it though and there are perhaps a lot of benefits I'm not considering. Plus, I'm a bit of a gadget geek - I think that's why I like the concept (even though it's probably not suitable for me just now).
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I was curious about the whole lapdock thing. The Asus padfone but it seems to have a lot of limitations. On cNet the point out that you can't use some aspects of the phone such as whatsapp etc when the phone is docked. Plus the whole thing weights 1.5kg (my 12" laptop is only 1.2kg in comparison). I do like the way this is all heading though.


A phone that worked with a tablet/laptop windows 8 hybrid would be awesome

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Thanks. I'll keep this in mind. I may try it out later this week.

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So I went with the Motorola Atrix 4G and the Lapdock accessory. (Although not perfect, it does get the job done.) I stream video's, movies, can play all of my games that's on my phone. Can check emails, facebook, surf the net either using the mobile or Firefox browser. I have replaced my work laptop with my Lapdock without any problems. (I use citrix for work.) I have "Quickoffice Pro" for all my word processing, since it works with Microsoft Office documents.
The Atrix and laptop dock really caught my interest when it first came out. I had just bought a new phone shortly before this came out, so I did not purchase it. After some thought and some experience with my phone, I feel that this is not the option for me. The reason is that I think the phone needs to be an independent device if you receive a call. I know you can put the call on speaker, but sometimes you want that privacy. Not sure how the Atrix handles it. I know you can answer the call while docked, but I think you have to undock to take the call. Then you wouldn't be able to use the dock if you are working on some file on your phone.

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I like the concept of lapdocks etc. I've read articles about how that is what the future will be i.e. everyone will have a powerful phone that is integrated into devices such as lapdocks, televisions etc.
I prefer the concept of a laptop dock for a tablet. I think it is better to have a phone as one mobile device and then the second device is a tablet. The tablet would dock into a laptop/desktop dock accessory that provides a full-sized keyboard and larger monitor. When you are on the go, you undock your tablet and now have a compact device to take with you.
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Old May 29th, 2012, 07:18 PM   #49 (permalink)
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I prefer the concept of a laptop dock for a tablet. I think it is better to have a phone as one mobile device and then the second device is a tablet. The tablet would dock into a laptop/desktop dock accessory that provides a full-sized keyboard and larger monitor. When you are on the go, you undock your tablet and now have a compact device to take with you.
I agree. The whole concept may change in the future when phones have more processing power. Perhaps you could dock a phone without physically integrating it i.e. it could all be done wirelessly. At the moment it does seem limited.
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Worked well for me! barely ever use my laptop anymore. You get use to using the tablet more often.
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