Actually the latest rumours seem quite conservative: quad core higher resolution spec bump of recent Moto flagships. Not as radical as some of the early claims.
Having said that, even if true we're only seeing the coarse-grained info so far - the details of design, features and software make the difference between "one of the pack" and "outstanding". And I'd be more than happy with something that gave me up to date cpu power, expandable storage, solid battery life, a full range of radio interfaces, an easily unlockable bootloader, top build quality while not being larger than 2012 phones.
(Yeah, a couple of those aren't from the leak, but one is already a feature of recent Motos and the other is very high on my wishlist ).
This is THE phone that would keep me with Verizon!
My "upgrade" is up around Mayish which is probably the soonest it would launch (but who knows). Can't imagine VZW would allow sale through the Play Store, but who knows. Crazier things have happened, like the um, Galaxy Nexus.
Here's a link to all the tagged X articles on Droid-Life for those who want to get up to date on the rumors: X Phone – Droid Life
BTW, Chief, you may be getting a little ahead of yourself by proclaiming it the "Epic" thread.
But, let's hope it gets there.
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Actually the latest rumours seem quite conservative: quad core higher resolution spec bump of recent Moto flagships. Not as radical as some of the early claims.
Having said that, even if true we're only seeing the coarse-grained info so far - the details of design, features and software make the difference between "one of the pack" and "outstanding". And I'd be more than happy with something that gave me up to date cpu power, expandable storage, solid battery life, a full range of radio interfaces, an easily unlockable bootloader, top build quality while not being larger than 2012 phones.
(Yeah, a couple of those aren't from the leak, but one is already a feature of recent Motos and the other is very high on my wishlist ).
I think this thread could be of use to share what information has been leaked.
I am suspecting that Google will have a little tighter control on the information than what we saw in the past.
I think that when this thing has a real name you will see the specifics on its attributes. Quad core seems to be one for sure.
But are you sure the name won't be "X"? We've seen a Droid X and a Xoom from Moto, so they do like the letter. As do Google with the Nexus logo. It's more likely than the next HTC actually being called the M7.
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I'm ready for an uncompromising phone...anyone heard of anything like that?
More importantly... do you buy that this will be THAT phone?
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As an aside, if the X does launch with KLP/5.0, what do you folks want to see in it most?
Honestly, I'm very happy with the huge overhaul ICS and now JB have brought. Duarte is doing a fantastic job.
The lock screen widgets are not my favorite and honestly I don't even use them. Miss the slide to camera, but I suppose sliding the screen there is fine (and yeah, I can implement the former in the ROM I'm on).
I'd really like to see a LOT more done with Google Now. It has so much potential that doesn't seem to be there yet.
If Motorola can roll out an unlockable pure android phone to Verizon, a là the GNex, but with decent radios, it will be worthy of another megathread, for sure. Add in a MAXX version, and even I will be drooling.
Although anyone else think X-MAXX sounds a little too close to ex-lax to avoid unfortunate comparisons?
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If Motorola can roll out an unlockable pure android phone to Verizon, a là the GNex, but with decent radios, it will be worthy of another megathread, for sure. Add in a MAXX version, and even I will be drooling.
With a slide keyboard. LOL. I really want a keyboard.
This is what I look so forward to! I learn so much listening to you guys. Upgrade is in August, so I know you will have it all figured out for me by then.
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Re: The Epic Motorola X Pre-Release Thread
Welcome back GrandmaDroid! Great to see you again! Yeah, my new "full retail" phone fund is coming along nicely... by the time this phone actually comes out on Verizon it'll be ready. Because I just can't lose my unlimited data... not until they just seize it from me. Hopefully this phone will be a worthy successor to Ginny
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To have a battery that is 3,000 mAh or larger, this phone would most likely be 9 - 10 mm thick. I'm fine with that... but would not be fine with a small battery.
Well Moto typically have used a carbon-fibre effect on their kevlar backs, so that's not much of a stretch.
TBH I don't think you can fit that big a battery into something that thin (without making it larger in other directions). But a bit of taper at the edges to help the hand fitting wouldn't be a bad plan.
I'm hoping less bezel than the RAZR HD, but doubt they'll take it quite that far. And TBH I hope the 4.8" rumour is correct rather than 5", with minimal bezel to keep the handset size down.
But yeah, that's a sharp looking concept. Won't be real, but I like the thinking - to do what Moto want this thing has to be attention-grabbing, so I hope they are thinking about this sort of thing.
I want a 3000+mah battery,camera that's better than the nexus 4, the same quad core processor, with internal option to run 2 cores, Kevlar body, internal on/off mode like the blackberrys, and that no look screen goes off function(gs3),...and absolutely no wireless charging, waste of $$ and phone space..true 4.3-4.7" screen with a swipe to view onscreen buttons,...possible?
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I want a 3000+mah battery,camera that's better than the nexus 4, the same quad core processor, with internal option to run 2 cores, Kevlar body, internal on/off mode like the blackberrys, and that no look screen goes off function(gs3),...and absolutely no wireless charging, waste of $$ and phone space..true 4.3-4.7" screen with a swipe to view onscreen buttons,...possible?
Don't get me wrong...I'd take an S4 pro processor. But this is the processor I'd like to see in it:
I fear the availability will be slightly late, but we can dream ("sampling" means they could already have them in prototypes, and if Moto were given sufficient specs to do design work a few months back.....).
I'm just worried that if there's no compromises, the msrp is going to be like $1000 or so. That will make it extra hard to swallow buying at full retail.
