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Yes, I love Google too much! 11 44.00%
No way, I'd rather have an SD Card Slot on my phone. 10 40.00%
Maybe, but Im not sure if I want it without an sd card slot. 5 20.00%
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Old November 11th, 2012, 09:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Someone please start a page of all the people WHO WILL NOT BUY A NEXUS 4 BECAUSE IT LACKS 1 thing, AN SD CARD SLOT. TOGETHER we can START a REVOLUTION. If google gets ENOUGH COMPLAINTS They should consider adding it back. 1-855-836-3987 GOOGLE's # Call and complain.

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Old November 11th, 2012, 09:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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good luck with that, let me know how it goes
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Old November 11th, 2012, 09:57 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well thanks, the idea is to make google see, not everyone has unlimited data...you are eventually capped on your "unlimited data plan" Why use the data streaming from the cloud when you can just play it from your phone? It doesnt take a genius to save things onto an sd card, you format it and bam your good to go.
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lol i was being sarcastic, but, i do agree with everything you say.

basically, and it's been said a thousand times here, google want you to use their cloud services whether you like it or not.

they'll sell enough devices to not care about online petitions and what not though.
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I've learned I don't need an SD slot. I don't have enough media to fill out up. The sole reason I'm not buying the nexus 4 is the lack of LTE. And I am seriously ready for a new phone.
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No, I won't be buying Nexus 4 because it's not available here.
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I'm getting mine this week. I really don't care about an SD. I had a Nexus S, and then a GSII and I never put an SD in my GSII. I did see a whole lot of problems with SD cards on the GSII, and have no desire to deal with that. I'm glad the Nexus phones don't have SD cards.


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What for? It was never meant for the masses anyway. Nexus devices were always meant to be as a developer playground. It's designed to hardware specifications that will behave the best way, and that's without the complication of an SD card.
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I doubt Google will listen unfortunately, but good luck!

I semi agree, the storage options are limiting, 16GB & 32GB would be much better options. LTE isn't a massive issue because it'll be at least a year before I get that in my area anyway.

However, if it has OTG support, that will make the lack of an SD Card sort of moot.
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I want to check how rooting goes. I don't care about Google's services - besides Mail and Play they have nothing I'd use. I'm really reading and researching now since I'm worried my used Nexus S might be headed for problems. I don't want a panic situation when I can read and review first. I could use a phone that opened certain apps much faster, plus the better camera.
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I need more than 16GB. If the N4 has a 32GB option, then I would consider it. Any phone with less than 32GB or the ability to get there (SD card) is a deal breaker for me.
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We will never, ever see another Nexus device with a SD card for several good, legitimate reasons. Everyone needs to accept that, deal with it or buy non-Nexus devices that do have a SD slot.
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I want an SD card slot AND removable battery, the battery being the bigger deal to me. It seems like the Nexus phones are getting more and more iPhone-ish each time. Doesn't this one even have a glass back? Why are the things everybody criticizes when Apple does them suddenly become okay when Google does them? Sorry, I'm not a fanboy for anybody. And I'm not sure you can still consider the Nexus devices as just for developers anymore. With their aggressive pricing they seem to be going after the mainstream market now.
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I need more than 16GB. If the N4 has a 32GB option, then I would consider it. Any phone with less than 32GB or the ability to get there (SD card) is a deal breaker for me.
I probably don't need more than 16GB (it would actually be 12GB after you take into consideration formatting and the fact the 16GB is the total amount of memory on the device), but I'd like the option of having the extra space if needed.

It's all very well saying you can store stuff on the cloud etc, but I only have a 2GB data plan (we're a way behind you guys when it comes to data allowances) so cloud storage and lack of WiFi access points sort of negates that option.
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It already sold out in the US and Europe. Try the play store. People don't care. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Others love the $300 off contract price.
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No doubt it is a good deal for the money.
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As much as I want to support Google with their devices I just can't anymore.

I'm strugglng with the Nexus 7 as it is, constantly removing applications to make way for new ones.

It's annoying.
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I agree that with rhat pricing they obviously want to push this out widely rather than keep it as a dev device. And I'd be in the queue but for the storage.

But don't read too much into "sold out in 30 minutes" (as happened in the UK) unless you know how large the stock was - it could be deliberately low in order to generate "sold out quickly" stories and keep the buzz going (wouldn't be the first time someone's done that).
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I agree that with rhat pricing they obviously want to push this out widely rather than keep it as a dev device. And I'd be in the queue but for the storage.

But don't read too much into "sold out in 30 minutes" (as happened in the UK) unless you know how large the stock was - it could be deliberately low in order to generate "sold out quickly" stories and keep the buzz going (wouldn't be the first time someone's done that).
There are easy ways to check this. Wait until the quarterly financial statements are released. Numbers don't lie.

