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Old February 10th, 2013, 03:43 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys i am trying to figure out how to spot fake note 2's. I recently saw a note 2 that didnt have the s-note feature on it already. The phone has all the other features and is running 4.1.1, but no multi window as well. It is the international version gt-n7100. I just want to know if this is a fake or not, since it does not have the s-note.. It also has a regular pen instead of the s pen that has a button on it as well. Other then that, the phone has everthing else from charger, box, owners manual, headphones, etc. It is also already unlocked. Any help would be great!

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That's almost definitely a fake one IMO. The whole point of the Note is to have the S-Pen feature.
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You can spot a fake based on the logo. Duplicates, especially chinese, have either removed the (example) Samsung logo, or modified it. Dunno if there are some that use the original logo too.
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They're very easy to spot. Usually they will be thicker than the original, be missing the logo, and there will be details in the device design that are off. Even the best fakes are easily distinguishable from the real deal to the trained eye.

If you're having trouble I recommend finding a high resolution image of the real Note 2 and comparing any phone you want to buy against it. Honestly, more often than not, that's all it takes. Once you learn the design you will be able to tell a fake from a mile away.
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Often you can tell from the specs - it's common for the cpu or screen resolution to be wrong, and sometimes they are dual SIM when the original is not. Depends on how much effort they are putting in to making a forgery that would fool someone knowledgeable rather than just something that will look real from a distance. But you do get a few that seem to be trying quite hard, though as 2 Phonez says there are generally differences if you look in detail (looking under the back cover can help here).

What you say about the pen and software says fake to me too. Also if a deal seems too good to be true, that's time to be alert.
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okay that what i was thinking. This got to be a ver good fake, it has all the logos that the real phone has from the samsung on the top screen, the 2 batteries both look exactly like the ones that are i see the person unboxing on youtube. I am at lost, either this is just the best fake note 2 or somehow the s note and drawing got deleted during the unlocking?
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Is the phone rooted? If everything else looks legit it could just be a software screwup from the previous owner.

Maybe post some photos here so we can judge, including of all the details in the about screen in the settings.
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it possibly is? ill take some pics right now and post it.
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here are the pics Thanks guys for the help!

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Would be good if someone who knows the Note 2 were to comment, but I have my doubts about the software info. I tried googling that baseband version and got this XDA thread about rooting Mediatek clone phones, and this one about a Note 2 clone. The "build number" gives me links to off-brand tablets.

I usually figure that baseband versions will correspond to official ones (ROMs, kernel builds might not if the device is rooted, but I don't think anyone homebrews basebands), which is why I checked this.

So while as I says it would be good to hear from someone familiar with the Note 2, I think it looks fake to me. Good fake, but fake.
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yeah i figured it was a fake, but a really good fake haha. Is there anyway to get s note on this note? would rooting it all over again be able to get me a softeware close to the actual note 2?
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It's fake. A very good fake, but a fake nonetheless.

Compare your images to this for example:



The device you have looks too skinny, the bezel on the sides and the top is too thick, and from the photos at least I'd guess the screen is too small too.

The most damning evidence is the baseband though. Google that baseband version. It's only ever found in fake phones.

The box looks legit though.
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okay thanks guys for the help! really appreciate it! Is there anyway i can get the right software that runs on the note 2?
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Read this.

There's not much we can do for these dodgy phones. The S Pen probably doesn't work on it, which is why that bit was omitted from the OS.
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I don't know. Software support for fake phones is often limited, and the S-Note stuff is Samsung-specific (probably requires a lot of other Samsung stuff to be present, rather than just being an app you can install in any Android build).
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hmm okay thanks for the help! whats something like this worth then?
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Very little. The only way you'd get any real money for it is by fooling someone into thinking it's real. If you're honest about what it is the most you'll get is about $150.
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hmm yeah i rather be honest.. I hate to have someone take this although this note is a really good fake. Only way you would know if is you look at the s pen fuction thats not there thats how i figured when i first saw it. Thanks again guys!
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The S-Pen is hardware specific. The Notes have a special WACOM made digitizer allowing the use of the S-Pen.
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That's a Chinese fake OK. It's got almost the same baseband as my cheapo 5inch dual SIM phone. And "CST" in the kernel string, China Standard Time.

My cheapo Kliton I806 dual SIM 5 inch looks almost identical to the Galaxy Note 2. However unlike yours it doesn't have any Samsung branding on it. Does it have GPS and a compass? Because usually the fakes don't have these. It's certainly not going to have an AMOLED screen either, and you'll probably find that the camera is rather poor as well.