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Would be cool
I fear the availability will be slightly late, but we can dream ("sampling" means they could already have them in prototypes, and if Moto were given sufficient specs to do design work a few months back.....).
That processor is "rumored" to be in the Galaxy S4. All depends on when these devices are coming out. Google I/O is in May so...let the speculation continue LOL! My second pick would be the NVidia Tegra 4 but I'm not holding my breath on Moto using that chipset.
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I'm just worried that if there's no compromises, the msrp is going to be like $1000 or so. That will make it extra hard to swallow buying at full retail.
Depends on the "purpose" of this phone. If the Nexus 4 is a reference device not really designed to sell in the tens or hundreds millions arean...what is the purpose of the X Phone? My guess would be that this phone is intended to SELL...massively. Profit margins can shrink if you think you can move an ass ton of them.
What is the problem with most new Android phones? They are not relevant for an entire year let alone two years. "Just enough" better than last month's big phone is not enough to have stellar sales figures for more than a quarter. They need something that can last as a top tiered phone for at least a year. Just my opinion but Moto has made so many wrong turns that this is all probably just wishful thinking
I'm just worried that if there's no compromises, the msrp is going to be like $1000 or so. That will make it extra hard to swallow buying at full retail.
Assuming you are keeping Unlimited Data then lol...I know I could buy it at the discount with an extension on my current plan, but I mean it could still be like 400$ with that...*gulp*
Personally my money would be on the S4 using a Exynos 5 chipset.
Thing with keeping a phone "relevant" is that it's probably more perception than anything else. The S3 is more than half a year old and I'll bet it's still the best-selling "flagship" device, and in terms of its capabilities I can't see why it wouldn't be good for another 18 months. TBH I think we might be reaching the point where screens and processing power, at least on the high end devices, are good enough to meet anyone's needs for at least 2 years, which is why I like Moto's talk about factors like durability and battery life being priorities for this device. Plus "durable" implies that they don't see it as "disposable", which is good
The other thing that's needed for extended relevance is long-term software support. The Nexus is the poster child here, and I'd love it if they went that way. But for this purpose it doesn't have to be part of the Nexus programme, but IMO if they want this device to be what they claim they do need to make a public commitment that it will get long-term software support and make good on that.
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I think you are right on Hadron. Marketing is something that Samsung has invested in and it has paid off. Companies like HTC don't have the same kinds of funds to work with and that is a big reason phones stay relevant.
Another reason phones stay relevant is if you have the SAME phone on multiple carriers. The HTC One X did not come to T-Mobile or Verizon at all...and a variant came to Sprint but it is a "different" phone with a "different" name. Sure, VZW got the DNA, but how effective is a push for the HTC "One" line when only two out of four major carriers ever even had a phone with any kind of "One" branding (and they were totally different phones)? Then you have all of the late VX, XV, or whatever the heck they are called and OMG is the only initials you remember because...it's nuts! What a cluster! Everyone knows what a Galaxy S3 is because it is on every major carrier and many regional carriers.
Now Moto and Google...they could make a HUGE marketing campaign for this phone. And they have the power to push the carriers in the direction they want. Verizon is usually the exception to this but Moto and VZW have a good working relationship it would seem and if they get all the carriers on-board with this one device with no variants, and then just put on a marketing blitz...they really can't lose.
But you have to make the specs good...and good enough to stay relevant in "our" eyes. Average consumers may not know enough to care...but they usually know enough to ask someone who does. In my opinion, you have to win over the phone geeks. All the press events...that's who is being addressed...the phone geeks. Average consumers are not thinking about upcoming press announcements for HTC, Motorola, or Samsung...They do not know what Google I/O is...nor do they care about any of that. They may hear a story on the news about it but it will probably be forgotten quickly.
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Depends on the "purpose" of this phone. If the Nexus 4 is a reference device not really designed to sell in the tens or hundreds millions arean...what is the purpose of the X Phone? My guess would be that this phone is intended to SELL...massively. Profit margins can shrink if you think you can move an ass ton of them.
What is the problem with most new Android phones? They are not relevant for an entire year let alone two years. "Just enough" better than last month's big phone is not enough to have stellar sales figures for more than a quarter. They need something that can last as a top tiered phone for at least a year. Just my opinion but Moto has made so many wrong turns that this is all probably just wishful thinking
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Assuming you are keeping Unlimited Data then lol...I know I could buy it at the discount with an extension on my current plan, but I mean it could still be like 400$ with that...*gulp*
Yep, plan on keeping unlimited and want to keep my freedom. I have fallen out of favor of the subsidy system and would be a hypocrite if I took one . If the bootloader is unlocked and we'll be able to flash radio files, then I hope that it has some hspa+ radios in it as well. This way if Verizon annoys me too much, I can walk and take it to one of the GSM carriers.
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Yep, plan on keeping unlimited and want to keep my freedom. I have fallen out of favor of the subsidy system and would be a hypocrite if I took one . If the bootloader is unlocked and we'll be able to flash radio files, then I hope that it has some hspa+ radios in it as well. This way if Verizon annoys me too much, I can walk and take it to one of the GSM carriers.
If the bootloader is not unlockable...you can shut this thread down. No epic thread...it will be an epic failure!
If the bootloader is not unlockable...you can shut this thread down. No epic thread...it will be an epic failure!
Indeed. Verizon has had dev versions of their most recent Moto phones, so I imagine this would as well. But the majority of people who get it would get the subsidized version and therefore not have access to it.
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