Either way, people want this phone. Most of us users don't need 64gb internal and 64gb SD card storage. $300 is more important.
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I'd ALWAYS want the option of SD card storage. I use 2 Android phones- Rooted WFS with WC3 ROM and 16Gb SD card for music, photos etc(and calls as the Sony just won't make calls in a few locations despite showing a strong signal. Maybe Virgin UK runs out of capacity in some places at some times) and Xperia U mainly as a phone. If I had to choose one of them it'd be the WFS as it's O/C to 806MHz and quicker in use than the iGHz dual-core Sony.
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The bigger issue for me is the lack of 4G. Just about every smartphone released now as 4G, but Google's flaghsip doesn't. Like are you kidding me Google? When I first read it on Phandroid I thought the author misunderstood something because Google would never do something retrogress like that but sadly they did
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I'm not worried about an SD Card anymore to be honest but only if the storage is enough.

16gb is nowhere near enough, I'm struggling with 32gb when I thought that would be enough.

I don't like Cloud services really so having the storage available is vital for me.
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Look at the mess that is the Verizon Galaxy "Nexus." Until LTE is an open standard, Google will likely not use it in their direct offerings. (I would bet there will be an exact replica though only for Verizon, but NOT a Google experience phone.)

Also, it is HSPA+ capable. In my area, T-Mobile gets 11-12M down, which is as good if not better than Verizon.

Gotta look at the big picture.
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I agree that Hspa+ is good enough, and isn't as draining on batteries. Carriers should have stuck with that IMO.
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I'm in no hurry to see LTE service. HSPA+ is pretty fast and easier on batteries, but there's other reasons carriers want to go to LTE. In VZW and Sprint's case it's got a lot to do with needing badly to get rid of friggin' CDMA. For T-Mobile and AT&T it has largely to do with maximizing usage of their available bandwidth.
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Look at the mess that is the Verizon Galaxy "Nexus." Until LTE is an open standard, Google will likely not use it in their direct offerings. (I would bet there will be an exact replica though only for Verizon, but NOT a Google experience phone.)

Also, it is HSPA+ capable. In my area, T-Mobile gets 11-12M down, which is as good if not better than Verizon.

Gotta look at the big picture.
This is why I am glad it is not LTE. Sprint created the same mess first with the Nexus S 4G (WiMAX, not LTE). Anytime carriers have to get involved it only makes the phone updates slower.

If the Nexus 4 was LTE I would be hesitant to get the phone.
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I must say the addition of Google music is a welcome addition outside the US and I think makes devices with less storage allot more useful.

Just uploaded around 2000 songs last night, cleared a bunch of storage on my Nexus 7, might have some room for some larger applications now.

Should work well, however there are allot of blind spots on the UK for data, it's usually tethered to my Galaxy S3.
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there are good reasons to avoid sd cards

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Google still supports removable storage in Android, but it is leading by example and providing phones (and now a tablet) with one big block of storage that users can use for anything they like -- be it media, documents, or apps. There are a couple of side benefits to this approach as well. The first one is a bit geeky -- it allows the device to use ext file systems instead of a mix of ext and FAT. This is faster and safer -- both for the data on the device and the way it's handled, and access to our own personal data. A journalized file system means fewer file errors, and ext preserves file system permissions so random code can't find your pictures or documents folder.

Another benefit is that the host machine (when your device is connected to a computer) can't muck things up and molest the file system, as it doesn't have block-level access to the files. Instead, a proxy FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) file system is used to mount a psuedo-SD card folder so that your computer can read and write to it via MTP. This means you won't get errors from incorrectly unmounting your phone, and the device still has access to all the data even while plugged into a PC.
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Whats wrong with fat/exfat?

Other than fat not supporting files larger than 4GB I don't see why it's a disadvantage, especially if it's a class 10 or above.
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16GB of onboard storage is manageable, but 32GB is preferred. With 32GB, I can live without an SD slot. But for me, 4G is a must as well as a removable battery. So, I'm not terribly impressed with the 4 overall.
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Other than fat not supporting files larger than 4GB I don't see why it's a disadvantage, especially if it's a class 10 or above.
No journaling, no file ownership or permissions, slow, needs defragging, etc. Should have been retired as a file format long ago.
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No journaling, no file ownership or permissions, slow, needs defragging, etc. Should have been retired as a file format long ago.
Flash drives etc have no moving parts, why would you need to defragment them? It's wouldn't effect performance at all.

Slow? yeah whatever. My sdcard benchmarks a hell of a lot faster than the internal storage.

I couldn't care less about journaling and file ownership.
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Flash drives have no moving parts, why would you need to defragment them? It's wouldn't effect performance at all.

Slow? yeah whatever. My sdcard benchmarks a hell of a lot faster than the internal storage.

I couldn't care less about journaling and file ownership.
File ownership matters now with Multi-User in 4.2.
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Wouldn't it just be easier to limit access to private folders rather than file ownership, which I hate dealing with in windows anyway.
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No, it's nowhere near being that simple.
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No, it's nowhere near being that simple.
Isnt this a mute point anyway as the internal storage is ext so what does it matter?

At the end of the day you get the "benefits" of ext and an sdcard slot for additional storage.