The other thing that gives away counterfeits from the real thing. Is that fakes are not sold by reputable sellers or carriers, certainly not in the US. Did you buy it on Ebay?
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New, probably around $80-$100 USD. That's usually what they sell for here. Second hand, probably nothing.
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Ive seen a few clones out there, some better than others. Each has its own model name, number and specs. Most I've seen are Dual SIM 3g GSM and WCDMA.

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The 4.7 inch "Note III" Dual core is more of an SG3 clone


The 5.5 inch Star S7180 Dual core is closer


The best of the bunch is the 5.8 inch Cubot A6589 Quad Core


Take note that none of these has the samsung logo.
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But you do find clones that do have the logo. This thread has one example, but we've seen others. It's less common, but not unheard of.
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Support/update issues aside, what's the build quality like on these?
Not that I'd want one, just curious how they compare to the real thing.
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Support/update issues aside, what's the build quality like on these?
Not that I'd want one, just curious how they compare to the real thing.
Build quality depends on the model and manufacturer. For instance, most i've seen use a variation of Media Tek's Dual Core 1GHz CPUs, like the MTK6577. The Cubot A6589 has a Media Tek MTK6589 Quad Core 1.2GHz CPU but is about $100 more than the rest.

Theres a website that is in english that sells many of them and has specs on each if you are curious and would like to compare.
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Also, there are many youtube hands on comparisons. Just search for "Fake SG3" or "Fake Note 2".
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Is it just me but I took one look at the squiffy home button and then the setting page which was titled 'about phone' instead of 'about device' and thought fake lol. I didn't even look at builds etc.
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When I buy one of these, I do have the advantage of been able to try them hands-on in a local store, where I can pick-over them looking for a good one. And if there are any problems, as there often are with these things, I can just take it back.

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Is it not an option to just install antutu benchmark, if you get above 17000 is probably real.
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Hi guys.im having a problem too.my uncle bought me note 2 in middle east and it uses regular size sim card.im from philippines.and here,note 2 use micro sim.was the regular sim note 2 a fake?thanks guys.appreciate your immediate response!
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Hi squarepants, and welcome to AF

The Note II uses a micro SIM, so unfortunately it sounds likely that it's a fake.

However, there was this one odd story: Samsung makes a Galaxy Note II with both micro and regular SIM card slots official in China. So if it has both regular and micro slots it's perhaps possible you got one of those?

Can you give us any other information about it? Software info is good - baseband is something they don't normally fake, for example.
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hello, I bought a new samsung galaxy note 2 last month, it is the original one, when I look at my phone and yours and I compare it, mine is very different from yours, and if you dont have the s-note so it is not the real one, and you must have the original s-pen not any pen and inserted in the phone, if it is really like the photos go and take refund and buy it from somewhere else

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The Note II uses a micro SIM, so unfortunately it sounds likely that it's a fake.

However, there was this one odd story: Samsung makes a Galaxy Note II with both micro and regular SIM card slots official in China. So if it has both regular and micro slots it's perhaps possible you got one of those?

Can you give us any other information about it? Software info is good - baseband is something they don't normally fake, for example.
I may be wrong but I believe the Philippines uses a US type of network and so they have micro sim phones like in the states. Europe and abroad may still use regular sim as they have a different network and so the international note 2 might have a regular size sim. I know that theres a model # difference.

I agree with Hadron, more info is needed.
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European Note 2s use micro-SIM.

If you are on ATT or T-Mobile it's the same technology as Europe (apart from T-Mobile's AWS), just different frequency bands.
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Well a few days ago I got an ad of Samsung galaxy Note 2 for Rs.12000(Indian currency). The ad was from UK. Here are the details of the the company :.
ELECTRONICS ENTERPRISE LTD
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Company No. 08113787
Mobile No: +447031919618.
If anybody from UK Please tell is this address or the company fake or genuine and as I've seen many tips from this forum about how to spot a fake note 2. Thanks for that.
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Is it just me but I took one look at...the setting page which was titled 'about phone' instead of 'about device' and thought fake
I have a real Note 2. (I think)
It says 'about phone'. Not 'about device'.
Has the "real" Note stylus and benchmarks above the HTC One.
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Just to give a little FYI, you can install S note if someone has the apk. the apk file can probably be found in many sites online, or someone can send it to someone else. it can also be ripped from the /system/app folder of a rooted device. it's like S Voice--that one is quite easy to port over to just about anything. if i hacked my device's build.prop file enough, i could fool Play Store into allowing me to install anything from S Memo to the AT&T mobile app.
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