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Old May 30th, 2012, 11:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Recommendation for non-huge Android phone?

I recently bought my first Android phone - an HTC One X under contract with AT&T. I love everything about it except for its size...I now realize I would rather have a phone with a smaller form factor than the absolute latest-and-greatest, and will probably return it.

Problem is I'm not sure what to get instead. All of the top-tier Android phones available through AT&T are equally gigantic. Switching from AT&T is not an option for me right now, but I would be fine with getting a used and/or unlocked phone on Craigslist (or unlocking one myself, if there were instructions available online to do so).

Can anyone recommend other phones I might like? My criteria are simple:
-As fast as possible
-Not a ton of bloatware, or bloatware that can be removed easily if the phone is rooted
-Will get ICS at some point, if possible

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Hmmm small phones...how about the samsung galaxy note ?
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Maybe xperia mini/mini pro? I dont know how huge it is (never seen in real). Easy to root and should get ICS ("should" cause XPlay ICS was stopped so sony can stop other too)
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Welcome to AF involuted! About the only choice that satisfies all your requirements to some extent is the Nexus S. Anything else that is going to get ICS is a recent release, which means 4.3+ on AT&T.

You might try the Galaxy S II, its not small, but its smaller than the One X. HTC phones are a little wider than Samsung phones of the same screen size, so this with the smaller screen size (4.3 vs. 4.7) could make enough difference for you. Good luck!
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I think there are many phones available which meets your requirements? Why don't you go and choose a phone with 3.2" Screen size.
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Can you define "non-huge"? Give us an upper limit on screen size. 4.5", 4.3", 4.0", 3.7", 3.5", or whatever. Just for reference, the One X is 4.7", the iPhone 4S is 3.5".
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Stuntman: good question! It's hard to say without actually holding the phone in my hand, but I'd guess ~4"? I used to have an IPhone and thought it was the perfect size, but I could go a little bigger than that, probably.

The Nexus S might be good...I do like the idea of having the "pure" Android OS, too. If that still feels too big, I guess I'll start looking at non-ICS phones (which could be OK, as long as they weren't painfully slow).

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If you can find it, for instance on Amazon, the Atrix 4G is a very good phone and is 4" (My personal favorite right now).
You should be able to get the Samsung Captivate Glide still at the AT&T stores, and is a 4" phone with a sliding keyboard.

The Atrix 2 and regular Galaxy SII (International or AT&T) are 4.3", which I'd suggest as the upper limit. They are big phones but not the same huge factor as you hit from 4.5"+

Also in the 4" factor, yet older would be the Samsung Captivate Galaxy S, and I believe the Nexus S.
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Nexus S is a great option as is the Atrix 4G (or 2, but it does not have an unlocked bootloader if that's a concern). Nexus S has a great form factor with it's rounded corners and slightly curved screen.

Another thing is, try to go the entirety of your "return" period. I find a big phone is great even though I have small hands and the period of getting used to it is generally a week or two. I don't make a ton of phone calls so being able to enjoy the screen real estate while browsing or watching videos is fantastic.
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Stuntman: good question! It's hard to say without actually holding the phone in my hand, but I'd guess ~4"? I used to have an IPhone and thought it was the perfect size, but I could go a little bigger than that, probably.

The Nexus S might be good...I do like the idea of having the "pure" Android OS, too. If that still feels too big, I guess I'll start looking at non-ICS phones (which could be OK, as long as they weren't painfully slow).

Thanks for your help everyone.
The Nexus S has a 4" screen and does have pure Android. I don't think you will find anything else as small for current high end Android phones. The Nexus S is also about a year and a half old now. Most, current, high end phones will probably start at 4.3".

What you can do is go to a store and just pick up and hold a bunch of phones. Find one that is the size that you feel is comfortable. Then find out the screen size. After that, you can search for phones with a similar screen size or ask us.
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I would try out the SGS2. I always told myself I never wanted anything bigger then a 4" screen but when I held the SGS2 it felt very comfortable in my hands. As Stuntman said, go down to a store and try out all the phones to see what fits you best.
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i have the Xperia Ray.
It is a 2011 device so not top range but it is 3.2 inch, pretty and has received Android 4.0.3 (next update to 4.0.4 is being rolled out now)
You can disable a lot of the bloatware without rooting.
I think it is quite fast too.
And it is cheap. Here it goes for about 350 which is about half of the real high end devices. My phone travels a lot with me so I'm glad I am not hauling a very expensive piece of hardware around.
And it is sturdy! I am a complete idiot so I drop it all the time and it has survived everything with just a very tiny chip of one corner. Otherwise it is completely scratch and damage free.
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The Xperia Ray is a single core device clocked slower than the One X. It will be a LOT slower and a number of games and apps would be slow and incompatible on it.
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The Xperia Ray is a single core device clocked slower than the One X. It will be a LOT slower and a number of games and apps would be slow and incompatible on it.
"Everybody is a genius, but if you judge a fish by it's ability to climb a tree, it will spend its entire life believing it is stupid." (Albert Einstein)
You're right, but the OP prefers form over latest and greatest And the Ray may not climb any trees but it is a good looking fish and a fast swimmer.
(but I am so new to Android, I am perfectly fine with staying in the water)
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"Everybody is a genius, but if you judge a fish by it's ability to climb a tree, it will spend its entire life believing it is stupid." (Albert Einstein)
I have no idea why you posted this quote. We're judging two fishes here, both Androids, and both do the same things. By that analogy, the One X swims circles around the Ray. The Ray is the equivalent of a goldfish against the One X shark.