I don't see how this is bad thing.
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Is 16GB of storage THAT expensive? Is it THAT hard to offer a 32GB Nexus 4 version for $399? Crazy!

I've got a 15GB music collection. Larger than average but I know people with much larger. They are mostly 192kbit-256kbit VBR MP3/M4A - good quality. I don't want to burn up my battery and my data plan limit having to stream my music from Google Play when driving!

Then consider, these latest greatest devices are sporting 8MP cameras and 1080P HD Video Recording producing larger and larger filesizes. Where are you going to store that, stream it to "The Cloud" - not on HPSA+, maybe LTE - oops, doesn't have LTE!. Even if it did, video is going to have to go to internal then moved later. Haven't even got into docs (easiest - Google Docs, no problem there), photos, same thing, stream it from the Cloud (a lot slower on HPSA+ than local) but then what if you have a ton of apps? It's just not all going to fit, in some cases not even close!

So you have these relatively inexpensive devices with fantastic latest specs, S4 CPU, wirless charging, yada yada yada. Who the the heck are they targeted at? The gamer with an unlimited data plan than never takes video?

Or is there something else going on here. Something psychological with the Smartphone Generations. Is the Smartphone now more of a status symbol (like a fancy wristwatch was/is) so with the 20 and 30-somethings, most of them can't wait for their 2-yr contract renewal to get the latest phone with the best bragging specs? So the unlocked latest Android phone with the fastest CPU and largest screen with highest PPI and a low cost UNLOCKED is the rage! Look at the new HTC Droid DNA. 16GB, NON-EXPANDABLE!

Will truly unlimited data plans come back into fashion? But at what cost!?! Is the vision from the powers that be that everyone will eventually have a 60mbit LTE connection with unlimited data so most all data (except still maybe HD video) will steam up and down to/from the Cloud on the Fly instead of internal storage?

It's all crazy!
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Is 16GB of storage THAT expensive? Is it THAT hard to offer a 32GB Nexus 4 version for $399? Crazy!

I've got a 15GB music collection. Larger than average but I know people with much larger. They are mostly 192kbit-256kbit VBR MP3/M4A - good quality. I don't want to burn up my battery and my data plan limit having to stream my music from Google Play when driving!

Then consider, these latest greatest devices are sporting 8MP cameras and 1080P HD Video Recording producing larger and larger filesizes. Where are you going to store that, stream it to "The Cloud" - not on HPSA+, maybe LTE - oops, doesn't have LTE!. Even if it did, video is going to have to go to internal then moved later. Haven't even got into docs (easiest - Google Docs, no problem there), photos, same thing, stream it from the Cloud (a lot slower on HPSA+ than local) but then what if you have a ton of apps? It's just not all going to fit, in some cases not even close!

So you have these relatively inexpensive devices with fantastic latest specs, S4 CPU, wirless charging, yada yada yada. Who the the heck are they targeted at? The gamer with an unlimited data plan than never takes video?

Or is there something else going on here. Something psychological with the Smartphone Generations. Is the Smartphone now more of a status symbol (like a fancy wristwatch was/is) so with the 20 and 30-somethings, most of them can't wait for their 2-yr contract renewal to get the latest phone with the best bragging specs? So the unlocked latest Android phone with the fastest CPU and largest screen with highest PPI and a low cost UNLOCKED is the rage! Look at the new HTC Droid DNA. 16GB, NON-EXPANDABLE!

Will truly unlimited data plans come back into fashion? But at what cost!?! Is the vision from the powers that be that everyone will eventually have a 60mbit LTE connection with unlimited data so most all data (except still maybe HD video) will steam up and down to/from the Cloud on the Fly instead of internal storage?

It's all crazy!
Not the gamer, have you seen the size of some of these new games?
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Is 16GB of storage THAT expensive? Is it THAT hard to offer a 32GB Nexus 4 version for $399? Crazy!
It's not crazy when Apple does it though, is it?

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I've got a 15GB music collection. Larger than average but I know people with much larger. They are mostly 192kbit-256kbit VBR MP3/M4A - good quality. I don't want to burn up my battery and my data plan limit having to stream my music from Google Play when driving!

Then consider, these latest greatest devices are sporting 8MP cameras and 1080P HD Video Recording producing larger and larger filesizes. Where are you going to store that, stream it to "The Cloud" - not on HPSA+, maybe LTE - oops, doesn't have LTE!. Even if it did, video is going to have to go to internal then moved later. Haven't even got into docs (easiest - Google Docs, no problem there), photos, same thing, stream it from the Cloud (a lot slower on HPSA+ than local) but then what if you have a ton of apps? It's just not all going to fit, in some cases not even close!

So you have these relatively inexpensive devices with fantastic latest specs, S4 CPU, wirless charging, yada yada yada. Who the the heck are they targeted at? The gamer with an unlimited data plan than never takes video?
Designed by Google employees for Google employees?

Put it this way, I don't think they'll be in a hurry to start selling Nexus devices here in China.
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