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Old August 6th, 2010, 03:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Nokia Reiterates Not Considering Android for Future Handsets

In a question and answer series with Nokia’s Niklas Savander hosted on Twitter, the question of whether or not the manufacturer could be looking towards Android to help their handsets get the upper hand in the smartphone market was again raised. At this point it should come as no surprise what the answer was. A [...]

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I suppose they have got to say this but behind the scenes they must be looking at their options.



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I would say "their loss", but it's our loss too. Nokia make awesome hardware, it's a shame they can't combine it with some Android awesomeness.....

Without Android, Nokia's relevance will contunite to fade. You only have to look at the mistakes Motorola made in the past...
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Without Android, Nokia's relevance will contunite to fade. You only have to look at the mistakes Motorola made in the past...
What mistakes did Motorola make?

Nokia's position sounds more like stubbornness than some sort of rational decision. I'd be interested to see their take on the Android system; or even a version of the awesome 5800 phone running Android. But if they're too stupid to do it, they can go to hell, and keep adding more facelifts to the ancient Symbian.
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or even a version of the awesome 5800 phone running Android.
What, with a resistive screen? *shudders*
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maybe they like resistive screens because in Finland it is very cold and need to wear gloves all the time? i don't know!
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I'd be interested to see their take on the Android system; or even a version of the awesome 5800 phone running Android. But if they're too stupid to do it, they can go to hell, and keep adding more facelifts to the ancient Symbian.
Nokia is dropping Symbian and going to adopt their own linux based OS called Meego for next gen high end handsets, while Symbian^3 will power mid range phones. One thing to to consider here is Nokia still leads the smartphone market by a huge margin compared to other competitors, so IMO they have the capability and the capacity to bring out a new OS and compete head-on with Android and IOS. So don't dismiss them lightly, if they can get it right; then having a different linux based system (instead of Android) can work for their advantage (like IOS did for Apple), because then they have control over both hardware AND software. And if they make it easier to port android apps to meego that IMO could actually be a better option than adopting Android.

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What, with a resistive screen? *shudders*
While capacitive screens are more sensitive, resistive screens have their advantages too. Ability to operate wearing gloves, and the use of a stylus (this is a very important characteristic for character input in most east Asian languages based on Chinese characters)
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because then they have control over both hardware AND software.
No. The Linux Foundation is in charge of Meego, not Nokia. And maemo didn't turn out very well. So why would Meego, which suffers from 'design by committee,' be any better? They have no incentive to meet Nokia's timetables or needs for a competitive OS.
Google, on the other hand, has a plan for Android, the resources and a tight focused group.
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Sorry to hear. So long Nokia, hope there is enough business in the bottom of the market selling cheap disposable phones to keep you in business. Seems you would learn from the mistakes Motorola made in the past. They were once on top too.
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No. The Linux Foundation is in charge of Meego, not Nokia. And maemo didn't turn out very well. So why would Meego, which suffers from 'design by committee,' be any better? They have no incentive to meet Nokia's timetables or needs for a competitive OS.
Google, on the other hand, has a plan for Android, the resources and a tight focused group.

My understanding is that MeeGo is a joint venture between Nokia and Intel, haven't heard anything about the Linux Foundation being involved in it, but I may have missed that part. Besides, if a handset can run MeeGo, it can probably run Android too. I know that the N900 can run 2.1 and I think someone even loaded 2.2 onto it a while back when it first popped up. Their next big phone is going to be running MeeGo, but they haven't announced what CPU it will have, and I'm very curious to see if this will be the first new smartphone out with an Intel Architecture CPU in it. Could be, you never know, the Moorsetown Atom SoC was aimed at this kind of market, and the next version of Atom is supposed to be even better on the power front. Don't be so quick to dismiss Nokia just because they aren't using Android.
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My understanding is that MeeGo is a joint venture between Nokia and Intel, haven't heard anything about the Linux Foundation being involved in it, but I may have missed that part. Besides, if a handset can run MeeGo, it can probably run Android too. I know that the N900 can run 2.1 and I think someone even loaded 2.2 onto it a while back when it first popped up. Their next big phone is going to be running MeeGo, but they haven't announced what CPU it will have, and I'm very curious to see if this will be the first new smartphone out with an Intel Architecture CPU in it. Could be, you never know, the Moorsetown Atom SoC was aimed at this kind of market, and the next version of Atom is supposed to be even better on the power front. Don't be so quick to dismiss Nokia just because they aren't using Android.
Third party ports with no Market, etc don't really count.
I would like to see some competition to Android but show us something that can deliver. Give us something like WebOS...Meego will be another Maemo if it ever does come through.
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Nokia: meego no likey android. Yousa people ganna die!
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Nokia lost me to Android a few months back, there is very little new in Symbian in its current form, I do wish them luck with Meego but I still think Android is the platform of the future.
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What mistakes did Motorola make?
The same that Microsoft made. Resting on their laurels at the top of their game, not adapting to the changing market, losing a huge hunk of the user base.

Think about what phones people wanted from Motorola after the Razor came out up until the Droid came out. I can't think of any
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they needed an OS and WinMo just couldn't cut it. That affected many companies.
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