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You're right, but the OP prefers form over latest and greatest And the Ray may not climb any trees but it is a good looking fish and a fast swimmer.
(but I am so new to Android, I am perfectly fine with staying in the water)
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Criteria #1: As fast as possible.
That alone puts the Ray out of contention. Galaxy S Advance and Galaxy Blaze 4G, are at 4 inches, while the Galaxy Ace 2, Sony Xperia Sola and HTC One V are at 3.7inches (just a little larger than an iPhone. The body size is practically the same), and all mentioned phones are dual core with better graphics chips.
Not to mention that going from a One X to an Xperia Ray is a HUGE downgrade in experience. Its like you going from your ray to an entry level Android, like a Galaxy Y or LG p500. Its slower and laggier, the display isn't as good, and will look grainy to your eyes when comparing to your older phone. You won't notice it because you haven't used a better phone yet.
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I'm surprised no one has suggested the international HTC One S, it will work on AT&T, and you could easily sell the One X to make up for the cost.

It would basically be the exact same device, but with a smaller screen size. The screen is only 4.3" compared to the One X which is 4.8".

Edit: Never mind, I guess the One S isn't that much smaller.
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I have no idea why you posted this quote. We're judging two fishes here, both Androids, and both do the same things. By that analogy, the One X swims circles around the Ray. The Ray is the equivalent of a goldfish against the One X shark.



Back to the OP's original post:

Criteria #1: As fast as possible.
That alone puts the Ray out of contention. Galaxy S Advance and Galaxy Blaze 4G, are at 4 inches, while the Galaxy Ace 2, Sony Xperia Sola and HTC One V are at 3.7inches (just a little larger than an iPhone. The body size is practically the same), and all mentioned phones are dual core with better graphics chips.
Not to mention that going from a One X to an Xperia Ray is a HUGE downgrade in experience. Its like you going from your ray to an entry level Android, like a Galaxy Y or LG p500. Its slower and laggier, the display isn't as good, and will look grainy to your eyes when comparing to your older phone. You won't notice it because you haven't used a better phone yet.
There is no need to get excited, I was merely trying to be helpful. The OP asked for a small form factor and I was like "*Ding* I got that!"
The Ray is a midrange phone, I am perfectly aware of that. I chose it. (Heck, I passed on the iphone and Galaxy S2 for it.) If that is not what the OP wants he is free to completely ignore me.
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I'm looking for a phone like this myself too, and I have found two more candidates:

Motorola Atrix 4G and LG Optimus 2X. Both 4.0".

How do these compare to the Galaxy S Advanced?
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I'm looking for a phone like this myself too, and I have found two more candidates:

Motorola Atrix 4G and LG Optimus 2X. Both 4.0".

How do these compare to the Galaxy S Advanced?
The Galaxy S advance has a newer faster chipset with a9 cores. The two you mentioned has a8 cores, if I remember correctly.
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But... the Atrix 4G has 1GB RAM, whereas the S Advanced has 786MB. Will this difference be noticeable?

Same question for the Ace 2 which has a 0,8GHz CPU, while the S Advanced has 1,0GHz?
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RAM difference in 768mb and 1GB shouldn't be noticeable, it just says how many things you can do at the same time. But the difference in CPU speed will be noticeable.
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Is it true what I hear that the Galaxy S Advance will probably never get much development because it's only "an upgrade" to the Galaxy S? I'd like to have a phone for which there is some selection in custom ROMs, I see there currently aren't any at all for the S Advance...
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The S Advance is too new to have custom ROMs, and well, its available on limited markets only so it may not get as much attention. You're better of getting one of the more mainstream phones like a Galaxy Nexus if you plan on rooting and getting a custom ROM. You can't get everything you want if you work on a limited budget. You'll have to compromise. Try looking at ROMs for Desire S. But its single core AFAIK.
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If you are happy with a small screen, you obviously don't surf the web or look at you tube, so i suggest you getting a dumb phone and you can have it as small as you like.
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Try the HTC Doubleshot aka: Mytouch 4g Slide. Dual core, 3.7 inch screen, and full qwerty keyboard, plus one of the best cameras on a phone.
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If you are happy with a small screen, you obviously don't surf the web or look at you tube, so i suggest you getting a dumb phone and you can have it as small as you like.
You are the dumb one, I use a 2.8" LG Optimus Me and its still doing ell, Yeah, surfing the web is painful, but other smart stuff (youtube, music, some games)

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If you are happy with a small screen, you obviously don't surf the web or look at you tube, so i suggest you getting a dumb phone and you can have it as small as you like.
I have the Inc 2 with a 4" screen. YouTube and web surfing are not a problem at all.
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If you are happy with a small screen, you obviously don't surf the web or look at you tube, so i suggest you getting a dumb phone and you can have it as small as you like.
Doing everything a smartphone should do on my 3.5" commando screen while swimming or doing whatever the heck I want to
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Have you had a look at the One S? You can also get a One V but don't think the screen is that good on that one. The One S actually benchmarks really quick, has almost the same stuff as the One X but is slightly smaller, may just be small enough to fit more comfortably in the hand without compromising your performance needs.

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